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MountainMan said:
LOl. You and Matt just love playing the offended victim.

I looked at the list and gathered that most p-5 programs committed to football seem to pay in the 2-2.5 million $ range. I never once mentioned Uconn. Never.

In fact if you look at total salary UConn is very close to 2 million so I have no idea why you are even upset. But you are.
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LOL.

*Says stuff*

*Called out for stuff said*

"Nope never said those things."

You're the kid holding the chocolate ice cream cone with fresh drops all over the white furniture swearing he didn't do it.
 
Dooley said:
Okay great, we are in agreement then: UConn has made the necessary commitment to P5 football. I'm not upset as long as we both agree, which it appears we do. No worries, Mountains.
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LOL. I never said that either.
 
MattMang23 said:
LOL.

*Says stuff*

*Called out for stuff said*

"Nope never said those things."

You're the kid holding the chocolate ice cream cone with fresh drops all over the white furniture swearing he didn't do it.
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You sir are 100% drama queen. Keep up the fine work. LOL.
 
VPDcurt said:
You're right. I should start acting like all of the dedicated UConn fans here and continue to blame BC, Syracuse, BYU, Pitt, Louisville, et al. It's sad. Until we hand P5s a product they can't refuse, we have no one else to blame. The complacency here is puzzling to say the least; moreover, its combination with victimization is troubling.
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Do you even understand that there is NOTHING we can do to make a P5 conference invite us? NOTHING. HCBD wasn't my choice 3 years ago (I wanted Narduzzi), but we still haven't seen yours. Whom should we have offered who would have taken the job?

Since you brought the word moron up, may I suggest you make a commitment to a mirror in your house.
 
MountainMan said:
You sir are 100% drama queen. Keep up the fine work. LOL.
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I think it's time you get lost. Either contribute to CR discussion or get lost.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Do you even understand that there is NOTHING we can do to make a P5 conference invite us? NOTHING. HCBD wasn't my choice 3 years ago (I wanted Narduzzi), but we still haven't seen yours. Whom should we have offered who would have taken the job?.
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Oh he never said. He also never said that he never said that. In fact, this dude has about 120 messages of saying absolutely nothing.
 
businesslawyer said:
Do you even understand that there is NOTHING we can do to make a P5 conference invite us? NOTHING.
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This is a prime example of learned helplessness. Too early for that. Way too early.
 
VPDcurt said:
This is a prime example of learned helplessness. Too early for that. Way too early.
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Oh, my apologies then. We can force a P-5 conference to invite us. Great news. So, Einstein, please inform all of us lesser lights:

1. Whom we should have offered our coaching job to last time around; and

2. Could you please inform us what accomplishments force a P5 conference to invite us and thus guaranty us a slot?
 
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MountainMan said:
I interpret that list a little differently. Cincinnati has made a commitment to pay p-5 money for a football coach at over 2 million. Houston has a 5 million $ bonus if Herman gets them in a p-5. Houston AD: Herman gets $5M if we go Power 5

Looking at the list it would seem that for the most part somewhere in the 2-2.5 million $ range is the minimum commitment as far as coaches salaries for p-5 football.
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Herman will be gone long before he ever earns that money at Houston. He won't stay there.

Diaco is paid well enough. If you look at the list, young coaches don't get paid as much until their second or third stop. Diaco is a first time HC so won't make as much. But if he can win here, somebody else will offer him $2.5-$3M. Is he then an appropriate P5 hire in your view?

Diaco is a great ambassador. He looks like a solid program builder to me. He's a decent recruiter. He's still got issues as a game coach, but that's the easiest part of the job. He's certainly not a failure.
 
KU went cheap because they were paying off the previous two coaches, who they paid 2.5 million a year each.
 
VPDcurt said:
If we are left out it will be because of our own football program. It's easier to point fingers at others, but we only have ourselves to blame. We have had years to make substantial improvements (i.e. hire a big name coach - would've been worth the money in the long run) and we have not done so.
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Diaco was a pretty big hire. Not sure who you thought was coming to Uconn, but snagging a def. coordinator from ND on paper was a decent hire. And while people may complain about the style and the way in which his team is winning, they are winning. And the kids are playing for him.
 
Best thread ever
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MountainMan said:
I interpret that list a little differently. Cincinnati has made a commitment to pay p-5 money for a football coach at over 2 million. Houston has a 5 million $ bonus if Herman gets them in a p-5. Houston AD: Herman gets $5M if we go Power 5

Looking at the list it would seem that for the most part somewhere in the 2-2.5 million $ range is the minimum commitment as far as coaches salaries for p-5 football.
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The School Presidents vote on the invites. You should start from the premise that just about all of these School Presidents are of the shared opinion that ALL these football Head Coaches are vastly overpaid with their school's payout to all these Head Coaches. As such, what a school decides to pay its football coaches will be a total nonfactor with these School Presidents on what schools ultimately get an invite to all these athletic leagues, and who does not. What WILL matter to these School Presidents is how much money they believe their School will receive in any decision they will ultimately make.
 
Yawkey Way said:
The School Presidents vote on the invites. You should start from the premise that just about all of these School Presidents are of the shared opinion that ALL these football Head Coaches are vastly overpaid with their school's payout to all these Head Coaches. As such, what a school decides to pay its football coaches will be a total nonfactor with these School Presidents on what schools ultimately get an invite to all these athletic leagues, and who does not. What WILL matter to these School Presidents is how much money they believe their School will receive in any decision they will ultimately make.
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Yawkey, I usually don't agree with you, but I think you nailed it here.
 
Dooley said:
I think it's time you get lost. Either contribute to CR discussion or get lost.
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Ho Ironic. Actually I am the one acting like an adult while giving my opinion as well as facts relevant to the discussion.

I actually was really impressed with the resume you built up for UConn but am surprised that you are acting like this. Just stop with all the butthurt and have a realistic discussion.

You an Matt do the same thing over and over all day. If anyone has a different opinion than yo do you attack and then tell them to leave. Stop being so insecure or at least hide it better.

What do you think is the minimum investment a football program should make in it's coach?
 
dr.holiday said:
KU went cheap because they were paying off the previous two coaches, who they paid 2.5 million a year each.
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They seem to be getting exactly what they paid for this time around which is better than paying big money for crap results like they did the last 2.
 
Dooley said:
Okay, so you are actually saying nothing and just wasting everyone's time. Why are you here again?
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LOL. You need to stop making things up as the posts are right there for everyone to read so they can tell you are wrong almost immediately. I get the feeling that you act like this toward anyone who doesn't share your opinion. Reeks of insecurity.

Maybe you should just put me on ignore so you can spend more time getting upset and playing the victim with somebody else as playing this game with me is not working out well for you.

I used to have some respect for you as I was impressed with you spending time to put together a resume of accomplishments. But now I see you are just like the rest of the whiners.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Herman will be gone long before he ever earns that money at Houston. He won't stay there.

Diaco is paid well enough. If you look at the list, young coaches don't get paid as much until their second or third stop. Diaco is a first time HC so won't make as much. But if he can win here, somebody else will offer him $2.5-$3M. Is he then an appropriate P5 hire in your view?

Diaco is a great ambassador. He looks like a solid program builder to me. He's a decent recruiter. He's still got issues as a game coach, but that's the easiest part of the job. He's certainly not a failure.
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I'm not so sure about that but if he does leave I'm sure Houston can find a replacement just like they did when all the other great coaches they had left like Briles, Sumlin, Holgerson, etc...

I think there are boosters at Houston who will write him 7 figure checks to keep tim there. He is a smart guy and if Houston gets into the Big 12 I could see him staying there as there really wouldn't be a reason to leave. Houston has proven to be a pretty goo coaching gig over the years and going to UT or LSU will certainly have a downside.

I agree that Diaco is a good fit for UConn. He is young and successful but not so much that other programs will be trying to take him, yet. But when he does have a successful season its' going to be tough to keep him IMO as he can probably double his salary pretty easily by moving at that point.

I never said Diaco wasn't' an appropriate hire nor did I say he was a failure. You just keep making stuff up. LOL. Stop already
 
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MountainMan said:
What do you think is the minimum investment a football program should make in it's coach?
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It's a silly question, a school should, of course, pay as little as it can for the coach it wants. UConn hired a Broyles winning, first time, head coach for 1.5; A roll of the dice for the school but if he performs he'll get paid. He already got an extension, one we may end up regretting, for getting to a low-level bowl game at 6-6 -- probably a reflection of how far we had fallen under the previous staff.
MountainMan said:
They seem to be getting exactly what they paid for this time around which is better than paying big money for crap results like they did the last 2.
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Yet your argument is that they were a more committed program when they were overpaying for the same performance?
 
MountainMan said:
You an Matt do the same thing over and over all day. If anyone has a different opinion than yo do you attack and then tell them to leave. Stop being so insecure or at least hide it better.
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This is spot on
 
MountainMan said:
I never said Diaco wasn't' an appropriate hire nor did I say he was a failure. You just keep making stuff up. LOL. Stop already
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It's somewhat of an art form to make clear, unambiguous disparaging inferences while preserving deniability by avoiding detailed references. I mean I'm not saying that that is what you're doing here... I'm just sayin.
 
Yawkey Way said:
What WILL matter to these School Presidents is how much money they believe their School will receive in any decision they will ultimately make.
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Wait so you're saying it's all about money?!!!
 
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