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Pete Maravich is the closest I can recall to her style of play
She's the fem version....
Good comparison! BTW, the guy at Houston is about to break Maravich's NCAA scoring record, but if ever an asterisk was needed: this guy played four years, Pistol Pete did his in three: freshmen weren't eligible in those days...
 
All of you amateur refs take a closer look at how many steps Clark took before she shot the ball. The shot was fantastic and clutch but, Clark took three steps before she shot the ball.
That AND I thought it was a foul on the screen by Czinano. At least similar to several called previously. Still I was rooting for Iowa and the refs swallowing the whistle made it happen, imo.
 
Great game, fabulous shot. But two big Indiana coaching mistakes in the last 1.5 seconds.

First, as someone else point out, Indiana should have tried to miss the free throw--a three was much more plausible for Iowa than a two, so the extra point didn't matter nearly as much as the extra half second (at least) for a rebound.

Second--why in the world wasn't Indiana prepared to switch instantly on a screen for Clark? Or maybe have two players ready to pick up after a screen? Who did they think was going to shoot it? And then they could have had a third player ready to pick up Czinano in case she rolled.
Indiana really didn't play defense against her very good all game. She had many easy layups caused by matador defense. Didn't work to deny her the ball if she didn't have it. Last shot most defense was inside the 3 point line.
 
Aalihay Boston played less minutes, far, because SC didn't need her to play the max
Let's see what happens in March
Boston is not a high minutes player gets gassed.
 
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Charlie Cream was just on the SEC Network and said with today’s win he moves Iowa to a two seed and drops UConn to a three seed.
He works for ESPN, ESPN owns the SEC network, ESPN controls, $, the WCBB tournament. UCONN basically plays in a mid major conference, ESPN pushes the big guys.
 
I don't mean to rain on the parade (I love Caitlin Clark), but she travelled prior to the shot. She gains possession of the pass, comes down on her right foot which becomes her pivot foot, then her left, then her right AGAIN prior to releasing the ball. That is travelling.
 
You could definitely make that argument, not 3 steps, but she re-gathered both feet, including her pivot foot in setting her feet for the shot - that type of move is not always called a walk (almost never in the NBA), although it technically and clearly is. On the just prior play the Indiana post just as clearly shuffled both feet, including her pivot foot, in setting her feet for the shot that she got fouled on (and converted foul shots) to give Indiana their lead (the Iowa coach went ballistic and the announcer agreed it was a walk on the replay). But again, not all things that are technically walks are called, so turnabout was fair play in this game. Walking that is called is normally a visual reaction (of the ref or other viewer) - it's like pornography, hard to define, but you know it when you see it
When was Holmes fouled? I think the first contact before the shuffle.
 
Very true, but Clark whines, whines incessantly, and it comes across as expected entitlement...
She is the NPOY, yes, but makes a game winning shot then goes to the stands first, look what I did, before her teammates.
 
Indiana really didn't play defense against her very good all game. She had many easy layups caused by matador defense. Didn't work to deny her the ball if she didn't have it. Last shot most defense was inside the 3 point line.
I’d say Indiana didn’t play much defense on the perimeter all game. I was disappointed by what I saw. I mean we throttled Clark and would have blown them out if Martin hadn’t had the game of her life. Was this just an off night for IU? Or are they capable of really challenging the good teams?

I suppose it’s hard to win playing Iowa at home. That’s a pretty raucous arena. Though Creighton did it last year.
 
Very true, but Clark whines, whines incessantly, and it comes across as expected entitlement...
Overcoming immaturity is a process. Maturity, humility... some get it younger than others. Some get it in the context of their relationships younger than others. That's what makes UConn players impressive. You get the impression that they recruit for such qualities.
 
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Some of you need to take off the Uconn colored glasses. I haven’t watched Caitlin enough to know if she whines or not but Nika is the queen of making faces and mouthing off when she doesn’t like something that transpired during the game. To insinuate that Uconn only recruits those that follow the Emily Post rules of comportment is just not true.
 
I agree with those of you who say Clark utilizes a stiff arm to ward off defenders and does whine constantly (berating refs) even though they are ignoring the stiff arm and sending her to the line on touch fouls. What kept Indiana in the game was Clark must have missed 10 3s in a row prior to the buzzer beater. Yes, she did travel, but they didn't call it after Bluder was screaming at the refs after not calling a travel on Holmes.
 
Some of you need to take off the Uconn colored glasses. I haven’t watched Caitlin enough to know if she whines or not but Nika is the queen of making faces and mouthing off when she doesn’t like something that transpired during the game. To insinuate that Uconn only recruits those that follow the Emily Post rules of comportment is just not true.
Nika has a tendency to not follow up on the transition when she feels that she was fouled with a no call. Love the kids toughness, but to watch her standing over the end line, complaining, when the play is going the other way needs to be adressed.
 
Did not see the game but looking at the scoring timeline why didn't Indiana try to miss the FT with 1 sec left?
How about because the Hoosiers wanted to be up by two, rather than take the chance of being up by one.
If Indiana is up by one, Iowa would have had many more options. Maybe I'm missing something here.??
 
That was a really good game. The top players showed up and the clutch plays in the 4th quarter were something. I see a lot of comments about missing on purpose which is great in hindsight but if you do they still have over a second and you lose on a 2 pointer so I think Indiana did the right thing. Maybe next time they will make someone other than Clark take the last shot.

Clark is the best player in college right now. She defends, she can pass, she can rebound and she can score. The best part of her game for me though is she will go to the basket and draw fouls. If I was drafting a team though and I could take her or Boston I would take Boston without a second thought.
 
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Some of you need to take off the Uconn colored glasses. I haven’t watched Caitlin enough to know if she whines or not but Nika is the queen of making faces and mouthing off when she doesn’t like something that transpired during the game. To insinuate that Uconn only recruits those that follow the Emily Post rules of comportment is just not true.
Oh contrare--I make a distinct difference between Nika's reaction to refs and Clark's: Nika is an agitated vociferous barker, but not a whiner. Does Nika complain too much? Probably so, but I guess I can tolerate Nika's barking more than Clark's whining --she comes across as a spoiled child...
 
I hope Iowa enjoys this year. I just checked their roster and they have Clark and four seniors in their starting line up. Next year will be Clark…and only Clark.
Their center is a Covid fifth-year player but the other three are eligible to return. There is no reason to believe they won’t.
 
How about because the Hoosiers wanted to be up by two, rather than take the chance of being up by one.
If Indiana is up by one, Iowa would have had many more options. Maybe I'm missing something here.??

Not with 1.5 seconds left on the clock.
 
I love women's basketball. I love the spread out array of talent that has brought parity to the game. I hugely admire the extraordinary skills of Caitlin Clark. I hope lots of my fellow Boneyarders got a chance to watch the just-concluded Iowa-Indiana game, and the magic Caitlin brought to the finish!
Best game of the year. I kept thinking, in the Uconn bracket is one of these teams. Very good defense,both sides, Offense some of the best and Uconn may meet them?
Maryland and South Carolina was a fun watch. Tough's against toughs! This NCAA Tourney has the potential to draw VIEWERS.
 
Best game of the year. I kept thinking, in the Uconn bracket is one of these teams. Very good defense,both sides, Offense some of the best and Uconn may meet them?
With different personnel, we already beat Iowa handily (though they made a good run in the third quarter). In our current configuration, only assuming everyone is well rested, I think it would be a tossup. Same for IU — with the team we had in November it wouldn’t even be close. But now a tossup.
 
How about because the Hoosiers wanted to be up by two, rather than take the chance of being up by one.
If Indiana is up by one, Iowa would have had many more options. Maybe I'm missing something here.??
You hit the salient point, quick rebound, time out and then your options open up from half court only needing 2 to win. You can’t contest the rebound on the missed foul shot for fear of a foul. Not a horrible call to miss the 2nd foul shot but it by no means assures victory with the time out moving the ball to half court. Frankly, the bigger Indiana blunder IMO was playing one person on Clark and having 4 people below the 3 point line essentially inactive. After the defender was picked no one ran at Clark but everyone stood and watched her fire. Not sure that was what the coach drew up but when Clark lined up on the opposite side of the court from the ball, the play seemed very predictable.
 
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Rules experts - on the discussion of whether Clark traveled on the last shot. If the refs had ruled travel, no shot, could that have been overturned if they deemed it not a travel. Conversely, should they have reviewed the shot, and if they did, could they only determine whether it was made in time and could not negate it due to a missed travel call?
 
You hit the salient point, quick rebound, time out and then your options open up from half court only needing 2 to win. You can’t contest the rebound on the missed foul shot for fear of a foul. Not a horrible call to miss the 2nd foul shot but it by no means assures victory with the time out moving the ball to half court. Frankly, the bigger Indiana blunder IMO was playing one person on Clark and having 4 people below the 3 point line essentially inactive. After the defender was picked no one ran at Clark but everyone stood and watched her fire. Not sure that was what the coach drew up but when Clark lined up on the opposite side of the court from the ball, the play seemed very predictable.
Great call. I agree 100% with this post. They didn't pressure the inbounder so it was 5 on 4 and they still allowed Clark to get a relatively clean look. Garzon was protecting the lob, but it seems kinda like she went to defend the inbounder after the pass to Clark. It's a great shot and a split second decision. But If she woulda tried a bit more to contest Clark, maybe it would've been an even more difficult shot.
 
Yawn. What’s all the hubbub about? It is acknowledged that the game was close throughout and that Clark is an outstanding shooter. But making a last second shot to win a game is not a rarity even in a big game. I recall one shot that they wrote a book about. Let me see if I can recall ..... Oh yes, “Bird at the Buzzer”. That was against Notre Dame to win the Big East Tournament in 2001. There was no advance the ball rule back then so she had to run the ball the full length of the court, stop, pop and win the game. Diana also made a last second shot against Tennessee to win a game. That play is noteworthy because Geno stated that it was the first time he drew up a play to isolate a player. Not to leave out the men, “it’s late, it’s Tate, it’s great”. We have also lost games in the same manner. Remember Victoria Vivians and Christian Laettner
 
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Did not see the game but looking at the scoring timeline why didn't Indiana try to miss the FT with 1 sec left?
I watched the game and thought the exact same thing. I guess in a game like that where every point counts, that plan of action was just contradictory to everyone's basic thought process. Also, if Iowa got the rebound cleanly and called a timeout, a simple bucket would have beaten them. C.Clark factors into that decision.
 
Weren’t seasons shorter too?

Not only were they shorter (LSU averaged about 28 games per year), but the 3 point shot wasn't in play at that time. He averaged 40 shots per game with a mid-40's percentage. He AVERAGED 44 points in his three years at LSU, and probably would have been over 50 PPG with the three pointer. Sadly, only one post-season appearance, as a senior in the NIT. There were only 16 teams in the NCAA's back then, almost all of which were conference winners. Some said NIT meant "Not In Tournament."
 
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