I'm not down. UConn fans should look forward to a good conference...

[upstater]

Could you be a stupider . THEY DONT HAVE ACCESS TO THE FOUR TEAM PLAYOFF.

You are off your meds. You can't read now. And I know why. You don't want to read what I wrote. First, they do have access to the playoff, so you're wrong on that. second, I wrote they have access to the Fiesta Bowl. They do. Only a stupid idiot would counter that.

 

[whaler11]

You are off your meds. You can't read now. And I know why. You don't want to read what I wrote. First, they do have access to the playoff, so you're wrong on that. second, I wrote they have access to the Fiesta Bowl. They do. Only a stupid idiot would counter that.

No one has countered that the five small conference don't have access for one team to a bigger bowl. Who gives a about access for one team of 60 to the Fiesta Bowl when all there is a playoff.

They have access on paper to the playoff, in practice they don't. None.

 

[upstater]

No one has countered that the five small conference don't have access for one team to a bigger bowl. Who gives a about access for one team of 60 to the Fiesta Bowl when all there is a playoff.

They have access on paper to the playoff, in practice they don't. None.

Wow, the stupidity gets stupider.

My whole point about Boise was in response to someone who claimed that UConn can't play a team like Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. That's what this has been about from the start.

I've mentioned that to you 8 times.

Can you read?

As I already wrote, the question of the playoff is just a sideshow in all of this.

How could you have possibly have missed that?

 

[Calhoun's Court]

Let's not confuse things. The question I was responding to was whether an opportunity to rise like Boise still exists today. It has nothing to do with Boise's name recognition. I mean, Boise came out of the blue (pardon the pun).

Gotcha.

 

[whaler11]

Wow, the stupidity gets stupider.

My whole point about Boise was in response to someone who claimed that UConn can't play a team like Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. That's what this has been about from the start.

I've mentioned that to you 8 times.

Can you read?

As I already wrote, the question of the playoff is just a sideshow in all of this.

How could you have possibly have missed that?

I have never once said that a Big East team can't play a good team in one of the Access Bowls.

They don't have real access to the playoff and that is what matters.

 

[upstater]

I have never once said that a Big East team can't play a good team in one of the Access Bowls.

They don't have real access to the playoff and that is what matters.

Whale22 said: ↑

Boise State created that brand by getting access to the big game and beating Oklahoma in arguably one of the most exciting bowl games ever. That access will no longer exist. We are used as an excuse for why that system no longer exists. Call it fate or whatever you want but they took advantage of that access, for whatever the reason it backfired on us.

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Upstater

That access will exist. You just have to win your games.

Whaler11

Uh no they won't be in the playoff. One will get an invite to a decent bowl.

Upstater:

The playoff selections will hew close to an RPI type index. If you look at the past decade, undefeated teams like Boise St. would have qualified in the top 4 of such an index. What you need then is a reason for excluding a team like Boise despite their ranking. But regardless, even if they're not in the playoff, they will still have the same opportunity Boise did, which is a big bowl game against top competition.

 

[uconnell]

Forgetting your ESPN fetish for a bit, I don't see the ACC losing FSU and/or Miami without a Florida replacement. UCF or USF are both up and comers with money. Give them an ACC contract and they could easily fill a regional void. I keep harping on RayCom and Ohio as a recruiting move and a production move and a network placement move that potentially out maneuvers UConn given RayCom's 3 stations in Ohio (Cincy, Cleveland, Toledo). RayCom has no presence in NYC or CT and apparently doesn't care to compete at that level. They have two in Florida and are in the market for more.

Isn't RayCom hooked up with the ACC and Swofford's son? I live in SE CT and I get NECN and NESN , which shows ACC games and some UConn games. NECN also reports some CT news. We've had them for quite sometime. No I don't have a point.

 

[whaler11]

Whale22 said: ↑

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Upstater

Whaler11

Upstater:

So I agreed they still have bowl access. Much less but it exists. Those bowls are even less important with a playoff, so that little access is even less valuable.

 

[upstater]

So I agreed they still have bowl access. Much less but it exists. Those bowls are even less important with a playoff, so that little access is even less valuable.

How is it more or less valuable? The Fiesta is the Fiesta. Either way, it doesn't decide the championship. Oklahoma, for instance, was ranked 7th the year Boise played them. Either way, it was irrelevant.

Much less? Boise came out of the WAC and had to deal with one conference, the BE, having an autobid that took opportunities away from the non-BCS schools.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Bowl access is the tip of the iceberg. The Big EAst champion, in the entire history of the conference, has never had a contract bowl home. It still doesn't. What This is a problem that the conference needs to address.

The access - is to the revenue sharing system, not to any particular game. It's about money, and always has been. This is the cartel of the current decade. The college football POST season revenue sharing around scheduling of games.

The cartel in the 80's-early 90s was built around the television broadcasting revenue sharing of the regular season scheduling of games. The bowl system took over, with the evolution of the Bowl Alliance system, which involved the creation of the Big EAst football conference, evolving into the BCS, which is now evolving into a pseudo-playoff.

What the current system of quote/unquote "access" to the bowl system entails - with a group of conferences all having automatic appearances, adn another group of conferences all vying for a limited access - is an accurate reflection of the revenue sharing plan for the college football post-season. the cartel is no longer the CFA, it's the loose group of conferences, that are bound together by post season contracts for game.

THat cartel has price fixed what their games are worth, and what the other games are worth, based on the total of what they are taking in from ESPN for the post season.

 

[whaler11]

How is it more or less valuable? The Fiesta is the Fiesta. Either way, it doesn't decide the championship. Oklahoma, for instance, was ranked 7th the year Boise played them. Either way, it was irrelevant.

Much less? Boise came out of the WAC and had to deal with one conference, the BE, having an autobid that took opportunities away from the non-BCS schools.

It's less valuable because with a playoff in place even fewer people will care about bowls. It's less access for the very reason you state. Now the Big East teams are competing for the same bid - the Big East's auto bid helped non BCS teams because their potential low ranking unlocked the top 16 piece. See this year and Northern Illinois.

Had UConn not beaten Louisville does N. Ill qualify?

 

[upstater]

It's less valuable because with a playoff in place even fewer people will care about bowls. It's less access for the very reason you state. Now the Big East teams are competing for the same bid - the Big East's auto bid helped non BCS teams because their potential low ranking unlocked the top 16 piece. See this year and Northern Illinois.

Had UConn not beaten Louisville does N. Ill qualify?

I wasn't arguing that UConn had more access. I was saying they have as much access as Boise did years ago. Big difference.

 

[whaler11]

I wasn't arguing that UConn had more access. I was saying they have as much access as Boise did years ago. Big difference.

If that is your argument it's probably close. That access is still less valuable than it used to be, and UConn and the Big East schools are probably at a disadvantage since it's harder to go undefeated in the Big East still and they will get no credit for a tougher schedule than MW.