Iowa-Indiana Incredible Finish!

[hard2please]

stupid coaching loses games sometimes

 

[GoUconn7961]

It’ll never happen but I’d love to see Maddy Siegrist take NPOY.

 

[Bigboote]

Do they have anyone to replace Czinano? That and the loss of Warnock will be significant for them. Maybe Hannah Stuelke? Otherwise, they're likely to look very small in the front court.

Steulke has looked good to me in the limited minutes she gets, I think around 10 per game.

 

[Conndog]

All of you amateur refs take a closer look at how many steps Clark took before she shot the ball. The shot was fantastic and clutch but, Clark took three steps before she shot the ball.

In real time it looked good, but slowing it down, she catches pass just before putting right foot on court, then steps with left foot, then one more time with right foot down on court again before jumping into air- she did travel!

 

[wingsfan055]

Clark is definitely the POY. She plays the game the right way, the way it should be played today. Geno would have loved to have coached her.

 

[hookshot]

All of you amateur refs take a closer look at how many steps Clark took before she shot the ball. The shot was fantastic and clutch but, Clark took three steps before she shot the ball.

You could definitely make that argument, not 3 steps, but she re-gathered both feet, including her pivot foot in setting her feet for the shot - that type of move is not always called a walk (almost never in the NBA), although it technically and clearly is. On the just prior play the Indiana post just as clearly shuffled both feet, including her pivot foot, in setting her feet for the shot that she got fouled on (and converted foul shots) to give Indiana their lead (the Iowa coach went ballistic and the announcer agreed it was a walk on the replay). But again, not all things that are technically walks are called, so turnabout was fair play in this game. Walking that is called is normally a visual reaction (of the ref or other viewer) - it's like pornography, hard to define, but you know it when you see it

 

[wingsfan055]

Yup... I wondered, too. Would have made it VERY difficult for an Iowa game winner...

The Indiana coach literally gave the W away. Miss the FT and it's virtually impossible to make a 3/4 full court shot.

 

[MaineFan]

I love women's basketball. I love the spread out array of talent that has brought parity to the game. I hugely admire the extraordinary skills of Caitlin Clark. I hope lots of my fellow Boneyarders got a chance to watch the just-concluded Iowa-Indiana game, and the magic Caitlin brought to the finish!

Off topic? link:

 

[MaineFan]

"Walking that is called is normally a visual reaction (of the ref or other viewer) - it's like pornography, 'hard to define, but know it when see it'" -- a comment written in 1964 by Justice Potter Stewart (Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184) -- who is said to have regretted that comment for the rest of his life

 

[tchalla1]

Agreed re Indiana, a really well-balanced, well-coached team.

Re Caitlin, she gets the calls that all top players get, and pretty much every one of the top players complains when she doesn't get a call, right?

Very true, but Clark whines, whines incessantly, and it comes across as expected entitlement...

 

[tchalla1]

Pete Maravich is the closest I can recall to her style of play
She's the fem version....

Good comparison! BTW, the guy at Houston is about to break Maravich's NCAA scoring record, but if ever an asterisk was needed: this guy played four years, Pistol Pete did his in three: freshmen weren't eligible in those days...

 

[visitingcock]

Good comparison! BTW, the guy at Houston is about to break Maravich's NCAA scoring record, but if ever an asterisk was needed: this guy played five years, Pistol Pete did his in three: freshmen weren't eligible in those days...

Weren’t seasons shorter too?

 

[darkstar1]

All of you amateur refs take a closer look at how many steps Clark took before she shot the ball. The shot was fantastic and clutch but, Clark took three steps before she shot the ball.

That AND I thought it was a foul on the screen by Czinano. At least similar to several called previously. Still I was rooting for Iowa and the refs swallowing the whistle made it happen, imo.

 

[npignatjr]

Nika 2

Worse and seems to make faces if a teammate makes a bad play.

 

[npignatjr]

Great game, fabulous shot. But two big Indiana coaching mistakes in the last 1.5 seconds.

First, as someone else point out, Indiana should have tried to miss the free throw--a three was much more plausible for Iowa than a two, so the extra point didn't matter nearly as much as the extra half second (at least) for a rebound.

Second--why in the world wasn't Indiana prepared to switch instantly on a screen for Clark? Or maybe have two players ready to pick up after a screen? Who did they think was going to shoot it? And then they could have had a third player ready to pick up Czinano in case she rolled.

Indiana really didn't play defense against her very good all game. She had many easy layups caused by matador defense. Didn't work to deny her the ball if she didn't have it. Last shot most defense was inside the 3 point line.

 

[npignatjr]

Boston is not a high minutes player gets gassed.

 

[npignatjr]

Charlie Cream was just on the SEC Network and said with today’s win he moves Iowa to a two seed and drops UConn to a three seed.

He works for ESPN, ESPN owns the SEC network, ESPN controls, $, the WCBB tournament. UCONN basically plays in a mid major conference, ESPN pushes the big guys.

 

[Viet Vet]

I don't mean to rain on the parade (I love Caitlin Clark), but she travelled prior to the shot. She gains possession of the pass, comes down on her right foot which becomes her pivot foot, then her left, then her right AGAIN prior to releasing the ball. That is travelling.

 

[npignatjr]

You could definitely make that argument, not 3 steps, but she re-gathered both feet, including her pivot foot in setting her feet for the shot - that type of move is not always called a walk (almost never in the NBA), although it technically and clearly is. On the just prior play the Indiana post just as clearly shuffled both feet, including her pivot foot, in setting her feet for the shot that she got fouled on (and converted foul shots) to give Indiana their lead (the Iowa coach went ballistic and the announcer agreed it was a walk on the replay). But again, not all things that are technically walks are called, so turnabout was fair play in this game. Walking that is called is normally a visual reaction (of the ref or other viewer) - it's like pornography, hard to define, but you know it when you see it

When was Holmes fouled? I think the first contact before the shuffle.

 

[npignatjr]

Very true, but Clark whines, whines incessantly, and it comes across as expected entitlement...

She is the NPOY, yes, but makes a game winning shot then goes to the stands first, look what I did, before her teammates.

 

[Bone Dog]

Indiana really didn't play defense against her very good all game. She had many easy layups caused by matador defense. Didn't work to deny her the ball if she didn't have it. Last shot most defense was inside the 3 point line.

I’d say Indiana didn’t play much defense on the perimeter all game. I was disappointed by what I saw. I mean we throttled Clark and would have blown them out if Martin hadn’t had the game of her life. Was this just an off night for IU? Or are they capable of really challenging the good teams?

I suppose it’s hard to win playing Iowa at home. That’s a pretty raucous arena. Though Creighton did it last year.

 

[Pharos]

Very true, but Clark whines, whines incessantly, and it comes across as expected entitlement...

Overcoming immaturity is a process. Maturity, humility... some get it younger than others. Some get it in the context of their relationships younger than others. That's what makes UConn players impressive. You get the impression that they recruit for such qualities.

 

[VivaLsVgs]

Some of you need to take off the Uconn colored glasses. I haven’t watched Caitlin enough to know if she whines or not but Nika is the queen of making faces and mouthing off when she doesn’t like something that transpired during the game. To insinuate that Uconn only recruits those that follow the Emily Post rules of comportment is just not true.

 

[Jaml]

I agree with those of you who say Clark utilizes a stiff arm to ward off defenders and does whine constantly (berating refs) even though they are ignoring the stiff arm and sending her to the line on touch fouls. What kept Indiana in the game was Clark must have missed 10 3s in a row prior to the buzzer beater. Yes, she did travel, but they didn't call it after Bluder was screaming at the refs after not calling a travel on Holmes.

 

[Shenandoah]

Disagree. Clark is a phenominal shooter and passer. Boston is really good, and is covered by the officials.