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LoyalFanCT said:
Cincinnati Temple and Navy are not located in the South, the last time I checked. If the trio got UMass, UConn, Army and Buffalo to join and maybe Ohio University -- would things have been better for UConn?
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Are you defending the AAC?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Are you defending the AAC?
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The AAC is trash, but our controllable moves have been self inflicted damage. Yes AAC limits our ability to recover from mistakes.

We should have been near the top of the AAC for both Basketball and Football. The school in general has failed to deliver.

Even if they had not failed, Football Independence and the Big East is probably the right call.

If we had a winning football team and we left the AAC that move would have been perceived entirely in a different way.
 
FartMan69 said:
Lmao. Bookmark this thread for halfway through next season. This board is 0 for life when defending bad coaches. I remember the Diaco and Ollie ships sinking and the same stoodges holding on for dear life.
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It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. Hiring Paqualoni was idiotic but almost every school makes a bad hire and moves on, getting tricked by the clown Diaco and waiting to pull the plug was close to unforgivable, hiring back the snake and not pulling the plug is just cruel and unusual punishment. Some people are just gluttons for punishment...I had half the bball board calling me an idiot for saying Ollie is a disaster and there was no rock bottom with him. If it was up to them Ollie would still be in Storrs.
 
noeynox said:
I'll say this here as well. If schools like Buffalo, Old Dominion and Coastal Carolina can play FBS football and UConn can't then the people running UConn really suck.

Want fans in the stand you can't be a total waste of time. There has to be hope for a win and at minimum you have show competency which hasn't been seen in a few years.
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But if you go back to when hoops is winning national championships and we are going to Fiesta Bowls the donor count is like 3,000. Unlike many other schools, the UCONN Fan base says - "It's good enough to buy tickets and merch" and then wonders why money is an issue.
 
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J187Money said:
But if you go back to when hoops is winning national championships and we are going to Fiesta Bowls the donor count is like 3,000. Unlike many other schools, the UCONN Fan base says - "It's good enough to buy tickets and merch" and then wonders why money is an issue.
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Money is an issue because we suck. Filling the stadium six times a year is somewhere north of $6M a year. Figure our broadcast rights are worth another million and there is entire current deficit. That's before concessions, merchandising and the marketing value of not being a sheetshow.
 
Head Coach Vineyard Vines. Used by someone here after he showed up on the sideline for a game wearing what in Greenwich is called Nantucket Red, and in the rest of the civilized world is called pink, pants.
 
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I think BL has a perfectly reasonable take here. There is no clear best alternative. He stays, he goes, whatever. Either of those are a crap-shoot in terms of which would yield better results. As coaches were being fired recently I put forth that it was possible (worth checking at least) that a clear upgrade who was let go might come here. AD needs to at least kick the tires on that. Can't decide on stay or go unless you understand your best alternatives.

That said, 19 kids in the transfer portal. Benedict's staff has to exit interview every one of them and get to the root of why they are going. If it is because they are tired or losing or don't play enough, ok fine. If it's Randy, then we may need to address whether he can be a head coach in 2020 and beyond. The AD must get that data to help decide.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think BL has a perfectly reasonable take here. There is no clear best alternative. He stays, he goes, whatever. Either of those are a crap-shoot in terms of which would yield better results. As coaches were being fired recently I put forth that it was possible (worth checking at least) that a clear upgrade who was let go might come here. AD needs to at least kick the tires on that. Can't decide on stay or go unless you understand your best alternatives.

That said, 19 kids in the transfer portal. Benedict's staff has to exit interview every one of them and get to the root of why they are going. If it is because they are tired or losing or don't play enough, ok fine. If it's Randy, then we may need to address whether he can be a head coach in 2020 and beyond. The AD must get that data to help decide.
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Not that I know anything, but I'd be shocked if DB doesn't have an accurate handle on the mood of the departing players, as well as those staying. Therefore, in my mind, he got data, considered it, and decided to publically state Randy has at least two more years.
 
CL82 said:
Money is an issue because we suck. Filling the stadium six times a year is somewhere north of $6M a year. Figure our broadcast rights are worth another million and there is entire current deficit. That's before concessions, merchandising and the marketing value of not being a sheetshow.
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Missing the point - nobody donated to the school when both programs were at their top. UCONN is in the situation that they are in financially in part because state support has dried up and the attitude of the fan base is "It's not my problem".

Hurley can go out and win a NC next year - and we won't add many donors to the rolls.

When we were selling 40,000 tickets per game - less than 10% of those that were going to football games gave any money to the athletic department. I'm not questioning any individual's decision to give or not give, but as a whole - this is a pretty poor ratio.
 
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Why do we have such limited funds?

It's simpler than that. Poor alumni relations. They don't do a good job at keeping normal people in the loop and do a horrible job cultivating relationships with the whales.
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one of my prior posts on the subject.

There are more members to the boneyard than there are donors to the athletic department...
 
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ZooCougar said:
Sorry but by any reasonable measure that’s not meaningful progress.

How many Edsall recruits made one of the three All AAC teams?
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By the way, five people besides me seemed to think it was. You think there's a chance that almost all home games being competitive again is progress for -- I don't know -- those of us who still actually buy tickets and get our butts into seats for games?
 
businesslawyer said:
By the way, five people besides me seemed to think it was. You think there's a chance that almost all home games being competitive again is progress for -- I don't know -- those of us who still actually buy tickets and get our butts into seats for games?
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I think it was. I missed games to watch my son run, but definitely had more fun at the games this year. I expect it to be better next year. At this stage - I just want consistent improvement.
 
LOL. I wasn't going to call you out. I don't badmouth folks who can't come to home games, and I don't in any way doubt Wisky's fandom. But I'm not a big fan on someone who didn't sit through the '18 season telling me it doesn't matter that the home games in '19 were fun again.
 
businesslawyer said:
LOL. I wasn't going to call you out. I don't badmouth folks who can't come to home games, and I don't in any way doubt Wisky's fandom. But I'm not a big fan on someone who didn't sit through the '18 season telling me it doesn't matter that the home games in '19 were fun again.
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I was just agreeing - didn't think you were calling me out. Admittedly coming off of historic lows, but games were 2/3x more fun this year.
 
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People saw progress? You can't even count barely squeaking by an 1-11 FCS team, and beating the worst FBS team of all time in UMass as indicative of anything.

In 2018 we played close games against FBS team in USF, UMass, SMU
In 2019 we played close games against FBS teams in ECU, Houston, and Illinios

But, since those 3 games in 2019 were at home, we should defer any expectations another year?
 
businesslawyer said:
By the way, five people besides me seemed to think it was. You think there's a chance that almost all home games being competitive again is progress for -- I don't know -- those of us who still actually buy tickets and get our butts into seats for games?
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I can’t debate that. I used to schedule my R&R around home games and fly thousands of miles for games but I’m older and with a family so I don’t enjoy the freedom of movement that I once did.

So don’t discount the impact of the UConn fandom diaspora. When I used to hit 2-

That being said, no I still don’t thing it is meaningful in the grand scheme of things.
 
J187Money said:
We had 3,871 donors in 2015-16 - just after winning a NC in hoops. For a school of our size, that is abysmal.
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Are you talking about endowment donors?

If you are, I'm going to say something very controversial; who friggin cares. What I care about are season ticket holders + 3 game ticket holders + single ticket purchasers in all sports. Because you may think that's not real money. I think it's millions.

And when we average 30k+ in football and greater than 10k in basketball, we are making real money. Try to make the argument that winning doesn't increase those numbers. That's the real problem right now...
 
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