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HuskyHawk said:
I think it's really hard for Kolek to get assists if you stop the other 4 guys from scoring. I honestly think you might want to play off him and focus on shutting down everyone else.
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So, your theory is, if nobody Kolek passes to is able to score, it will be really hard for him to get assists?
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Sort of. He does more damage as a passer than scorer. Let him score, limit his passing. He scored 17 tonight, well above his average, and his team lost by 15. I think I was right.
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"I think it's really hard for Kolek to get assists if you stop the other 4 guys from scoring." What's the alternative way? How do assists work?
 
SwampYankee said:
"I think it's really hard for Kolek to get assists if you stop the other 4 guys from scoring." What's the alternative way? How do assists work?
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You’re attempting to criticize me by quoting me and illustrating how my suggested approach was (a) correct and (bj embraced by Hurley and staff as well?
 
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HuskyHawk said:
You’re attempting to criticize me by quoting me and illustrating how my suggested approach was (a) correct and (bj embraced by Hurley and staff as well?
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Fair enough, so I'll type slowly. I am a) not "attempting" a criticism; b) I am indeed criticizing you for posting a truism that it is hard to record an assist if the other four players on the floor are unable to score; c) this has nothing to do with Hurley; and d) I'm not sure you know how assists work.
 
alphasigko said:
Kolek is a really good player who reminds me of John Stockton
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In some respects.

Good ball handler and distributor, and good shooter. Overall, Stockton was clearly a better player.

But, Stockton played very good defense as I recall. I don't think the same could be said for Kolek.
 
Improviser said:
In some respects.

Good ball handler and distributor, and good shooter. Overall, Stockton was clearly a better player.

But, Stockton played very good defense as I recall. I don't think the same could be said for Kolek.
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LOL at people comparing him to an NBA hall of fame top 5 PG in history.
 
SwampYankee said:
"I think it's really hard for Kolek to get assists if you stop the other 4 guys from scoring." What's the alternative way? How do assists work?
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????

They gave him the space to pass, and took away options from the players he was passing to. An alternative would be, for example, trying to suffocate him and stop the assist on his end.
 
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krinklecut said:
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They gave him the space to pass, and took away options from the players he was passing to. An alternative would be, for example, trying to suffocate him and stop the assist on his end.
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I'm at a bit of a loss with you guys. The OP said, "he can't get assists if his teammates don't score." Brilliant analysis.
 
AJ No one will care about you in the league without a mid range jumper.
You won the last 2 games for us with your defense.
 
If there is such a thing as drafting a player for a task specific thing like stopping the opposing team in a tied game in the last few minutes of the game, or cooling the hot hand of an off the rails shooter, maybe AJ could play in the "League."

A 15th guy on the bench for a time-specific or task-specific role.

Just speculating. I don't know of anyone in the NBA now who fits that description.
 
YearoftheHusky said:
You could even hear Hurley say that when they had him mic’d up. He said “don’t be upset if Kolek scores something wild at the rim, we check everyone else.”
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I thought that according to the boneyard Hurley couldn’t game plan lol. Their plan for Marquette last night was amazing and Jackson (and the others who drew the assignment) did an amazing job taking him away.

I actually really liked how after they got the big lead they moved Jackson onto one of their shooters and put someone else’s on Kolek. Really good in game adjustment.
 
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elmcityboy said:
prophetic post. kolek was their top scorer last night, while prosper, jones, and ighodaro combined for 11 on 3-12.
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You can't stop good players totally (usually), so you take away their best weapon. We took away Kolek's best weapon--his passing. That's excellent game-planning. Whoever had the scout last night deserves a bonus; that was well done.
 
husky429 said:
You can't stop good players totally (usually), so you take away their best weapon. We took away Kolek's best weapon--his passing. That's excellent game-planning. Whoever had the scout last night deserves a bonus; that was well done.
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pj said:
The games he scores a lot are the games they lose. Maybe you should let him score, and stop the other guys?
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Luckily @pj did the scouting report
 
Idk why this thread is about Andres nba prospects now. We know he’s coming back, let’s just enjoy the ride.
 
husky429 said:
You can't stop good players totally (usually), so you take away their best weapon. We took away Kolek's best weapon--his passing. That's excellent game-planning. Whoever had the scout last night deserves a bonus; that was well done.
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Believe it was Luke Murray, I think Raftery said something about it during the 2nd half
 
HuskyHawk said:
LOL at people comparing him to an NBA hall of fame top 5 PG in history.
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I always roll my eyes at these types of comments. Someone makes a comparison of styles and, like clockwork, you can count on someone to chime in with "how can you compare him with [fill in all time great]?" Yeah, nobody's saying he's as good as John Stockton.
 
navery12 said:
Believe it was Luke Murray, I think Raftery said something about it during the 2nd half
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Raftery was a trooper last night.

When they started the broadcast it sounded like his voice was already toasted. Made it through somehow but his throat definitely deserved to enjoy the post-game libations.
 
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Kolek is Marcus Williams without as good a supporting cast. Better?
 
Excalibur said:
I always roll my eyes at these types of comments. Someone makes a comparison of styles and, like clockwork, you can count on someone to chime in with "how can you compare him with [fill in all time great]?" Yeah, nobody's saying he's as good as John Stockton.
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Ok, then I'd say the style comment isn't really a good one either. Stockton was quicker and a much better ball handler, defender and scorer at Gonzaga. I don't know why we always have these comps anyway. He's himself, that should be enough.
 
husky429 said:
I pinky promise the last thing front offices are worried about is his lack of a mid-range jumper.
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I mean, yes, except what it says about his shooting ability more generally.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Ok, then I'd say the style comment isn't really a good one either. Stockton was quicker and a much better ball handler, defender and scorer at Gonzaga. I don't know why we always have these comps anyway. He's himself, that should be enough.
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Fair enough, and probably accurate. Stockton was smaller and quicker. If we want to make style comparisons, Kolek is what Doug Gottlieb could have been with a jump shot.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Raftery was a trooper last night.

When they started the broadcast it sounded like his voice was already toasted. Made it through somehow but his throat definitely deserved to enjoy the post-game libations.
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Saw him at Ted’s one night. Cheers-ed with him. Great night
 
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