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Is UCONN Football positioning for independence?

I don't get this idea that because we are losing is the ONLY reason our brand is taking a hit and people aren't showing up. Wake up. We went 26-8 in the AAC in 2014 (which was actually good that year) and still ONLY got a 7 seed. If we went 26-8 in the BE we would have been a 4 or a 5. The Big East is grandfathered into the power conference status for basketball. It means that their schools will automatically be ranked and seeded higher just because of the conference name. It would take at least 10-15 years for the AAC to raise its stature like the BE has.
 
My take on the basketball ratings for SNY, our publicizing it and the smoke about the Big East is to drive up our bargaining position within the AAC and ESPN. We are different than our conference mates in the AAC, we need to maximize our strengths monetarily.

We have doubled back down on football with the hire of Randy. We can't go to a lower G5 and we can't go independent for football. UMASS brought back Mark Whipple and he has had more success than anyone there, but not being in a conference is a killer for them.
 
hardcorehusky said:
The women's program is break even at best. They have a smaller gate and higher expenses due to coaches salaries. Yes, they are on tv more, but the dollars except for the SNY package are minimal at best.

Basketball is not the gas. I wish it was, but it is all about football.
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Yes it is. I think you're wrong, the womens program has made a profit for most of the last 17 years, some years more than others.

UConn data shows football, two basketball programs made profit
 
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shizzle787 said:
Someone posted on CSNBBS the numbers and showed that MBB made a profit, WBB took about a $2 million loss, and football lost $6-7 million. .
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I don't believe the women's program lost $2 mil last year. Do you have a link? Maybe they paid for Disco's buyout? Lol. The women's games commentators have been saying for years that they always make a profit, and are the only women's program that consistently makes a profit.
 
huskyrob1 said:
I don't believe the women's program lost $2 mil last year. Do you have a link? Maybe they paid for Disco's buyout? Lol. The women's games commentators have been saying for years that they always make a profit, and are the only women's program that consistently makes a profit.
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Rothstein: UConn to Look at Another League After Season
Poster's name is stugray2. He got information from Department of Education.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Yes it is. I think you're wrong, the womens program has made a profit for most of the last 17 years, some years more than others.
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huskyrob1 said:
I don't believe the women's program lost $2 mil last year. Do you have a link? Maybe they paid for Disco's buyout? Lol. The women's games commentators have been saying for years that they always make a profit, and are the only women's program that consistently makes a profit.
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CBS Money Watch from April of last year. The financial impact of championship basketball

>>Data that UConn submitted to the U.S. Department of Education shows that for the 2014-2015 academic year, the school incurred $6.7 million in expenses for its women's basketball team while earning $4 million in revenue. <<
 
huskymedic said:
CBS Money Watch from April of last year. The financial impact of championship basketball

>>Data that UConn submitted to the U.S. Department of Education shows that for the 2014-2015 academic year, the school incurred $6.7 million in expenses for its women's basketball team while earning $4 million in revenue. <<
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It's about time you showed up. I just read it myself. I'm shocked, had been hearing for years that they made a profit. I guess it was only two or three years that they were touting. I was flat wrong on that one.
 
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Marty Jackson said:
Welcome back Randy. Forgot to mention, we're moving our football to the MAC.
Go Get'em!!!

Not seeing it.
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Independent. We can get an independent schedule. 6 P5 the first six weeks, NMSU, FCS, UMass, Army, BYU, BC.
 
shizzle787 said:
Independent. We can get an independent schedule. 6 P5 the first six weeks, NMSU, FCS, UMass, Army, BYU, BC.
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because people keep saying independent would be a tough rode, then I assume it must be.

I think Uconn is angling for something, anything to keep its name on the radar. I think we can all agree, Uconn's take in the current AAC deal is undervalued.

But the new AAC deal is around the corner, and it's likely going to be better than the current. It's wise for Uconn to understand all it's options and drive it's own destiny, whereas in the past, it's allowed its destiny to be determined by others.
if Uconn could possibly get it's sports into the big east with independant football being subsidized by SNY or Fox, and the money/exposure is better than the AAC, great!

A regular schedule with BC, Syracuse, and 5-6 other P5 schools would work (it's essentially a P5 schedule then). Just don't see that as possible, otherwise it would have been done already.

leaving the AAC for the sake of leaving doesn't solve anything.
 
Marty Jackson said:
because people keep saying independent would be a tough rode, then I assume it must be.

I think Uconn is angling for something, anything to keep its name on the radar. I think we can all agree, Uconn's take in the current AAC deal is undervalued.

But the new AAC deal is around the corner, and it's likely going to be better than the current. It's wise for Uconn to understand all it's options and drive it's own destiny, whereas in the past, it's allowed its destiny to be determined by others.
if Uconn could possibly get it's sports into the big east with independant football being subsidized by SNY or Fox, and the money/exposure is better than the AAC, great!

A regular schedule with BC, Syracuse, and 5-6 other P5 schools would work (it's essentially a P5 schedule then). Just don't see that as possible, otherwise it would have been done already.

leaving the AAC for the sake of leaving doesn't solve anything.
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It's a tough road if you don't plan. UMass is able to get six/seven home games a year and some decent road games. They take advantage of things like the Hawaii rule allowing them to play 13 games if they play @Hawaii. If UConn plans properly, they can go independent. The BOR is probably afraid it will hurt exposure and status, but I disagree because we could play more power conference schools, and BYU was fine stature-wise moving from the MWC to independence. This AAC is no better than that MWC. The other issue is bowl tie-in but as it is, 5-7 teams are going bowling so we would have no problem there (and I would rather have a better regular season schedule than a better bowl game).

The new AAC deal has to at least be doubled to make sense for UConn to stay as the NBE deal is twice the current AAC deal. It would be leaving for the sake of leaving; it would be leaving for better basketball and potentially a better football schedule.
 
Butch said:
We don't even sell out the stadium anymore and you want to go independent. Why do I post here?!?
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That's because we play a crap schedule. If you schedule independent, you could schedule better. No one cares about Memphis, Tulsa, or ECU. They would rather play Virginia, Missouri, and BC.
 
What bowl is UMASS tied to? None. Is UMass looking to go P5? No. They can't even get into the AAC. We do not follow what UMASS does because we are on 2 different tracks.
 
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hardcorehusky said:
What bowl is UMASS tied to? None. Is UMass looking to go P5? No. They can't even get into the AAC. We do not follow what UMASS does because we are on 2 different tracks.
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You missed the point. UMass is not looking to get into a P5 and they have a decent schedule. We have a much better brand than UMass so we could get a better schedule.
 
Butch said:
Did you notice the sellout against UVA? I didn't. I must be on a different planet.
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No, but did you notice the AAC games' attendances? I'll wait.
 
shizzle787 said:
No, but did you notice the AAC games' attendances? I'll wait.
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That's what I thought. The Virginia and Syracuse games were the two highest attended games. Maine was third followed by...wait for it... the four AAC games.
 
shizzle787 said:
You missed the point. UMass is not looking to get into a P5 and they have a decent schedule. We have a much better brand than UMass so we could get a better schedule.
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This takes the cake! Have you looked at UMass' home schedule over the next 2 years? It's terrible! No P5 and no rivals. Of course, if you want payday games you can sign up for 1 and done away games with P5 schools.

2017: Hawaii, Old Dominion, Ohio, Georgia Southern, Appalachian St., Maine

2018: Charlotte, USF, Coastal Carolina, Troy, BYU, 1 TBD

Unless a couple other schools go independent, there is no way UConn could assemble a decent home schedule.
 
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UConnJim said:
This takes the cake! Have you looked at UMass' home schedule over the next 2 years? It's terrible! No P5 and no rivals. Of course, if you want payday games you can sign up for 1 and done away games with P5 schools.

2017: Hawaii, Old Dominion, Ohio, Georgia Southern, Appalachian St., Maine

2018: Charlotte, USF, Coastal Carolina, Troy, BYU, 1 TBD

Unless a couple other schools go independent, there is no way UConn could assemble a decent home schedule.
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That's because UMass can't do h/hs with the P5. We can. We have three this year alone: Virginia, Missouri, and BC. If UMass had our brand, their good road games would also be good home games.
 
UConnJim said:
This takes the cake! Have you looked at UMass' home schedule over the next 2 years? It's terrible! No P5 and no rivals. Of course, if you want payday games you can sign up for 1 and done away games with P5 schools.

2017: Hawaii, Old Dominion, Ohio, Georgia Southern, Appalachian St., Maine

2018: Charlotte, USF, Coastal Carolina, Troy, BYU, 1 TBD

Unless a couple other schools go independent, there is no way UConn could assemble a decent home schedule.
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Schedule:
1. @Indiana
2. Illinois
3. NC State
4. @Maryland
5. @WVU
6. FCS
7. BYU
8 @UMass
9. Missouri
10. Army
11. @BC
12. NMSU

Home slate: Illinois, NC State, FCS, BYU, Missouri, Army, NMSU. That's better than what we have now.
 
Butch said:
Keep waiting. We're not going independent.

UMass absolutely wants into the P5. Who doesn't? Are you serious?
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UMass knows they are not getting in.
 
UConn going independent in football would be a real mistake. No incentive for any P-5 school to play them. No network for bowl games that they now enjoy in a conference or a show case conference championship game and recruiting would take a real hit. I have a hard time believing that UConn women's basketball loses money. I think some of those numbers might be politicized to make a point about gender in equality.
 
This "shizzle" dude is dumb as a rock.

The conferences never mentioned what the end goals are regarding expansion. So how do you know? Geez. Not wasting anymore time with you. You say some really senseless stuff, all topics.
 
weyuo said:
UConn going independent in football would be a real mistake. No incentive for any P-5 school to play them. No network for bowl games that they now enjoy in a conference or a show case conference championship game and recruiting would take a real hit. I have a hard time believing that UConn women's basketball loses money. I think some of those numbers might be politicized to make a point about gender in equality.
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Politicized? What? What incentive is there for any P5 school to play UConn now in the AAC? What's the difference? Who cares about what bowl we get? I would rather have a better regular season schedule than glorified exhibition game.
 
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