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Is Karaban the GOAT if he gets third chip?

Is Karaban the best husky ever if he gets third title?

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Title says it all. He would obviously be the only UConn player with three rings. Flip side is he would (likely) be, for each of the three titles, a complimentary 2nd or 3rd scorer apart of a deep and balanced team.
 
It will say a lot more about Hurley than Alex if we win a third that quickly. This staff puts together great teams without spending near what schools like UK and Arkansas are spending. I honestly believe that we should spend whatever it takes to keep this staff together. It is cheaper than buying a new roster at top dollar every year.
 
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I don't see this as a yes or no answer. If they were to win this year and it was his season and tourney, then maybe yes. That means taking games over when the team is sluggish or off. Making the key plays in crunch time to pull out wins. No prolonged shooting slumps where he has a month shooting 5 of 49 from the arc. Big East Tourney MOP, regional first team type efforts in the Dance, etc.

If he's, as someone else said, the 2nd or 3rd scorer and not the clear leader on the floor then it's not even close to a yes.
 
There are 2 aspects to this assessment.

1 aspect is the direct contribution. Ie. It is directly due to this player's contributions that we achieved this...

The other aspect is based upon the caliber of the teams that earned the championships, themselves. With appropriate attribution for the individual player's contribution, to be sure.

If Alex earns a 3rd ring, that certainly places him among the best. It makes him our only triple ring winner.

We're he to have been a fourple ring winner? Well that would certainly influence my thinking more.
 
GOAT? No. But obviously our greatest winner. GOAT is reserved for guys who won big and AA types. Even with an another title this year, I don’t see Alex being an All-American. If we win this year, it will be more about Solo and Tarris being a dominant 1-2 punch.
 
boog204 said:
GOAT? No. But obviously our greatest winner. GOAT is reserved for guys who won big and AA types. Even with an another title this year, I don’t see Alex being an All-American. If we win this year, it will be more about Solo and Tarris being a dominant 1-2 punch.
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Yes...

And, in terms of earning the GOAT title....

Alex was seldom even the Huskies' best player on the court over his career, so far.
 
Emphatically hell no, Charles Barkley's rant on bus drivers and bus riders/passengers comes to mind when reading this thread title
 
That can’t be rationally answered yes. Even if he’s the best player on the championship team that hasn’t happened yet. Why not ask if Tyler Olander is a better big man than Okafor, Sanogo, Thabeet and Voskuhl because he has more rings.
 
He would be the only guy with three championships so most decorated team accomplishment wise but there's dozens of Huskies who were better than him. He was the 5th of 6th best player on our two championship teams.
 
GOAT? Nah. More like the Jeter of the championship Yankee teams. High level complimentary player but as was demonstrated last year, he can't put the team on his shoulders and carry them the way Kemba or Bazz did.
 
Esteemed, decorated, a “winner” yes. He would be the first it’s kind in the modern era and for that would be etched in the record books. But in no way is a “best” Husky.
 
Most decorated player, yes.
Best Husky ever, no.

But, if he is also a first team all American, then he would have a strong case.

But overall, emphatically hell no, Charles Barkley's rant on bus drivers and bus riders/passengers comes to mind when reading this thread title
 
Dove said:
Most decorated player, yes.
Best Husky ever, no.

But, if he is also a first team all American, then he would have a strong case.

But overall, emphatically hell no, Charles Barkley's rant on bus drivers and bus riders/passengers comes to mind when reading this thread title
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He would need to rack up every individual accomplishment possible to enter that convo and it would still fall short since we had guys win those awards over multiple seasons(RIP is a good example).
 
IF we win it all and he is a consensus First Team All-American and Final Four MOP, then we can have that discussion. He wasn't "the guy" on either of the two championship teams. It would require a Rip/Emeka/Kemba/Bazz/Newton type of season to enter that discussion. Not even Sanogo was an All-American and IMO he was the best center in the country, although the media had a love affair with Timme.
 
If he pulled off a Shabbazz-esque leadership season en route to a championship then he’d be solidly in the conversation. Otherwise, he’ll further solidify legendary status at UConn but would remain outside the GOAT discussion as an individual player.
 
Deepster said:
I don't see this as a yes or no answer. If they were to win this year and it was his season and tourney, then maybe yes. That means taking games over when the team is sluggish or off. Making the key plays in crunch time to pull out wins. No prolonged shooting slumps where he has a month shooting 5 of 49 from the arc. Big East Tourney MOP, regional first team type efforts in the Dance, etc.

If he's, as someone else said, the 2nd or 3rd scorer and not the clear leader on the floor then it's not even close to a yes.
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Good points.
 
Chin Diesel said:
GOAT? Nah. More like the Jeter of the championship Yankee teams. High level complimentary player but as was demonstrated last year, he can't put the team on his shoulders and carry them the way Kemba or Bazz did.
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I was gonna use the same Jeter comparison. He will be the player most remembered from this era, as Jeter was to that yankee team. For us, as UConn bballfreaks, if he holds that Jeter place in our history then who cares if he was the Alpha? There are way more A1's in our history then there are Karabans. He would probably be the most beloved Husky ever. We also know him personally better than anyone else at this stage in their career. I feel like I'm the damn dudes uncle.
 
Jaydumo20 said:
I was gonna use the same Jeter comparison. He will be the player most remembered from this era, as Jeter was to that yankee team. For us, as UConn bballfreaks, if he holds that Jeter place in our history then who cares if he was the Alpha? There are way more A1's in our history then there are Karabans. He would probably be the most beloved Husky ever. We also know him personally better than anyone else at this stage in their career. I feel like I'm the damn dudes uncle.
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You're not just his uncle, you're his funcle.
 
thekollieman said:
If he pulled off a Shabbazz-esque leadership season en route to a championship then he’d be solidly in the conversation. Otherwise, he’ll further solidify legendary status at UConn but would remain outside the GOAT discussion as an individual player.
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IMHO, his leadership is and has been, outstanding.

But he is not, and has never been, in that particular role, where he "takes over" a game. He is rarely the "player of the game".

And I do not.mean either of those.statements as subtraction from him, what he brings to the team or what he brings in particular.games.

He is an excellent, and versatile 4. Can play small5, and occasionally be a bit oversized 3.

But GOAT?

I just cannot.confer.that mantle.
 
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