January General CBB Discussion Thread (Non-BE)

[aceboon]

In the NCAA Tournament better guard play usually prevails.

their guards are averaging nearly 50ppg game collectively and Cadeau is running the show, we'll see how those numbers play out in conf play once competition gets harder but they're not lacking there either

 

[bendm]

Would love if zags go down to Seattle.

 

[RuffRuff]

It might be a game worth exploring the possibility of starting Stewart or Ross just for the sake of matching up with their size.

I wanna see how Morez and Yaxel manage chasing our shooters around screens for 40 minutes though, we might be able to out shoot them in a one game sample to pull off the upset.

I think you have to test that to start - let them chase, slow it down, make them execute. If they bully us, have to bring in the bigger 3s.

Not sure why anyone is questioning their 3pt% - they're 27th in the country. Way better than us.

 

[superjohn]

My problem is outscoring them while having to play Stewart and Ross more minutes will be very difficult. Our best chance at beating them is Solo/Mullins/AK going nuclear from deep imo.

I'm not worried about them. We can play any style and we're extremely difficult to prepare for.

 

[superjohn]

It might be a game worth exploring the possibility of starting Stewart or Ross just for the sake of matching up with their size.

I wanna see how Morez and Yaxel manage chasing our shooters around screens for 40 minutes though, we might be able to out shoot them in a one game sample to pull off the upset.

I don't think it will be an upset if we play them and we're the ones who dictate how the games are played.

 

[HuskyHoosier]

It’ll be rocky 4. UConn/balboa vs Drago/UM. They’ll give us their best punch- we’ll hang around when others folded and they’ll be so shook when we punch back.

 

[RuffRuff]

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It’ll be rocky 4. UConn/balboa vs Drago/UM. They’ll give us their best punch- we’ll hang around when others folded and they’ll be so shook when we punch back.

It's gonna be interesting to see how they perform in a close game this year after all these blowouts.

They're KP is closing in on 40 and it's barely January - nuts.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I don't think it will be an upset if we play them and we're the ones who dictate how the games are played.

It’s an upset in the sense that they’ll be heavily favored and they’re analytically the greatest team of all time right now. Whether you think a fully healthy UConn would’ve been at their level is up for discussion, but the numbers are the numbers.

 

[thekollieman]

What a silly post. At least say it.

Nebrasketball:

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[superjohn]

Nebrasketball:

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[HooperScooper]

Would love if zags go down to Seattle.

Gonzaga was a 24.5 point favorite. Down 44-35 at the under 16 minute timeout in the 2nd half. I'm sure I just jinxed it and Gonzaga will win going away. 😀

 

[thekollieman]

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To be clear, I wasn’t insulting Nebraska. I was just saying the quiet part out loud from RuffRuff’s post (and I just think the exciting whites meme is funny). That’s the “it” that HooperScooper told him to just say.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

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It's gonna be interesting to see how they perform in a close game this year after all these blowouts.

They're KP is closing in on 40 and it's barely January - nuts.

If their KP keeps going up through conference play, it either means they are the absolute best CBB team of all time, or that the B10 is an absolute crap conference and MSU, Purdue, Nebraska, Illinois, etc are a bunch of frauds.

KP is not something that keeps accruing throughout the season…

 

[RuffRuff]

If their KP keeps going up through conference play, it either means they are the absolute best CBB team of all time, or that the B10 is an absolute crap conference and MSU, Purdue, Nebraska, Illinois, etc are a bunch of frauds.

KP is not something that keeps accruing throughout the season…

Based on what I've seen in past years, the really good teams move on a pretty consistent level northward through the final. Are you sure?

 

[aceboon]

Seattle up 11 @ the under 12 timeout. Whenever it seems like Gonzaga is about to go on a run to take control Seattle responds with timely buckets, still feel they should be up more with the point blank misses they've had at the rim and missed wide open 3s.

 

[thekollieman]

Based on what I've seen in past years, the really good teams move on a pretty consistent level northward through the final. Are you sure?

Isn’t it just the difference between offensive and defensive rating?

 

[JustbrewitMan]

Based on what I've seen in past years, the really good teams move on a pretty consistent level northward through the final. Are you sure?

KP NetRtg is just the moving average difference between AdjOffensive and AdjDefense. Of course, with all the special sauce adjustments for pace, strength of opponent, etc.

In the sense that the best teams can constantly improve their AdjOffense/AdjDef throughout the year , yea they could make it better.

But you’d think with having to play some quality KP ranked teams, they are going to have close games, which will have some offsetting effects on their currently bloated NetRtg.

It’s why Duke’s NetRtg was so high last year. The ACC sucked and they boatraced a ton of crap teams the whole year.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Gonzaga in deep trouble, down 10 with under 8 left.

 

[HooperScooper]

Can Michigan State turn the ball over any more than they have? This 2nd half has been a disaster.

 

[superjohn]

To be clear, I wasn’t insulting Nebraska. I was just saying the quiet part out loud from RuffRuff’s post (and I just think the exciting whites meme is funny). That’s the “it” that HooperScooper told him to just say.

 

[caw]

Eliot Cadeau can shoot 3s confidently. Damn. He couldn't shoot for shiiiit at North Carolina.

Dusty May was on a podcast (F68) talking about how they went back to finding where he was hitting shots (in high school/AAU/UNC) and working on getting him looks there.

Or another way, Hubert Davis wasn't getting him good looks based on where he was actually making them in high school and college.

 

[UCFan1513]

Gonzaga is fraudulent

I’ll be interested to see Michigan play M State, Nebraska, and Duke. They’re definitely good, but feel a bit like Duke last year who padded metrics killing bad teams

 

[JustbrewitMan]

Dusty May was on a podcast (F68) talking about how they went back to finding where he was hitting shots (in high school/AAU/UNC) and working on getting him looks there.

Or another way, Hubert Davis wasn't getting him good looks based on where he was actually making them in high school and college.

Coaching 101. How bad is Davis and his staff?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The officiating in the last few minutes of Seattle/Gonzaga has been pretty bad in both directions. A Seattle player just went up, got blocked, and landed on the ground with the ball never leaving his hand, and it was a play-on. How is that possible? Either it was a jump ball or travel. No call is not one of the options.

 

[navery12]

Based on what I've seen in past years, the really good teams move on a pretty consistent level northward through the final. Are you sure?

They do not, Auburn was on a historic pace and had the highest KenPom ever at this time last year. They ended up with a normal top KenPom efficiency rating

 

[HooperScooper]

Louisville goes down at Stanford 80-76. Road conference games are always tough. Well unless it's at BC.

 

[RuffRuff]

Gonzaga is fraudulent

I’ll be interested to see Michigan play M State, Nebraska, and Duke. They’re definitely good, but feel a bit like Duke last year who padded metrics killing bad teams

The ACC last year was WAY worse than the teams UM is mauling. The ACC was putrid last year.

Louisville goes down at Stanford 80-76. Road conference games are always tough. Well unless it's at BC.

No Mikel Brown. Another hurt freshmen. Not sure I really consider Ville much of a threat this year - way too guard heavy.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

KP NetRtg is just the moving average difference between AdjOffensive and AdjDefense. Of course, with all the special sauce adjustments for pace, strength of opponent, etc.

In the sense that the best teams can constantly improve their AdjOffense/AdjDef throughout the year , yea they could make it better.

But you’d think with having to play some quality KP ranked teams, they are going to have close games, which will have some offsetting effects on their currently bloated NetRtg.

It’s why Duke’s NetRtg was so high last year. The ACC sucked and they boatraced a ton of crap teams the whole year.

Also, it’s how Gonzaga is able to have such gaudy KP NetRtg year after year (even when they are a good team, their KP rates them even better. This was absolutely the case last year and will likely happen again this year). They play a ton of tomato cans like Pepperidge Farm U once they hit WCC schedule.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Gonzaga's offense is not nearly as efficient as past Gonzaga teams. A lot of crowding, a lot of Gonzaga players stepping in front of teammates drives, a lot of not seeing the open shooter on the 3 line.

 

[aceboon]

Seattle sputtering to the finish line, terrible 3 point shot by their PG just now