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DogMania said:
I agree, IBB. Between the two, adding the big, Stone, fills the greater need since we'll still have a lot of talented guards on the team in 2015/16.

Also, elite freshman guards that teams heavily rely on tend to shoot their team out of tournament at some point along the way. For that reason if we're going to add a one or even two-and-done type player, I'd prefer it to be a big than a guard. Bigs don't have the ball in their hands nearly as much as the guards, so the issue where an elite player is trying to showcase his abilities to gain some NBA Draft traction, is less damaging from a Big than it is from a guard.

UConn is not going to attract the type of elite recruit that expects to be playing 35 to 40 minutes right out of the chute. But if a guard like Newman is willing to work hard and compete for PT with a bunch of other talented guards, UConn would be a great destination. No matter how good he is, KO is going to give guards such as Purvis, Samuel, Cassell and even Calhoun (if he bounces back), PT if they prove they can be productive. UConn will never be like UK where the Squid will give most of the PT to his favored freshman.

Bottom line, Experience usually wins out, assuming the talent is there. I'd love to see KO recruit the right mix of talent, most who will stick around 3 to 4 years. I'm okay with one or two short-timers, but based on what I've witnessed since I've been following college hoops, rarely does a team led by a freshman PG and/or backcourt have the maturity to be the last team standing.
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I think this board too often labels highly ranked recruits as entitled or lazy, when a kid's recruiting ranking has little to do with how good a kid someone is. Not saying that's what you're necessarily saying here, but I've seen that notion bandied about on here in the past. UConn's had a few bad apples who were highly ranked, and a few that weren't highly ranked. I don't think it really matters. In fact, almost all of the recent "one and done" players in years past have been lauded as being good kids who work hard and are good teammates.

But I totally agree with your point about freshmen point guards. Unless you have an incredible talent like Anthony Davis or Carmelo Anthony, freshmen PG's just don't win in March.
 
I'm tired of all this Newman and Stone talk.
I'll be Stunned, Shocked, and Awed..
If they Both don't wind up in Kentucky.

I would be absolutely THRILLED, to have them Both at Uconn.
I just don't see it ever happening.
 
Anyone else's stomach do a backflip at the 20 minutes tweet? That can't be a coincidence! The mojo is strong! ;)
 
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mauconnfan said:
You know what's funny is I just got home from the Yankee game tonight and people kept telling me the "Yanks will get another hit in 20 minutes…."
Damn they lied…….
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That's like waiting for only 3 at bats. A high risk call there.
 
These package deals seem to fall apart as time goes on. I don't have any information at all but my prediction is Newman to Kentucky and UConn has about a 50% chance to land Stone. Wisconsin could end up being our biggest hurdle for Stone.
 
Danzz said:
These package deals seem to fall apart as time goes on. I don't have any information at all but my prediction is Newman to Kentucky and UConn has about a 50% chance to land Stone. Wisconsin could end up being our biggest hurdle for Stone.
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Would really suck to lose a top 5 recruit to Wisconsin. Don't know why, but something about that just doesn't sit right for me.
 
mauconnfan said:
You know what's funny is I just got home from the Yankee game tonight and people kept telling me the "Yanks will get another hit in 20 minutes…."

Damn they lied…….
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You needed Poppy in the lineup. 2 HRs last night and he was certified drug free by the Sox team doctor.:)
 
Danzz said:
You needed Poppy in the lineup. 2 HRs last night and he was certified drug free by the Sox team doctor.:)
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Everybody homered last night. Everybody hit. Except Pedroia.

If Pedey and Papi get going along with all the kids, this could be a good team.
 
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intlzncster said:
Would really suck to lose a top 5 recruit to Wisconsin. Don't know why, but something about that just doesn't sit right for me.
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Wisconsin is great school. On a beautiful lake, outstanding academics , incredible bar scene and social life. The advantage UConn has is basketball but every other category Wisconsin easily trumps us.
 
Danzz said:
Wisconsin is great school. On a beautiful lake, outstanding academics , incredible bar scene and social life. The advantage UConn has is basketball but every other category Wisconsin easily trumps us.
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I'm talking about rep and standing as a basketball school. And we have a better practice facility. At least I hope we do.
 
Danzz said:
Wisconsin is great school. On a beautiful lake, outstanding academics , incredible bar scene and social life. The advantage UConn has is basketball but every other category Wisconsin easily trumps us.
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And Stone is from there of course...now losing Enoch to a school like Wisconsin would really sting
 
Ollie doesn't need to have top elite guards on his team. There are so many good ones out there,

He is the ultimate makeup kit.
 
Kitaman said:
Ollie doesn't need to have top elite guards on his team. There are so many good ones out there,

He is the ultimate makeup kit.
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Yeah but, it helps. (cough) Shabazz....(cough) Boatright
 
intlzncster said:
Yeah but, it helps. (cough) Shabazz....(cough) Boatright
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That's what i was thinking. We had the best guard in the country and possible the best back court in the entire country. I believe that qualifies as "elite".
 
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CAHUSKY said:
That's what i was thinking. We had the best guard in the country and possible the best back court in the entire country. I believe that qualifies as "elite".
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I think he means elite out of high school. Bazz and Boat were both really good out of high school and we were lucky enough to have them here for 4 years to develop into elite.
 
CAHUSKY said:
That's what i was thinking. We had the best guard in the country and possible the best back court in the entire country. I believe that qualifies as "elite".[/QUOTE

Sorry. Meant recruits.
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coloradohusky said:
(Cough) Kemba...(cough) Ben Gordon...(cough) Mr. Shock the world, Khalid (yes, I know they were Calhoun, but all 4 ships were led by elite guards.
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No doubt. I'm still delirious from the last title, and can't focus enough to look back that far.
 
coloradohusky said:
(Cough) Kemba...(cough) Ben Gordon...(cough) Mr. Shock the world, Khalid (yes, I know they were Calhoun, but all 4 ships were led by elite guards.
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Khalid and Gordon were great players, but neither was close to the best player on his own team.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Khalid and Gordon were great players, but neither was close to the best player on his own team.
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Okafor was the best player on UConn in 04. But define "close." Gordon was no question the second-best player, and capable of going off for 35 points on a given night. I'd say he was "close" to being the best player on his own team.
 
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CallMeBruce said:
Khalid and Gordon were great players, but neither was close to the best player on his own team.
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Gordon was the "best player" on the team many times that year. He was King of MSG and they won the BE title w/o Okafor and he was brilliant. Emeka was arguably the best player on that team but ben was as close as 2nd fiddle as you can get I think.
 
Inyatkin said:
Okafor was the best player on UConn in 04. But define "close." Gordon was no question the second-best player, and capable of going off for 35 points on a given night. I'd say he was "close" to being the best player on his own team.
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Okafor was worth about 10 wins in 2004. Gordon was worth about 7. The difference between Okafor's value and Gordon's value was nearly identical to the difference between Gordon's value and Rashad Anderson's value. Gordon was really good that year, and probably the best #2 player UConn has ever had, but Okafor's season in 2004 is in the conversation for best UConn season ever. They weren't very close.
 
All I know is that Josh Boone played like a man possessed in March. And then...
 
CallMeBruce said:
Okafor was worth about 10 wins in 2004. Gordon was worth about 7. The difference between Okafor's value and Gordon's value was nearly identical to the difference between Gordon's value and Rashad Anderson's value. Gordon was really good that year, and probably the best #2 player UConn has ever had, but Okafor's season in 2004 is in the conversation for best UConn season ever. They weren't very close.
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That's nuts. Okafor was the #2 player taken in the draft and Gordon was #3. Gordon absolutely dominated the BET and was spectacular in the NCAA tourney. You lose all credibility by saying Oak was to Gordon as Gordon was to Rashad. It leads me to believe you may not be old enough to remember the 04 season or are so old your memory is going.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Okafor was worth about 10 wins in 2004. Gordon was worth about 7. The difference between Okafor's value and Gordon's value was nearly identical to the difference between Gordon's value and Rashad Anderson's value. Gordon was really good that year, and probably the best #2 player UConn has ever had, but Okafor's season in 2004 is in the conversation for best UConn season ever. They weren't very close.
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True, but it wasn't a massive gulf between the two. It was closer than you are saying. Okafor definitely ahead though.

I personally think Oak is in the top 3 all time at UCONN. Ray Oak and Kemba for me (I know it's diff for everybody). But there's a reason when JC lists off the best players all time at UCONN, he includes "Ben" every time.
 
CAHUSKY said:
That's nuts. Okafor was the #2 player taken in the draft and Gordon was #3. Gordon absolutely dominated the BET and was spectacular in the NCAA tourney. You lose all credibility by saying Oak was to Gordon as Gordon was to Rashad. It leads me to believe you may not be old enough to remember the 04 season or are so old your memory is going.
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I don't think Bruce is THAT young.
 
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