OT: Is the old way better?

[Rocktheworld]

A couple of you have referenced this but in SO many ways life was better without cell phones and younger people will never understand that

This is abject nonsense

Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world. Would you have whined about the advent of the printing press and telephone?

 

[Vuce]

This is abject nonsense

Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world. Would you have whined about the advent of the printing press and telephone?

Let me clarify - should have specified smart phones vs cell phones. Calm down son

 

[Rocktheworld]

Let me clarify - should have specified smart phones vs cell phones. Calm down son

Perfectly calm, tweetums; mind your words so you don’t make yourself into a fool

 

[Vuce]

Perfectly calm, tweetums; mind your words so you don’t make yourself into a fool

You gonna be ok?

 

[Spaceman213J]

First, cell phones have helped in some ways, but they have hurt in others. I remember going to my grandma's almost every Sunday for dinner and playing with my siblings and cousins there. Each person would get a nice dinner and cake on their birthday and everyone in the family came.
Now, my nieces and nephews, and even my siblings to some degree act like if they send you a text around your birthday they've made some big gesture.

Also, working in a school... it used to be kids learned basic manners at home and they were reinforced in the school setting. Now, most parents don't give a crap about manners or expect you to teach them at school as well. Maybe not what post was going for, but just venting a little.

I have no problem with NIL, but think the transfer rules need to overhauled as well.

 

[jleves]

5) TV was definitely NOT better before streaming. Streaming, non-network services have given us Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Game of Thrones, etc. Nothing before streaming compares to that level of product.

Streaming and non network programming are two different things. All three shows you mentioned started and two ended before anyone was streaming program content like that.

Streaming absolutely sucks compared to OTA or Cable/Sat services. It's cheaper for the most part - the only benefit. Starting up takes time. Pausing is extremely limited. Switching between two things (like during a commercial) is nearly impossible. Doubleplay on DirecTV with a 90 minute buffer allows you to watch two games almost real time without missing anything. Can't do that while streaming.

I do agree that non network programming changed the game starting with The Sopranos. And yes, some shows are only available on specific streaming services.

 

[Kitaman]

No, but my landline has a rotary phone sound option for when dialing.

 

[uconn13]

My wife and I miss the formerly proper grocery store check out process. Cashier handled the items from the belt, slid them down the chute and were bagged into paper bags, double bags for heavier items. Paper bags then were used as book covers or many other purposes. The current self check out with weight based scale inevitably will freeze, requiring an attendant to scan a code to allow you to continue checking out. Add to that, one attendant for 10 self check out lanes, decreasing the so called self check out speed and convenience substantially.
Old age is a bi*ch!

 

[storrsroars]

My wife and I miss the formerly proper grocery store check out process. Cashier handled the items from the belt, slid them down the chute and were bagged into paper bags, double bags for heavier items. Paper bags then were used as book covers or many other purposes. The current self check out with weight based scale inevitably will freeze, requiring an attendant to scan a code to allow you to continue checking out. Add to that, one attendant for 10 self check out lanes, decreasing the so called self check out speed and convenience substantially.
Old age is a bi*ch!

My worst day grocery shopping is when the handheld scanners are offline. I've even left the store to come back later. I've also rebooted the kiosk that holds the scanners a few times by unplugging it. A couple of times that actually worked. I bag as I go, checkout is like three buttons. Why everyone doesn't use these is inexplicable to me. I cannot stand being in a checkout line, and I now find even waiting to self-scan after finishing shopping to be annoying. And I'll be 70 next year. Get with the times, fogeys.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I do agree the youngest are missing out on album cover art and lyrics in the liner. I get they have everything at their finger tips but there is something about physically having it.

Last year,near where I live, Pensacola, FL got over 8" of snow in one day. Previous record in the state of Florida was 4.5" inches. The snow fall in one day eclipsed the total snow fall in recorded history in Pensacola.

A few weeks ago I saw a local photographer was selling hard cover books with photos of the event. I bought three copies. One for me and my wife, and one for each of my kids. Both of them are in their 20's and they initially looked at me like I was an alien when I gave them the books. I told them technology changes but print is forever. They kinda actually gave me a look like they understood.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

This is abject nonsense

Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world. Would you have whined about the advent of the printing press and telephone?

Access to information and inter-connectedness of various systems is a good thing but I don’t think the effects it’s going to have and is having on a lot of people’s mental health and happiness is good in any way. I feel badly for people who grew up on the internet.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Access to information and inter-connectedness of various systems is a good thing but I don’t think the effects it’s going to have and is having on a lot of people’s mental health and happiness is good in any way. I feel badly for people who grew up on the internet.

To me it goes back to a lack of education on how to to assess and evaluate information sources. I'm all for flooding people with info.

 

[MuchoDogYears]

With the advent of micro breweries, beer is 1000% better than back when. Ditto wine.

 

[HCCForever]

This is abject nonsense

Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world. Would you have whined about the advent of the printing press and telephone?

Access to expanded communications is good for the most part. But I sometimes miss the days when I couldn’t be reached. Now for the most part I’m tethered to a cell phone and I’m always expected to be reachable.

 

[superjohn]

This is abject nonsense

Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world. Would you have whined about the advent of the printing press and telephone?

The printing press and cell phones didn't create whole new generations who are terminally online, who only really interact through a screen. You're totally disregarding the deleterious effects it's had on society.

You knew he was talking about smart phones.

 

[superjohn]

This could be like 8 different threads.

1) College sports was dying. Players needed some form of compensation. That said, there was something about getting a freshman and watching him 4 years that you rarely ever get anymore.

2) Football was way better. But not healthy so some rules changed there. And when the money got so big, you needed to protect the investments.

3) The 3 pointer has killed the sport of basketball.

4) This is the one I'll sound like a boomer on. Getting your paycheck or allowance, riding your bike to a record store, looking through the stacks, coming home and listening to a classic album start to finish, reading the liner notes. That's something kids will never experience.

5) TV was definitely NOT better before streaming. Streaming, non-network services have given us Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Game of Thrones, etc. Nothing before streaming compares to that level of product.

5) I'm still trying to find a good series or movie since Ozark and maybe Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Netflix told David Lynch to screw off and has pretty much abandoned anything creative. It took years just to convince them to make the 4 episode limited series Death by Lightning and don't expect them to have any other creative projects like it coming down the pike.

We had an amazing time for dramas with The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under, Boardwalk, GOT, Breaking Bad and many others (it was the heyday of TV dramas) but from what I've seen and especially from what I've heard those days are done. We haven't had stuff like this in a many years now and don't expect more of it.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

I used to go to Caldors to get the newest releases. I believe this was every Tuesday. Now most people are too impatient to listen to a new album/music if unfamiliar tunes come on. Some songs take a few listens to enjoy.

I'm turning 40 this summer.

My bus stop was a few houses down from me at the corner of an apartment complex and a Caldor, and I bought all of my first cassettes (Green Day Dookie) and CDs (The Presidents of the United States of America S/T) there, as well as video games, candy, clothes, lol.

Back on topic, while I stream more than play physical albums, I've got my fair share of vinyls and I've still got all of my CDs from 1995+ that were worth saving (sorry, Limp Bizkit), and lately I've been getting into playing CDs more frequently whenever I drive my '09 Corolla.

Re: sports. NHL isn't as fun as it used to. I hate watching the NBA, but is it because it changed or did I change? The more I've coached, the more I appreciate basketball where athleticism and size isn't paramount: I watch way more mid-major basketball than P5; I'd prefer to go to a top-notch HS game than a top notch NBA game. I think I still like MLB the same as before, but I don't watch the NFL as much...maybe I've gotten better at prioritizing what I like? The legalization of gambling sucks too in terms of it ruining the sports watching experience.

 

[dogpause]

If the NCAA and its member schools had not been so greedy as to not provide any compensation to their student-athletes, NIL might never have happened. Even a golden goose has to be fed and nurtured. And we all know that geese can poop .

 

[Stinger92860]

Yeah old way . . . . . . . I remember not having to use an area code to make a call.

I remember leaning out the window of our 2nd floor apartment and yelling anyone want to play some ball? Believe it or not we did not own a phone, until we went with a party line.

 

[husky429]

Re: LIV golf. It's a nothingburger.

No one watches or cares about LIV golf. Their ratings suck.

It's an easy payday for old washed players and sellouts. The PGA still dominates ratings. If Rahm or Bryson go back to the Tour, the entire league will collapse. They're already posting massive $ losses.

 

[twiceahusky]

On the lighter side …

• bowling. I liked keeping score by hand. It got me more involved in the game.
• Computer based solitaire/cards. Playing with a deck of 52 cards taught you a lot. Today most high school students can’t shuffle, and I can’t even give probability questions in math class based on a deck of cards because nobody knows what the heck is in a deck.

As far as this take … “Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world.” I’ll bet not a single teacher or administrator (or parent) agrees with you.

 

[Jaydumo20]

I'm turning 40 this summer.

My bus stop was a few houses down from me at the corner of an apartment complex and a Caldor, and I bought all of my first cassettes (Green Day Dookie) and CDs (The Presidents of the United States of America S/T) there, as well as video games, candy, clothes, lol.

Back on topic, while I stream more than play physical albums, I've got my fair share of vinyls and I've still got all of my CDs from 1995+ that were worth saving (sorry, Limp Bizkit), and lately I've been getting into playing CDs more frequently whenever I drive my '09 Corolla.

Re: sports. NHL isn't as fun as it used to. I hate watching the NBA, but is it because it changed or did I change? The more I've coached, the more I appreciate basketball where athleticism and size isn't paramount: I watch way more mid-major basketball than P5; I'd prefer to go to a top-notch HS game than a top notch NBA game. I think I still like MLB the same as before, but I don't watch the NFL as much...maybe I've gotten better at prioritizing what I like? The legalization of gambling sucks too in terms of it ruining the sports watching experience.

I'm pretty much this to a T.
Anybody who frequented a Caldor is my Paisano for life.
Shes lump she's lump she's in my head.

 

[Rocktheworld]

You gonna be ok?

LMAO I’m already okay. You need to get the last word this badly? Are you gonna be okay?

Access to information and inter-connectedness of various systems is a good thing but I don’t think the effects it’s going to have and is having on a lot of people’s mental health and happiness is good in any way. I feel badly for people who grew up on the internet.

What is “it”? You’re making a separate point about the future when we’re talking about times that were allegedly better before a change or invention was made.

The printing press and cell phones didn't create whole new generations who are terminally online, who only really interact through a screen. You're totally disregarding the deleterious effects it's had on society.

You knew he was talking about smart phones.

How would I know that… when he used the exact term “cell phone”?

Access to expanded communications is good for the most part. But I sometimes miss the days when I couldn’t be reached. Now for the most part I’m tethered to a cell phone and I’m always expected to be reachable.

Most people I know for the most part would accept someone not being reachable (barring a true emergency, which is an obvious scenario that highlights how we are better off with cell phones) for a period of time with the reasoning “I needed a break”. I used to shut out the world and go solo hiking sans cell service a few times a year; I appreciate some solitude now and then.

But nobody -not one person on this forum- would trade in their cell phone to go back to relying on public land line phones and phone books.

 

[boog204]

As someone who works in education, many of my students think that cell phones and the internet have robbed them of the ability to develop grit and true critical thinking skills. This is based on not the access to communication, but the crutch it becomes in their life.

Social media has created a compare culture where they always are being force fed trends and have to choose not if they follow, but what to follow. It’s social suicide if you think differently.

From the teacher side, there’s endless texts, activities, projects, and units that have been locked away bc the literature has advanced beyond the students acumen. Despite having endless access to information, they just don’t know as much “stuff” anymore.

On the music side, as my long time band mate Dumo stated, the sheer joy of going to a music store, perusing the options, choosing, and then deep listening to a work as a cohesive whole is long, long gone. And that to me is a colossal shame.

 

[Deepster]

Re: LIV golf. It's a nothingburger.

No one watches or cares about LIV golf. Their ratings suck.

It's an easy payday for old washed players and sellouts. The PGA still dominates ratings. If Rahm or Bryson go back to the Tour, the entire league will collapse. They're already posting massive $ losses.

LIV is going to go down as the ABA to the NBA. Never was expected to last forever but forced the older stodgy league to adopt some new features and get up to the times.

I went to the Ryder Cup this year and there was music, scoreboards with cool stats and features, the app experience helped as a fan. I think LIV will fold but bleed over some of the features.