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Jalen Adams (Committed to UConn)

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Gurleyman said:
So that his game develops more. Being off the ball and sharing touches, especially in big games or in crunch time, is less effective for his growth than having the ball in his hands making plays (and making mistakes and learning from them).

And yes, I want him to be prepared to steer the ship from day one. Even if he doesn't have to and does an apprenticeship like Kemba and Bazz did. Better to be ready and not needed than needed and not ready.
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I disagree so much, he should learn to play off the ball and share touches because if he is going to excel at the next level and beyond that is exactly what he will be asked to do. You think him dominating the ball and getting every touch helps him as a player? It doesn't, and it is precisely why he is at Brewster and not elsewhere. With talent around him he learns to makes the right choices on the court instead of relying on his own talent.
 
Gurleyman said:
And yes, I want him to be prepared to steer the ship from day one. Even if he doesn't have to and does an apprenticeship like Kemba and Bazz did. Better to be ready and not needed than needed and not ready.
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I've no problem with him filling that junior year Kemba quasi 2 guard role though.
 
otp85 said:
I disagree so much, he should learn to play off the ball and share touches because if he is going to excel at the next level and beyond that is exactly what he will be asked to do. You think him dominating the ball and getting every touch helps him as a player? It doesn't, and it is precisely why he is at Brewster and not elsewhere. With talent around him he learns to makes the right choices on the court instead of relying on his own talent.
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It's fine if he has talent around him - wing talent, post talent, etc. That's ideal. Give him the ball and let him spread it around, make the reads and the important decisions when the game is on the line. I don't want him just chucking all day with a bunch of scrubs averaging 30, but I do want the offense to run through him in high school (I thought it was a great situation with Mitchell and the Georgetown forward - Simon coming in as a top 20 PG is what gives me pause). I think that if we want Adams to eventually become the type of player we hope (i.e. closer to Kemba/Bazz than Tony Robertson - no offense to Tony), then we want him to be an alpha dog, continue to develop those skills, and come in with that mentality. He can learn to play off the ball as a freshman role player when he gets here and has our playbook - that's the easy part. Much easier to have some used to heavy responsibility and reduce their role than to take someone used to being a supplemental piece and putting much more on their plate.

But I think he'll benefit enough from going up against a couple of other top 50 guards in practice for 5-6 months that it doesn't really matter. He'll spend way more time in practice and in workouts than he will in 30 game days. And it may work out that Brewster functions best with Adams as the primary ball handler and Mitchell/Simon playing off the ball, in which case it'll be the best of both worlds.
 
We are a team that will always try to have multiple ball handling guards on the court, we will never put him on the court with 2 wings and 2 bigs; or it will be extremely rare if it does look happen. I think it is wildly beneficial for him to be playing alongside someone like Simon or Mitchell especially because they have games so similar to Purvis and Cassell. I think this is so good for him and us. I have said it before and will stick to it, JA is not a true PG, and neither are any of his Brewster teammates. And that's fine because if you look at how teams win in March it is with as many ball handlers as possible. Versatile guard play, it's what KO does.
 
otp85 said:
We are a team that will always try to have multiple ball handling guards on the court, we will never put him on the court with 2 wings and 2 bigs; or it will be extremely rare if it does look happen. I think it is wildly beneficial for him to be playing alongside someone like Simon or Mitchell especially because they have games so similar to Purvis and Cassell. I think this is so good for him and us. I have said it before and will stick to it, JA is not a true PG, and neither are any of his Brewster teammates. And that's fine because if you look at how teams win in March it is with as many ball handlers as possible. Versatile guard play, it's what KO does.
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He's an undersized 2-guard (natural scorer) with the frame, ball handling, vision, and passing skills of a point guard. That fits the mold of the successful modern NBA point guard. Think Rose, Lillard, Westbrook, Wall, Irving, etc. And of course Shabazz.
 
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I Bleed Blue said:
He's an undersized 2-guard (natural scorer) with the frame, ball handling, vision, and passing skills of a point guard. That fits the mold of the successful modern NBA point guard. Think Rose, Lillard, Westbrook, Wall, Irving, etc. And of course Shabazz.
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Not too worried about what he'll be in the NBA. All that matters is what he'll be in college.

He's definitely got a frame and the musculature to be thicker/stronger than Bazz. Hopefully more like Rose, minus the knees.
 
I Bleed Blue said:
He's an undersized 2-guard (natural scorer) with the frame, ball handling, vision, and passing skills of a point guard. That fits the mold of the successful modern NBA point guard. Think Rose, Lillard, Westbrook, Wall, Irving, etc. And of course Shabazz.
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I don't disagree with you. That is exactly what he is an NBA prospect. I am speaking on him as a college, and more specifically, a UCONN prospect and that's where my evaluation comes from.

Strange though, I don't know when it happened but some time around 7 or 8 years ago no one wanted to be a 2 guard anymore. I think it was after Derrick Rose, but somewhere along the line any 2 that could pass the ball immediately became a ppint guard. D-Wade, AI, guys like that would undoubtedly be pushed to play the 1 in today's game. It was the premier position after Jordan and now it's almost an after thought. Always amazed to watch the game evolve.
 
Why is Jalen doing a pg year in the first place? Why wouldn't he just enroll at UConn if he's graduated high school and we have the scholarships?
 
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I'm guessing Mitchell wants to be a point guard and that's why we didn't recruit him that seriously, kid is a stud.
 
stars schmars - UConn FB had a bunch of 2 star recruits that are presently playing in the NFL and there are a bunch of 5 star recruits that are now presently hanging on street corners - its whats inside and how coaching and mentorship molds the young individual.
 
Bonehead said:
stars schmars - UConn FB had a bunch of 2 star recruits that are presently playing in the NFL and there are a bunch of 5 star recruits that are now presently hanging on street corners - its whats inside and how coaching and mentorship molds the young individual.
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It's true what you said but football and bball recruiting is totally different. Bball your less likely to have a kid come out of nowhere. 2star football players turning into stars is more likely. Congrats to Jalen ,he deserved the 5 star rating .
 
Bonehead said:
stars schmars - UConn FB had a bunch of 2 star recruits that are presently playing in the NFL and there are a bunch of 5 star recruits that are now presently hanging on street corners - its whats inside and how coaching and mentorship molds the young individual.
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That may be true, but you have a hell of a better chance of making the pros or being successful in college as a 5 star as opposed to a 2 star.
 
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johnhuskies95 said:
That may be true, but you have a hell of a better chance of making the pros or being successful in college as a 5 star as opposed to a 2 star.
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so its about making the pro's? You are right that more 5 stars make pros than 2 - but its about UConn BB - no? And a 5 star rating doesnt guarentee anything.
Here is the link to the top 2009 recruits - there a MANY 5 stars that are nowhere - so stars schmars.
Couple of names on the list:

John Henson #5
Keith Gallon #9
Kenny Boynton #12
Dante Taylor #14
Renardo Sidney#16
Wally Judge#18
Royce White#19
Alex Oriahki#20
I think I missed a few - thats like 50%
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-1642/0
 
Bonehead said:
stars schmars - UConn FB had a bunch of 2 star recruits that are presently playing in the NFL and there are a bunch of 5 star recruits that are now presently hanging on street corners - its whats inside and how coaching and mentorship molds the young individual.
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I hear you and 5* vs 4* distinction in BB can be not much at all.

However BBis a much different sport, easier to evaluate therefore arguably more accurate evaluations, only 10 vs 22 playing, fewer surprises. Kids can't go straight out of HS > the league...they wouldn't survive (physically) need time to mature.

Doubt you'll see many 2* in NBA if that's what you're saying.
 
Catsailor said:
I hear you and 5* vs 4* distinction in BB can be not much at all.

However BBis a much different sport, easier to evaluate therefore arguably more accurate evaluations, only 10 vs 22 playing, fewer surprises. Kids can't go straight out of HS > the league...they wouldn't survive (physically) need time to mature.

Doubt you'll see many 2* in NBA if that's what you're saying.
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I guess I am saying stars dont matter when it comes down to it - many 5 stars do nothing.
it is about your talent but its whats inside and how coaching and mentorship molds the young individual.
#25 in 2009 was Milton Jennings - Serious inside/outside scoring threat. Remember him? Me neither
#48 Kwahi Leonard - athletic forward who can contribut in many ways 4 star -remember him? Me too!!!
 
Bonehead said:
I guess I am saying stars dont matter when it comes down to it - many 5 stars do nothing.
it is about your talent but its whats inside and how coaching and mentorship molds the young individual.
#25 in 2009 was Milton Jennings - Serious inside/outside scoring threat. Remember him? Me neither
#48 Kwahi Leonard - athletic forward who can contribut in many ways 4 star -remember him? Me too!!!
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You're talking about differences among the top 100 kids in a class. That's one thing. Realistically, there is no meaningful difference between the 25th ranked kid and the 49th.

But if your "stars schmars" theory and your analogy to UConn football is intended to convey the argument that there's no real difference between a 5 star basketball recruit and a 2 star kid, you're going to have a very difficult time supporting it with any competent evidence, because that's just not remotely true.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
You're talking about differences among the top 100 kids in a class. That's one thing. Realistically, there is no meaningful difference between the 25th ranked kid and the 49th.

But if your "stars schmars" theory and your analogy to UConn football is intended to convey the argument that there's no real difference between a 5 star basketball recruit and a 2 star kid, you're going to have a very difficult time supporting it with any competent evidence, because that's just not remotely true.
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agreed there is a real difference between 2 vs 5 - ill stick with stars schmars...
 
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Bonehead said:
so its about making the pro's? You are right that more 5 stars make pros than 2 - but its about UConn BB - no? And a 5 star rating doesnt guarentee anything.
Here is the link to the top 2009 recruits - there a MANY 5 stars that are nowhere - so stars schmars.
Couple of names on the list:

John Henson #5
Keith Gallon #9
Kenny Boynton #12
Dante Taylor #14
Renardo Sidney#16
Wally Judge#18
Royce White#19
Alex Oriahki#20
I think I missed a few - thats like 50%
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-1642/0
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They all must be on street corners now, huh?
 
Bonehead said:
so its about making the pro's? You are right that more 5 stars make pros than 2 - but its about UConn BB - no? And a 5 star rating doesnt guarentee anything.
Here is the link to the top 2009 recruits - there a MANY 5 stars that are nowhere - so stars schmars.
Couple of names on the list:

John Henson #5
Keith Gallon #9
Kenny Boynton #12
Dante Taylor #14
Renardo Sidney#16
Wally Judge#18
Royce White#19
Alex Oriahki#20
I think I missed a few - thats like 50%
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-1642/0
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First off, Henson and Boynton were very good players. Royce was damn near great at times, do you not remember what he did to UConn in 2012? Oriakhi was inconsistent but played a key role on a national championship team.

And honestly what do you expect the results to look like if you showed a sampling of 3 star players? You're right, 5 stars aren't guarantees, but they're much closer to being guarantees than any other star rating.
 
This isn't football - a 5 star player means you can come into your respected school and contribute a good amount. Whether they make it in the pros is on their hands, not the colleges.
 
CTBasketball said:
This isn't football - a 5 star player means you can come into your respected school and contribute a good amount. Whether they make it in the pros is on their hands, not the colleges.
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not always -

Dante Taylor
Renardo Sidney
Keith Gallon

We can agree to disagree.

I am glad Jalen committed to us but I am NOT into stars. The bump could be due to his improvement of basketball skills or could be the school he committed to, among other factors. Again, congrats to him on choosing a great university and getting a full ride - cant wait to see him be part of ten toes in.

If he committed to Yale last month I am not sure he would have received a bump -

Ill stop here - Stars Schmars.
 
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