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James Wiseman ruled ineligible

browndog319 said:
Does he HAVE $11,500????
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Larrier and Adams came up with the money to reimburse ( the NCAA) for their trip to Ga two years earlier and were reinstated prior to the 2018 AAC tourney.

I’m not actually sure paying the NCAA sounds like a bribe.
 
huskymedic said:


>>The NCAA’s response was actually somewhat insightful, even by their covert standards. The NCAA’s eligibility and enforcement arms are branded as the bad cops, but they pride themselves on cooperating with schools to give them the best information whether or not to play players for varying issues. The NCAA made it clear that they warned Memphis by saying in a statement: “The University of Memphis was notified that James Wiseman is likely ineligible. The university chose to play him, and ultimately is responsible for ensuring its student-athletes are eligible to play.”

What would the repercussions be? Check out the potential penalties below, and it’s curious that Memphis would take a risk to play Wiseman against lowly UIC for penalties that range from forfeited games to potentially having to sit out the postseason. The tough question for Rudd here is why you’d risk the postseason for the rest of your current players if Wiseman is, indeed, deemed ineligible.

“If you play a kid under a temporary injunction, and it’s later found to not be permanent, these are the risks you run institutionally,” Brown said.

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I think the NCAA needs to revisit HOW they enforce their policies and what their policies are. Many are antiquated and don’t reflect many of the realities of the lives of a student athlete (they provide unpaid labor for schools and deserve to be paid and many scrape to subsist while in dirty programs, kids are living well and it’s obvious rules are being broken).

That said, by playing Wiseman, Memphis didn’t just show solidarity with Wiseman and protect his big year and chances at the NBA next year; they hurt everyone else on that team.
Everyone else on that team risks having their records invalidated, risks having no post-season play/experience, etc.
The team doesn’t revolve around Wiseman. I think that’s the part that is BS.
 
Who thinks that Memphis will receive any material additional sanctions?


[crickets]
 
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Bilas seems to have changed his tune a bit.

He’s a twitter warrior and he likes to rile folks up w/ snark but in the end when it’s his credibility front and center for ESPN...
 
The whole thing is a farce. The NCAA is clueless and trying to make this up as they go along. The hypocrisy and double dealing has risen to a level of sheer tragic comedy. Something is going to break and the NCAA will eventually become irrelevant. There’s too much at stake and too much randomness in the way they adjudicate things.
 
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Ok…kid serves his 12 game suspension. The mind boggling thing is the $11,500 donation that he has to make to a charity of his own. What’s wrong with the NCAA?!
 
Let's see... Penny gave the money to his family, and Wiseman didn't know anything about it. But Wiseman, not his family, must make restitution by donating the identical amount to a charity of his own choosing.

Emmert's NCAA - Making rules up on the fly since November, 2010.
 
Kenny11 said:
lol what if he was a decent player but not a star that will be rich very soon? Would he be expected to come up with $11,500? Nothing the NCAA does makes sense in any way.
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Seriously, totally leaving aside Penny/Memphis scummery, the kid and family didn't have the means to move or afford a better developmental path for their son. So now they're just magically going to come up with cash? I'm sure the Wiseman's are fine at this point, but if it's just a regular player....the NCAA man....come on.
 
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RichZ said:
Let's see... Penny gave the money to his family, and Wiseman didn't know anything about it. But Wiseman, not his family, must make restitution by donating the identical amount to a charity of his own choosing.

Emmert's NCAA - Making rules up on the fly since November, 2010.
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This is literally how all of these cases work. You pay back the full amount of the impermissible benefits, otherwise you are a professional basketball player playing in an amateur league. The money goes to charity because the NCAA doesn't fine for profit, it's to make his amateur status whole and keep a level playing field.

Now it's a personal matter between him and his parents. They got the money, they should pay it back. But ultimately it's his responsibility. It's not always fair that when you are a minor your parents can influence your life, but it's the way the world works for everyone. He was living/moving with them. He got the benefit of the money, which again, was only paid for basketball reasons. He has to pay it back.

If he/they can't pay, then he's not eligible to play in the NCAA. He can go play somewhere else with other professionals. He can go take that G-League 100k salary thing, Australia, etc.
 
auror said:
This is literally how all of these cases work. You pay back the full amount of the impermissible benefits, otherwise you are a professional basketball player playing in an amateur league. The money goes to charity because the NCAA doesn't fine for profit, it's to make his amateur status whole and keep a level playing field.

Now it's a personal matter between him and his parents. They got the money, they should pay it back. But ultimately it's his responsibility. It's not always fair that when you are a minor your parents can influence your life, but it's the way the world works for everyone. He was living/moving with them. He got the benefit of the money, which again, was only paid for basketball reasons. He has to pay it back.

If he/they can't pay, then he's not eligible to play in the NCAA. He can go play somewhere else with other professionals. He can go take that G-League 100k salary thing, Australia, etc.
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Any lender would be happy to give him that loan on future earnings. I'm sure he has an insurance policy on top of that.
 
auror said:
This is literally how all of these cases work. You pay back the full amount of the impermissible benefits, otherwise you are a professional basketball player playing in an amateur league. The money goes to charity because the NCAA doesn't fine for profit, it's to make his amateur status whole and keep a level playing field.

Now it's a personal matter between him and his parents. They got the money, they should pay it back. But ultimately it's his responsibility. It's not always fair that when you are a minor your parents can influence your life, but it's the way the world works for everyone. He was living/moving with them. He got the benefit of the money, which again, was only paid for basketball reasons. He has to pay it back.

If he/they can't pay, then he's not eligible to play in the NCAA. He can go play somewhere else with other professionals. He can go take that G-League 100k salary thing, Australia, etc.
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This is a key distinction. It's not a court order that WISEMAN HAS TO PAY THE MONEY. It's simply the NCAA telling him if you want to play NCAA hoops, you have to give it back.
 
Dooooooomed said:
Look for an anonymous booster to leave an envelope of cash in the Wiseman mailbox. #NoPaperTrailsThisTime
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Anything $10k or over is flagged by the IRS so you have to show a money trail for the donation
 
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auror said:
It'll be a FedEx dropoff.
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Thinks that's mail/wire fraud. Best to avoid that exposure. Don't be afraid of the ol' looney toons move. Sometimes it's best to go back to basics.


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intlzncster said:
Thinks that's mail/wire fraud. Best to avoid that exposure. Don't be afraid of the ol' looney toons move. Sometimes it's best to go back to basics.


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Comparing Bugs Bunny to the NCAA is seriously disrespectful to Bugs Bunny. Elmer Fudd on the other hand...........
 
methodology said:
You can't just deposit $10k and make a donation. You have to show where that cash came from
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Who said anything about depositing? Just buy a car in cash or whatever. It's like people forgot how to live below the radar these days.
 
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