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You really need the guy who has the ball in his hands to have an ability to hit 3-5 three's so that you can open up the floor.

Also having a specialist--a guy who can hit a three set a pick get boards make a quality pass--etc...a high iQ guy--we dont have that this year. We have too many guys who need the ball.
 
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A very good post actually. We need shooters badly. Crazy that we didn't put the full court press on Waters. KO needs to get more shooters in the back court. MAL isn't a shooter either, neither is Diallo. We need putting the ball in the basket to take on more importance in recruiting.
 
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I agree with scrappy, we don't have any glue guys or role players with a high basketball iq that bring a non-scoring skillset such as screening, rebounding, etc. Tyler Olander is a prime example. Say what you want about his talent level, but he rebounded and set good screens... and started on the 2011 NC team for that reason.

KO needs to think about skillsets and balance when recruiting. Not just the number of stars next to their names.
 
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Jackson is the only shooter that Ollie has brought in. We need guards/small forwards that can either hit the 3 and/or create for themselves and are able to finish with a 12-18 footer. There are no Napiers on this team to bale out our putrid half court offensive. I was hoping that Adams would have improved his shooting touch from last year but I haven't seen that yet despite his solid performance against NE. I'm hoping he will show that as they year goes on because somebody needs to step up as an offensive leader.
 
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We could really use a guy like Niels
Our shooters are not that bad. With no inside scoring, teams can concentrate on limiting open looks from outside. Miller was more valuable than his scoring/rebounding because he contributed to higher % shots for Purvis, Gibbs, and Hamilton.
 
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We can't get out in transition because we don't have bigs that rebound, that's the real problem. Our offense would be a lot better if it got an easy bucket sometimes and wasn't operating in the half court the entire game.
 

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I think Vance Jackson can be the glue guy we need. Terry, Jalen and Alterique generally make good decisions. Purvis, Brimah, Facey (all seniors, ugh) seem to be the most fragile with the ball.
 
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Purvis was supposed to be canning 3's, but I still think Jalen can make them. Gilbert, not so sure. Vital supposedly? Last night Monk on Kentucky made 7, they are critical in today's game, especially when there's no inside scoring from bigs.
 
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Screw all that

Give me 5 people that know their roll and a coach that knows what buttons to press.

Roles in basketball is key. Just do your job and play for the name on the front.
 
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Niels was not Niels until his senior year.

Also, Niels would be welcome on this team because of his versatility and toughness. As a shooter, he hit a high percentage but if you're going to tell me you ever saw him come flying around a screen and hit a contested three you'd be lying. He was a very good standstill, give him room and he'll hit it type shooter at the end of his career.
 
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Quite frankly, not great shooters but as big a problem is lack of ball movement and positioning to get good looks. Seems like too much NBA isolation or 2 on 2 without the talent to pull it off. I like Gilbert but he can't shoot - if he had a couple shooters he could penetrate and kick.
As someone said - can't fast break if the opponent doesn't miss shots or we don't rebound.
 

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Also, Niels would be welcome on this team because of his versatility and toughness. As a shooter, he hit a high percentage but if you're going to tell me you ever saw him come flying around a screen and hit a contested three you'd be lying. He was a very good standstill, give him room and he'll hit it type shooter at the end of his career.
I know his shooting was a big plus for the 2014 team, but I think the key for Niels was when he just seemed to go "beast mode" as funny as that might sound in relation to Niels. In the NCAA's that year, he played physically tough on defense and rebounded like somebody who was 3 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier.

I wonder if there is anybody who could do something like that this year? Probably not. I would love to see Vance start to bang inside, perhaps he could find an inner Caron of sorts.
 
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I know his shooting was a big plus for the 2014 team, but I think the key for Niels was when he just seemed to go "beast mode" as funny as that might sound in relation to Niels. In the NCAA's that year, he played physically tough on defense and rebounded like somebody who was 3 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier.

I wonder if there is anybody who could do something like that this year? Probably not. I would love to see Vance start to bang inside, perhaps he could find an inner Caron of sorts.

Wish I did but I don't see that inner Caron comparison. I think Jackson can shoot - but Tough Juice - I wish but don't see it.
 
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Of our three top guards and Larrier, none of them are particularly good shooters and all of their offensive games revolve around getting to the rim. Add on top of that the fact that our starting 5's only consistent offense is catching lobs - which requires him to stand in, and clog up, the lane - our offensive plan is:
1. have a guard slashing into the paint
2. ???
Too many times Purvis, Gilbert, and Adams especially get caught in that empty pocket of no man's land six feet out from the basket and throw up that little in between a lay up and a runner thing that drives me nuts. We need better movement off the ball, and at this point Gilbert and Adams especially need to just keep shooting the three, because defenses have already clued into the fact that they're not taking shots from downtown and we're only two games in
 

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Wish I did but I don't see that inner Caron comparison. I think Jackson can shoot - but Tough Juice - I wish but don't see it.
I don't either, yet. I didn't see it at all in Niels, but he got some of it on his way out. Maybe Vance can find some. Or Larrier, for that matter.
 
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Nobody wants to share the ball - I don't think so much hero ball - as trying to get minutes. That's why I am not a huge depth guy. Eight is enough.
 
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Niels was guarding the 5 on D when needed by 2014, and doing it physically. As Crack said he was the versatile kind of "smart" basketball player this team is missing and desperately needs. As of now I hate to admit, and it may be too early to concede, but this is not a very smart team. (I don't mean this in any other way than basketball, good kids and intelligent but this doesn't always translate to the court). We already knew our bigs were slow regarding this and they seem to have kept that, but the overall feel seems to be consistent. Need JA to step up and make plays but also make better decisions. He throws too many "cut the mustard" passes, or attempts to shall I say, which never get to the intended target. And on defense it's just people running around trying to make plays way too often rather than guarding their man. They seem to think the are Nadav Henefeld in their anticipation and have come up short creating a fire drill amongst the other 4.

It's ugly on both ends of the floor, no flow. Needs to change beginning in about 16 hours.
 

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Ball movement and movement by the players off the ball. That's what we need. It isn't a shooting problem, we have shooters. They can't get open because they are a bunch of statues standing around the perimeter passing the ball back and forth, until someone decides to go one on three and hoist up a contested shot. That's the offense right now, and really for most of last year too.
 
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The way our offense is setup is to maximize spacing. Larrier and Purvis will often go wide to the corners to free up driving lanes for Adams/Gilbert when the bigs come for the pick and roll. Ideally, when the PG drives, he forces the other bigs man to help to him and he can either pass to that big (often lob) or if the defense rotates to cover by having the corner defender come down, he finds the corner man for an open corner 3. This is against man-to-man obviously.

We've gotten plenty of fairly open 3's, but we're shooting 27.5% as a team. Yes, that is abysmal.
 
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