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OT: Is the old way better?

My wife and I miss the formerly proper grocery store check out process. Cashier handled the items from the belt, slid them down the chute and were bagged into paper bags, double bags for heavier items. Paper bags then were used as book covers or many other purposes. The current self check out with weight based scale inevitably will freeze, requiring an attendant to scan a code to allow you to continue checking out. Add to that, one attendant for 10 self check out lanes, decreasing the so called self check out speed and convenience substantially.
Old age is a bi*ch!
 
uconn13 said:
My wife and I miss the formerly proper grocery store check out process. Cashier handled the items from the belt, slid them down the chute and were bagged into paper bags, double bags for heavier items. Paper bags then were used as book covers or many other purposes. The current self check out with weight based scale inevitably will freeze, requiring an attendant to scan a code to allow you to continue checking out. Add to that, one attendant for 10 self check out lanes, decreasing the so called self check out speed and convenience substantially.
Old age is a bi*ch!
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My worst day grocery shopping is when the handheld scanners are offline. I've even left the store to come back later. I've also rebooted the kiosk that holds the scanners a few times by unplugging it. A couple of times that actually worked. I bag as I go, checkout is like three buttons. Why everyone doesn't use these is inexplicable to me. I cannot stand being in a checkout line, and I now find even waiting to self-scan after finishing shopping to be annoying. And I'll be 70 next year. Get with the times, fogeys.
 
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I do agree the youngest are missing out on album cover art and lyrics in the liner. I get they have everything at their finger tips but there is something about physically having it.

Last year,near where I live, Pensacola, FL got over 8" of snow in one day. Previous record in the state of Florida was 4.5" inches. The snow fall in one day eclipsed the total snow fall in recorded history in Pensacola.

A few weeks ago I saw a local photographer was selling hard cover books with photos of the event. I bought three copies. One for me and my wife, and one for each of my kids. Both of them are in their 20's and they initially looked at me like I was an alien when I gave them the books. I told them technology changes but print is forever. They kinda actually gave me a look like they understood.
 
Rocktheworld said:
This is abject nonsense

Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world. Would you have whined about the advent of the printing press and telephone?
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Access to information and inter-connectedness of various systems is a good thing but I don’t think the effects it’s going to have and is having on a lot of people’s mental health and happiness is good in any way. I feel badly for people who grew up on the internet.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Access to information and inter-connectedness of various systems is a good thing but I don’t think the effects it’s going to have and is having on a lot of people’s mental health and happiness is good in any way. I feel badly for people who grew up on the internet.
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To me it goes back to a lack of education on how to to assess and evaluate information sources. I'm all for flooding people with info.
 
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Rocktheworld said:
This is abject nonsense

Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world. Would you have whined about the advent of the printing press and telephone?
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Access to expanded communications is good for the most part. But I sometimes miss the days when I couldn’t be reached. Now for the most part I’m tethered to a cell phone and I’m always expected to be reachable.
 
Rocktheworld said:
This is abject nonsense

Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world. Would you have whined about the advent of the printing press and telephone?
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The printing press and cell phones didn't create whole new generations who are terminally online, who only really interact through a screen. You're totally disregarding the deleterious effects it's had on society.

You knew he was talking about smart phones.
 
Deepster said:
This could be like 8 different threads.

1) College sports was dying. Players needed some form of compensation. That said, there was something about getting a freshman and watching him 4 years that you rarely ever get anymore.

2) Football was way better. But not healthy so some rules changed there. And when the money got so big, you needed to protect the investments.

3) The 3 pointer has killed the sport of basketball.

4) This is the one I'll sound like a boomer on. Getting your paycheck or allowance, riding your bike to a record store, looking through the stacks, coming home and listening to a classic album start to finish, reading the liner notes. That's something kids will never experience.

5) TV was definitely NOT better before streaming. Streaming, non-network services have given us Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Game of Thrones, etc. Nothing before streaming compares to that level of product.
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5) I'm still trying to find a good series or movie since Ozark and maybe Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Netflix told David Lynch to screw off and has pretty much abandoned anything creative. It took years just to convince them to make the 4 episode limited series Death by Lightning and don't expect them to have any other creative projects like it coming down the pike.

We had an amazing time for dramas with The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under, Boardwalk, GOT, Breaking Bad and many others (it was the heyday of TV dramas) but from what I've seen and especially from what I've heard those days are done. We haven't had stuff like this in many years now and don't expect more of it.
 
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HCCForever said:
I used to go to Caldors to get the newest releases. I believe this was every Tuesday. Now most people are too impatient to listen to a new album/music if unfamiliar tunes come on. Some songs take a few listens to enjoy.
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I'm turning 40 this summer.

My bus stop was a few houses down from me at the corner of an apartment complex and a Caldor, and I bought all of my first cassettes (Green Day Dookie) and CDs (The Presidents of the United States of America S/T) there, as well as video games, candy, clothes, lol.

Back on topic, while I stream more than play physical albums, I've got my fair share of vinyls and I've still got all of my CDs from 1995+ that were worth saving (sorry, Limp Bizkit), and lately I've been getting into playing CDs more frequently whenever I drive my '09 Corolla.

Re: sports. NHL isn't as fun as it used to. I hate watching the NBA, but is it because it changed or did I change? The more I've coached, the more I appreciate basketball where athleticism and size isn't paramount: I watch way more mid-major basketball than P5; I'd prefer to go to a top-notch HS game than a top notch NBA game. I think I still like MLB the same as before, but I don't watch the NFL as much...maybe I've gotten better at prioritizing what I like? The legalization of gambling sucks too in terms of it ruining the sports watching experience.
 
If the NCAA and its member schools had not been so greedy as to not provide any compensation to their student-athletes, NIL might never have happened. Even a golden goose has to be fed and nurtured. And we all know that geese can poop .
 
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Re: LIV golf. It's a nothingburger.

No one watches or cares about LIV golf. Their ratings suck.

It's an easy payday for old washed players and sellouts. The PGA still dominates ratings. If Rahm or Bryson go back to the Tour, the entire league will collapse. They're already posting massive $ losses.
 
On the lighter side …
  • bowling. I liked keeping score by hand. It got me more involved in the game.
  • Computer based solitaire/cards. Playing with a deck of 52 cards taught you a lot. Today most high school students can’t shuffle, and I can’t even give probability questions in math class based on a deck of cards because nobody knows what the heck is in a deck.

As far as this take … “Say what you want about texting or having the internet in your pocket but expanding communication the way cell phones did so clearly improved the world.” I’ll bet not a single teacher or administrator (or parent) agrees with you.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
I'm turning 40 this summer.

My bus stop was a few houses down from me at the corner of an apartment complex and a Caldor, and I bought all of my first cassettes (Green Day Dookie) and CDs (The Presidents of the United States of America S/T) there, as well as video games, candy, clothes, lol.

Back on topic, while I stream more than play physical albums, I've got my fair share of vinyls and I've still got all of my CDs from 1995+ that were worth saving (sorry, Limp Bizkit), and lately I've been getting into playing CDs more frequently whenever I drive my '09 Corolla.

Re: sports. NHL isn't as fun as it used to. I hate watching the NBA, but is it because it changed or did I change? The more I've coached, the more I appreciate basketball where athleticism and size isn't paramount: I watch way more mid-major basketball than P5; I'd prefer to go to a top-notch HS game than a top notch NBA game. I think I still like MLB the same as before, but I don't watch the NFL as much...maybe I've gotten better at prioritizing what I like? The legalization of gambling sucks too in terms of it ruining the sports watching experience.
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I'm pretty much this to a T.
Anybody who frequented a Caldor is my Paisano for life.
Shes lump she's lump she's in my head.
 
Vuce said:
You gonna be ok?
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LMAO I’m already okay. You need to get the last word this badly? Are you gonna be okay?
BigErnMcCracken said:
Access to information and inter-connectedness of various systems is a good thing but I don’t think the effects it’s going to have and is having on a lot of people’s mental health and happiness is good in any way. I feel badly for people who grew up on the internet.
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What is “it”? You’re making a separate point about the future when we’re talking about times that were allegedly better before a change or invention was made.
superjohn said:
The printing press and cell phones didn't create whole new generations who are terminally online, who only really interact through a screen. You're totally disregarding the deleterious effects it's had on society.

You knew he was talking about smart phones.
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How would I know that… when he used the exact term “cell phone”?
HCCForever said:
Access to expanded communications is good for the most part. But I sometimes miss the days when I couldn’t be reached. Now for the most part I’m tethered to a cell phone and I’m always expected to be reachable.
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Most people I know for the most part would accept someone not being reachable (barring a true emergency, which is an obvious scenario that highlights how we are better off with cell phones) for a period of time with the reasoning “I needed a break”. I used to shut out the world and go solo hiking sans cell service a few times a year; I appreciate some solitude now and then.

But nobody -not one person on this forum- would trade in their cell phone to go back to relying on public land line phones and phone books.
 
As someone who works in education, many of my students think that cell phones and the internet have robbed them of the ability to develop grit and true critical thinking skills. This is based on not the access to communication, but the crutch it becomes in their life.

Social media has created a compare culture where they always are being force fed trends and have to choose not if they follow, but what to follow. It’s social suicide if you think differently.

From the teacher side, there’s endless texts, activities, projects, and units that have been locked away bc the literature has advanced beyond the students acumen. Despite having endless access to information, they just don’t know as much “stuff” anymore.

On the music side, as my long time band mate Dumo stated, the sheer joy of going to a music store, perusing the options, choosing, and then deep listening to a work as a cohesive whole is long, long gone. And that to me is a colossal shame.
 
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husky429 said:
Re: LIV golf. It's a nothingburger.

No one watches or cares about LIV golf. Their ratings suck.

It's an easy payday for old washed players and sellouts. The PGA still dominates ratings. If Rahm or Bryson go back to the Tour, the entire league will collapse. They're already posting massive $ losses.
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LIV is going to go down as the ABA to the NBA. Never was expected to last forever but forced the older stodgy league to adopt some new features and get up to the times.

I went to the Ryder Cup this year and there was music, scoreboards with cool stats and features, the app experience helped as a fan. I think LIV will fold but bleed over some of the features.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Most people I know for the most part would accept someone not being reachable (barring a true emergency, which is an obvious scenario that highlights how we are better off with cell phones) for a period of time with the reasoning “I needed a break”. I used to shut out the world and go solo hiking sans cell service a few times a year; I appreciate some solitude now and then.

But nobody -not one person on this forum- would trade in their cell phone to go back to relying on public land line phones and phone books.
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Obviously you don’t know people like my wife who assumes I’m in a bar if I don’t answer immediately. She is sometimes correct, BTW. But your other points are right on. Nice to have a cell phone in an emergency rather than trying to find a phone booth.
 
HCCForever said:
Obviously you don’t know people like my wife who assumes I’m in a bar if I don’t answer immediately. She is sometimes correct, BTW. But your other points are right on. Nice to have a cell phone in an emergency rather than trying to find a phone booth.
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My wife has been trying to get me to leave Samsung and get an iPhone so she can track my whereabouts. I still haven't given in. I need one last corner of this earth where im not reachable 24/7.
 
boog204 said:
As someone who works in education, many of my students think that cell phones and the internet have robbed them of the ability to develop grit and true critical thinking skills. This is based on not the access to communication, but the crutch it becomes in their life.

Social media has created a compare culture where they always are being force fed trends and have to choose not if they follow, but what to follow. It’s social suicide if you think differently.

From the teacher side, there’s endless texts, activities, projects, and units that have been locked away bc the literature has advanced beyond the students acumen. Despite having endless access to information, they just don’t know as much “stuff” anymore.

On the music side, as my long time band mate Dumo stated, the sheer joy of going to a music store, perusing the options, choosing, and then deep listening to a work as a cohesive whole is long, long gone. And that to me is a colossal shame.
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Im getting my masters in neuroscience, and brain scans from people who are on their phones even 3 hours a day show some pretty nasty effects. It is even worse for anyone under 26 years. The brain is not fully formed until that time and reliance on automation and time spent scrolling and staring at screens atrophies physical parts of the adult brain and prevents the actual formation of synapses and Grey matter in those under 26.
 
husky429 said:
Re: LIV golf. It's a nothingburger.

No one watches or cares about LIV golf. Their ratings suck.
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I can't believe anyone thought this would work. It's not a golf tournament, it's a golfing exhibition. Golf gets boring without the tension, there's nothing at stake. The only "fans" seem to be virtue signalers.
 
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Rocktheworld said:
Music has absolutely been in decline since at least around 2015
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Since around 1985 is more like it. But at the very least it's been bad since autotune started dominating starting with Believe from Cher in 1998.
 
storrsroars said:
My worst day grocery shopping is when the handheld scanners are offline. I've even left the store to come back later. I've also rebooted the kiosk that holds the scanners a few times by unplugging it. A couple of times that actually worked. I bag as I go, checkout is like three buttons. Why everyone doesn't use these is inexplicable to me. I cannot stand being in a checkout line, and I now find even waiting to self-scan after finishing shopping to be annoying. And I'll be 70 next year. Get with the times, fogeys.
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My wife is the same. She scans and places everything where she wants it as she goes so it's easier to unpack. I never buy much stuff so I just use self checkout, but the last thing I want to do is wait in line behind somebody with a full cart when I've got 8-10 items. There are some "services" I just don't value, and scanning items is one of them. It's up there with the guys who stand there and hand you a paper town at some fancy bathrooms and pouring wine after the initial pour.
 
Vuce said:
It was definitely better when you had true regional conferences. Not the ridiculous mish mash of conference affiliations you have now
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That's the most sensible line in this entire thread.

I remember when the Big East made sense. Omaha, Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Chicago are not in the East.
 
Spaceman213J said:
Now, my nieces and nephews, and even my siblings to some degree act like if they send you a text around your birthday they've made some big gesture.
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I was very happy to get texts from my kids, all my grandkids and great-grandkids, all the way down to my great-great-granddaughter on my birthday this past weekend.
In the "good old days" most of them (well, at least a couple) would have stopped by and brought this nasty cold/virus that's going around with them.
 
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On a music standpoint, artists simply don’t have to grind as much anymore to earn a deal.

Previously, if you were a legit artist you had to prove you can actually make great music to earn a deal and they developed you as an artist.

Today they are looking for viral sensations and don’t invest in artist development as much anymore.

Streams are causing artists to make less money than ever while not cultivating real fan bases to be able to tour with… it’s a completely broken system.
 
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