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HuskyBandDad said:
Ok maybe moronic is a little strong but like most posters have said - it is not the time for Calhoun to step down after just winning the NC. There is no one better to get us out of this mess then Calhoun. By the way - who thinks the NCAA has been fair in any of this over the last 2 years ?
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No, it is not to strong. It may not be strong enough.

It's not time to step down when you're a Top 25 RPI team a year after a title and 3 years after a Final Four.

By that logic, in 2009, Coach K should have committed sepuku.
 
Calhoun is still one of the top 5 coaches in the country. While Kemba was instrumental to last year's NC, JC totally out-coached opponents in many games including Pitt in the BET and the NC finals.

Completely disagree with the Calhoun is bigger than the program and can stepdown when he chooses sentiments. I believe it's this type of attitude that led to all our off-the-court issues in the past few years - no one had the guts to confront JC.
 
Nate Miles.

I said it then and I say it now: Nate Miles was Moby Dick to Jim Calhoun's Ahab.

That being said, were JC to step down (and at this point in time I still believe it is his decision) this would be the best time for him to do so. He finishes this season (hopefully) and hands off the reins to Ollie with reduced pressure (assuming no dance card next year). The hardest thing to do is be the man that replaces The Man but a years buffer would really help Ollie do so, IMO.

Right now, if JC wants to stay, he stays but I also believe there may come the day when it is no longer JC's decision.
 
Robertelamin said:
Um the future isn't that bright without Calhoun moron. Two final fours and a championship in three years.
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Then Calhoun didn't really build UCONN into a major program. Just a presonal fiefdom. When he does retire, UCONN should simply look to joining the CAA or maybe the MAAC or the NEC. And certainly no need to spend millions on a practice center. Since UCONN can't/won't survive the retirement of Calhoun, won't be able to recruit a highly qualified replacement and certainly won't return to the Top 25 never mind the top 10, we might as well save that money. Maybe to refurbish the Field House.

You guys are simply unbelievable. UCONN is not Jim Calhoun any more. There are opportunities to land high profile coaches, or guys with big time upsides, (personally, If Shaka Smart would come, I'd personally ask Calhoun to step down after this season. Guy reminds me of Jim Calhoun in his Northeastern days), precisely because UCONN is UCONN. It is a national brand. People know UCONN knows how to do what needs to be done to win games, and championships.
 
The Funster said:
Nate Miles.

I said it then and I say it now: Nate Miles was Moby Dick to Jim Calhoun's Ahab.

That being said, were JC to step down (and at this point in time I still believe it is his decision) this would be the best time for him to do so. He finishes this season (hopefully) and hands off the reins to Ollie with reduced pressure (assuming no dance card next year). The hardest thing to do is be the man that replaces The Man but a years buffer would really help Ollie do so, IMO.

Right now, if JC wants to stay, he stays but I also believe there may come the day when it is no longer JC's decision.
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This is right on. New President. New AD. Niether one has any real allegiance to Calhoun, despite what they may say publicly. And you have to believe that President Herbst is ticked that she is in a position of begging the NCAA for a waiver when slimeborg programs like Memphis, and anything touched by Calipari, actually met the requirements. By the way, I would be shocked if Ollie lands the head coaching job after Calhoun, unless it is in effect an "interim appointment" for a year or two to get UCONN past all the NCAA sanctions and post seasons bans and so forth, at which point, assuming he has the modest success I suspect he'll have, he can be replaced by a big name guy who will be brought in to "restore" the program.
 
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Prezidint said:
Bet you 10 bucks I am a bigger free speech proponent than are you.
That said, this is a private message board, and private organizations/groups have an absolute right to restrict any speech they want. The NAACP should not have to listen to racist garbage, and the KKK should not have to listen to reason.

Oh. And a message board created and run for the purpose of group enjoyment of UConn basketball should be able to and can put any restrictions on speech that they want.
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bet YOU 10 bucks my free speech is bigger than yours...
 
Two large components of JC's success are his will to win and his toughness. All the"Calhoun Guys" now coaching the team are over achievers who's success was determined by hard work and buying into the system. Ollie is a great example for the kids and a super nice guy as a recruiter recruiter but I'm not sure he has the toughness and will to make the "Calhoun system " work. Is he a big man's coach or a shooting mechanics coach? He didn't show that in his playing career. I think JC is a once in a lifetime tough Irishman that's irreplaceable in this day and age. When he leaves I think were gonna have to look for a different kind of Head coach.
 
freescooter said:
This is right on. New President. New AD. Niether one has any real allegiance to Calhoun, despite what they may say publicly. And you have to believe that President Herbst is ticked that she is in a position of begging the NCAA for a waiver when slimeborg programs like Memphis, and anything touched by Calipari, actually met the requirements. By the way, I would be shocked if Ollie lands the head coaching job after Calhoun, unless it is in effect an "interim appointment" for a year or two to get UCONN past all the NCAA sanctions and post seasons bans and so forth, at which point, assuming he has the modest success I suspect he'll have, he can be replaced by a big name guy who will be brought in to "restore" the program.
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Not that I necessarily disagree with you, in that it could happen that way.

My question is, who supports Ollie for coach? If Calhoun does (as has been rumored), do the NBA guys? Do the other coaches ( Blaney, etc.)? Do the current players? How serious is that support? How about donors?

If Blaney, Calhoun, Ray Allen, etc. give the AD/President a call in support of Ollie, that is a pretty large push. For that matter, it's possible Ollie could get support from NBA guys (coaches) not UConn guys. I'm just speculating of course.
 
Im in no way saying that I want Calhoun to step down but it would be nice to see what Kevin Ollie can do. I mean its not that far off in the future that we all have to become fans of Uconn without Calhoun. Simply put, what is the point of letting Blaney, who is older than Calhoun, coach? George Blaney is in no way part of Uconn basketball's future. Hes shown that at best we will be .500 with him running the show. No upside to Blaney. Plenty of potential upside with Ollie. And at least we would get a clearer picture of how capable he would be as Calhoun's successor.
 
RabidHusky said:
Two large components of JC's success are his will to win and his toughness. All the"Calhoun Guys" now coaching the team are over achievers who's success was determined by hard work and buying into the system. Ollie is a great example for the kids and a super nice guy as a recruiter recruiter but I'm not sure he has the toughness and will to make the "Calhoun system " work. Is he a big man's coach or a shooting mechanics coach? He didn't show that in his playing career. I think JC is a once in a lifetime tough Irishman that's irreplaceable in this day and age. When he leaves I think were gonna have to look for a different kind of Head coach.
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Which is exactly what Kevin Ollie is as you pointed out so Im not sure what youre trying to say.
 
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caw said:
Not that I necessarily disagree with you, in that it could happen that way.

My question is, who supports Ollie for coach? If Calhoun does (as has been rumored), do the NBA guys? Do the other coaches ( Blaney, etc.)? Do the current players? How serious is that support? How about donors?

If Blaney, Calhoun, Ray Allen, etc. give the AD/President a call in support of Ollie, that is a pretty large push. For that matter, it's possible Ollie could get support from NBA guys (coaches) not UConn guys. I'm just speculating of course.
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I would assume that most of the NBA guys would support Ollie seeing as he played in the league with most of them, and by all accounts he is respected by all. Im not sure it really matters what Blaney thinks seeing as he is most likely gone when Calhoun leaves. Nobody really knows what to expect of the new AD, so that part is unclear. I personally think Kevin Ollie would make a great head coach, and Im pissed that he wasnt given a shot this year.
 
HuskyFan32 said:
I would assume that most of the NBA guys would support Ollie seeing as he played in the league with most of them, and by all accounts he is respected by all. Im not sure it really matters what Blaney thinks seeing as he is most likely gone when Calhoun leaves. Nobody really knows what to expect of the new AD, so that part is unclear. I personally think Kevin Ollie would make a great head coach, and Im pissed that he wasnt given a shot this year.
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I agree.

As to the Blaney or other assistants, I would consider this like any other job - a peer review. If the head coach is saying he would do a good job, well that's one thing, if his peers are also saying it, it's another. I'm not saying Blaney alone would get anyone a job, but it just adds more weight to Ollie's cause if Blaney supports him taking over as well.
 
caw said:
I agree.

As to the Blaney or other assistants, I would consider this like any other job - a peer review. If the head coach is saying he would do a good job, well that's one thing, if his peers are also saying it, it's another. I'm not saying Blaney alone would get anyone a job, but it just adds more weight to Ollie's cause if Blaney supports him taking over as well.
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caw said:
I agree.

As to the Blaney or other assistants, I would consider this like any other job - a peer review. If the head coach is saying he would do a good job, well that's one thing, if his peers are also saying it, it's another. I'm not saying Blaney alone would get anyone a job, but it just adds more weight to Ollie's cause if Blaney supports him taking over as well.
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True. Good point. I would assume our assistants would also back Ollie but based solely on the fact that nobody seems to have a bad thing to say about him. All of this makes the current situation all the more frustrating. We would at least have some idea of how he is at coming up with a gameplan and also as an in game coach. He seems to be a good recruiter and nobody ever knows how effective somebody is going to be at running a program until you let them do it. I really wish we gave him a shot this year. Who knows what wouldve happened but we couldn't really be in a worse spot than we are now
 
HuskyFan32 said:
Im in no way saying that I want Calhoun to step down but it would be nice to see what Kevin Ollie can do. I mean its not that far off in the future that we all have to become fans of Uconn without Calhoun. Simply put, what is the point of letting Blaney, who is older than Calhoun, coach? George Blaney is in no way part of Uconn basketball's future. Hes shown that at best we will be .500 with him running the show. No upside to Blaney. Plenty of potential upside with Ollie. And at least we would get a clearer picture of how capable he would be as Calhoun's successor.
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Just bought a new Jaguar. My Nephew has had his permit for 2 months. I'm going to let him drive that baby to school every day. Up until now, he's always driven his mother's 1987 Aerostar, with her sitting next to him, but he was real good at the bumper cars at lake Compounce, so I'm sure he'll be fine...
 
I said it was time when we lost in the NIT to Jackson State in 1993. I'm glad I was an idiot and nobody listened to me.
 
You guys are so brutal. a person comes on the site to post his feelings about a situation and he gets bashed in so many ways. Some people just have no class and its all about them and how they feel. Then someone has the right to insult his name, what is wrong with some people.
I agree with you Henry. Has he earned the right to coach until he's 90, YES. But I don't want to see him turn into a Paterno and have many years of mediocrity. Just my point and feelings
 
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freescooter said:
Just bought a new Jaguar. My Nephew has had his permit for 2 months. I'm going to let him drive that baby to school every day. Up until now, he's always driven his mother's 1987 Aerostar, with her sitting next to him, but he was real good at the bumper cars at lake Compounce, so I'm sure he'll be fine...
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That makes no sense. Blaney is the Aerostar and Ollie would be the Jag. Nice try tho.
 
william shea said:
You guys are so brutal. a person comes on the site to post his feelings about a situation and he gets bashed in so many ways. Some people just have no class and its all about them and how they feel. Then someone has the right to insult his name, what is wrong with some people.
I agree with you Henry. Has he earned the right to coach until he's 90, YES. But I don't want to see him turn into a Paterno and have many years of mediocrity. Just my point and feelings
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Thanks for defending me. You missed my comeback to Drewdog85. I told him he must be mad at his parents for naming him Drewdog85. He gave me a like and acknowledged that point. He was a good sport about it. Interestingly, I laid off making any more comments and have noticed that some people see my point. I meant no disrespect to Coach Calhoun but these are realities that all programs need to face at some point.
 
HuskyFan32 said:
I would assume that most of the NBA guys would support Ollie seeing as he played in the league with most of them, and by all accounts he is respected by all. Im not sure it really matters what Blaney thinks seeing as he is most likely gone when Calhoun leaves. Nobody really knows what to expect of the new AD, so that part is unclear. I personally think Kevin Ollie would make a great head coach, and Im pissed that he wasnt given a shot this year.
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Kevin Ollie isnt ready to be a head coach of a big program like UCONN. We should be trying to lure Brad Stevens or at least Shaka Smart if we can after Calhoun retires. Ollie looks as lost on the bench as Drummond does on free throws. Brad Stevens is the guy I would go after because if he is a miracle workers by leading a school and a team like Butler full of the most mediocre of players to back to back finals than imagine what he can do at UCONN.
 
huskymagic said:
Kevin Ollie isnt ready to be a head coach of a big program like UCONN. We should be trying to lure Brad Stevens or at least Shaka Smart if we can after Calhoun retires. Ollie looks as lost on the bench as Drummond does on free throws. Brad Stevens is the guy I would go after because if he is a miracle workers by leading a school and a team like Butler full of the most mediocre of players to back to back finals than imagine what he can do at UCONN.
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I respect the opinion that Ollie may not be ready. The truth of the matter is that none of us actually know for sure.

But what possible support can you have for saying "Ollie looks as lost on the bench as Drummond does on free throws." What in the world are you talking about?
 
HuskyBballFan said:
I respect the opinion that Ollie may not be ready. The truth of the matter is that none of us actually know for sure.

But what possible support can you have for saying "Ollie looks as lost on the bench as Drummond does on free throws." What in the world are you talking about?
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Hey don't be so harsh, keep in mind that Huskymagic has a good eye for talent and a very well informed opinion. For example he made the point a few posts ago that we should be going after 2 of the top recruits in the country, and when they come to UConn we'll win another championship in 2 years. These types of posters dont grow on trees, and we should be both proud and humbled that he chooses to share his insights with us.
 
freescooter said:
Just bought a new Jaguar. My Nephew has had his permit for 2 months. I'm going to let him drive that baby to school every day. Up until now, he's always driven his mother's 1987 Aerostar, with her sitting next to him, but he was real good at the bumper cars at lake Compounce, so I'm sure he'll be fine...
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I get where you are going with this but your nephew may darn well be ready to drive that Jaguar. If you want to continue down this path:

Who do you want driving your classic Shelby Mustang (manual transmission)? One of the guys with experience only driving a new Ford (automatic) around? Or the guy that learned to drive and has taken driving lessons from the person who built the Shelby? One is new to manual transmission and one is new to driving solo. I take the second guy.
 
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HuskyFan32 said:
That makes no sense. Blaney is the Aerostar and Ollie would be the Jag. Nice try tho.
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Except that nobody is talking about making Blaney the next head coach. Guess you missed my point...
 
Matt (Chicago) said:
Hey don't be so harsh, keep in mind that Huskymagic has a good eye for talent and a very well informed opinion. For example he made the point a few posts ago that we should be going after 2 of the top recruits in the country, and when they come to UConn we'll win another championship in 2 years. These types of posters dont grow on trees, and we should be both proud and humbled that he chooses to share his insights with us.
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lol this was a well thought out post. I like it, and I dont really care if we get Nerlens I just want us to somehow get Devonta because he is going to be good.
 
huskymagic said:
lol this was a well thought out post. I like it, and I dont really care if we get Nerlens I just want us to somehow get Devonta because he is going to be good.
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thanks for the compliment. this leads us back to our original discussion of perception vs reality, and the reality is that we're highly unlikely to get either one of these guys. trust me i'd be just as excited as you if they signed (although i'd rather have Nerlens), i just think its a long long long shot.
 
huskymagic said:
lol this was a well thought out post. I like it, and I dont really care if we get Nerlens I just want us to somehow get Devonta because he is going to be good.
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Daniels baby! Lookin' confident out there, breakin that zone down....
 
Pardon me. i thoestion.ught you meant it was time to take a cr@p - which I did. Power of suggest.
 
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