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As the AD I wouldn't, nor couldn't do anything. I'd bring Ollie in for a heart to heart and let him know if things don't improve now and I mean now, that this will be his last season at UConn. The only thing that could keep his job is a trip to the NCAA tournament with at least a win.
 
Glastonhusky said:
Buy low(now), sell high.
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Buy low (a coach coming here) and sell high (he wins us another championship and leaves to take over at Duke when Coach K. retires). I'm ok with that.
But more to my point, many folks have been financially ruined by declining stocks and ride them to the bottom because they had hope that things would turn around. Good investors know when to recognize a failed investment (KO) and cut their losses (fire his )....
 
uconnbill said:
As the AD I wouldn't, nor couldn't do anything. I'd bring Ollie in for a heart to heart and let him know if things don't improve now and I mean now, that this will be his last season at UConn. The only thing that could keep his job is a trip to the NCAA tournament with at least a win.
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I hate the easy out of these conference tournaments. I prefer an automatic bid to go to the regular season champ but I know these tourneys are money makers and ratings grabbers and that won't change. A coach and team can suck all year and get bailed out by a good tourney run. With that said, that won't happen to us this year. I'd put our chances of besting Wichita, Cinci etc. in the AAC tourney at about 15%. We couldn't even do it at XL.
 
I’m getting tired of hearing how Adams will be gone. We listened to this with Bazz, Boat and others. In what universe is Jalen Adams a good enough outside shooter? There are plenty of good college guards that will not play in the NBA that can actually shoot. Jalen should stick arund and take the 500-1000 shots per day that he didn’t take this last summer.
 
I would give Ollie until end of the year. Then i would persuade him in no uncertain terms to "take a different job" and make it seem like his decision. Saves face for everyone involved. Keeps his Husky legacy more intact. He's seems like a great person, there have been essentially zero scandals, the apr and graduation rate have been corrected, he's a Husky for life, he deserves this. he just is incredibly in over his head in my opinion.
 
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So I'm watching the UGA-UK game right now (as some of you know, my wife is a Georgia alum yada yada yada).

Amyway, Mark Fox is far from god's gift to coaching but Georgia fans do not have to worry about inbounding the ball.

They run real offensive plays.

Most of all, there's not an overwhelming sense of impending stupidity.

Take it for what it's worth.
 
Guapo said:
So I'm watching the UGA-UK game right now (as some of you know, my wife is a Georgia alum yada yada yada).

Amyway, Mark Fox is far from god's gift to coaching but Georgia fans do not have to worry about inbounding the ball.

They run real offensive plays.

Most of all, there's not an overwhelming sense of impending stupidity.

Take it for what it's worth.
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Also, one-time UConn commit Willie Jackson is a ton better than he was as a freshman. He's averaging 12/2/4 on 47/44/77 shooting splits. I'd forgotten that players are allowed to improve...
 
Glastonhusky said:
I just think that would set us back another 2, probably 3 years. I'd rather see KO work on improving in some areas, get him some help if needed. Chill has proven he can recruit, I like our 2018 class. KO should get this season and next.
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KO has been known to be very stubborn about taking advice. The only way I would even consider keeping him on is if he willingly brings on an offensive coordinator essentially. Without help, trusting him to run a competent offense would truly be the definition of insanity.
 
UConnDan97 said:
I'll say the unpopular opinion.

If I'm the AD, I evaluate the situation after the season is over, whereby the main criteria is "are we better positioned for success now than prior to the season?"

That considers the final record and any post-season performance. That considers recruiting and roster health. That considers development of players. And that also considers expert opinions (no, not ones from the Boneyard). I would be talking to Calhoun, for sure, and other people in the field.

And thankfully, I suspect that Dave Benedict will do all of those things and behave accordingly...
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UConnDan - your approach certainly has some attraction, but I would go in a different direction. I don't like lame ducks. If this losing ugly $#!+ continues, then a mid season change might be necessary. I think keeping a "dead man walking" coach on board is the worst. In addition, we have precious little going for us other then men's BB. If it looks like we have begun to tolerate mediocrity or worse, then we will have yet another hurdle to overcome in any effort to get into a P-5 conference. DB needs to be prepared to move quickly IMO.
 
Sea Goat said:
UConnDan - your approach certainly has some attraction, but I would go in a different direction. I don't like lame ducks. If this losing ugly $#!+ continues, then a mid season change might be necessary. I think keeping a "dead man walking" coach on board is the worst. In addition, we have precious little going for us other then men's BB. If it looks like we have begun to tolerate mediocrity or worse, then we will have yet another hurdle to overcome in any effort to get into a P-5 conference. DB needs to be prepared to move quickly IMO.
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If there is no rational process to how an AD approaches his or her business, then don't expect to attract a top coach here. I'm not saying that Ollie must be afforded the opportunity to finish his contract; that is something that will be sorted out over the next few months or years. But if the process is not performed rationally, there aren't a lot of excellent coaches who want to work underneath a boss that is an emotional "hot head"...
 
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UConnDan97 said:
If there is no rational process to how an AD approaches his or her business, then don't expect to attract a top coach here. I'm not saying that Ollie must be afforded the opportunity to finish his contract; that is something that will be sorted out over the next few months or years. But if the process is not performed rationally, there aren't a lot of excellent coaches who want to work underneath a boss that is an emotional "hot head"...
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Well, at least they'll know what the expectations are when they take the job. They better be prepared to hit the ground running and then not get complacent.
 
UCweCONN said:
Well, at least they'll know what the expectations are when they take the job. They better be prepared to hit the ground running and then not get complacent.
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Everybody in the country knows what the expectations are when they talk about UConn basketball. Throwing a coach out midseason to have his assistants finish the last 18 games without a replacement in hand while your rivals poach your lame duck recruiting class does nothing to change that. All it does is make it a harder job for the next candidate...
 
UConnDan97 said:
Everybody in the country knows what the expectations are when they talk about UConn basketball. Throwing a coach out midseason to have his assistants finish the last 18 games without a replacement in hand while your rivals poach your lame duck recruiting class does nothing to change that. All it does is make it a harder job for the next candidate...
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I actually agree. Firing a coach mid season usually doesn't do much good. It's not like you can announce a new, outside coach halfway through the season and have them take over everything. The only reason you do it is so you can start openly conducting interviews. I'm pretty sure you're not technically allowed to start contacting other coaches about the opening unless the spot is vacant. I could be wrong, though.
 
I would rather go outside of the coaching circle for the next coach if Ollie is let go after the season. None of those names above bring a better result then we are seeing now.
 
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I don't want any failed coaches to come here. The AD needs to hit a home run with this hire and we can't risk it on a guy who's failed in the past. The future of the program is at stake.
 
UCweCONN said:
I don't want any failed coaches to come here. The AD needs to hit a home run with this hire and we can't risk it on a guy who's failed in the past. The future of the program is at stake.
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Every hire is a risk. If not big name who's gotten fired in the past, you get an assistant who you need to learn if they can handle the full job. Or you get a successful head coach at a lower level and you need to know if they can get it done at this level.

Everyone always wants the young guy moving up the ranks because you can always dream we just hired the next legendary coach, but you may also have hired the next Bob Diaco.

Everything should be on the table
 
mauconnfan said:
Looks like an 0-4 to me.

Do better or don't do it. To just fire him to get someone who can't take you to the level expected is ridiculous.
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Agree, 100%. Hurley isn't coming, Donyell isn't ready, and the other two are a lateral move at best. If we are going the MAAC route, why not give Tim Cluess a chance. Atleast he wins.
 
Danzz said:
Would someone tell me what Tom Moore ever accomplished? He was fired from the only HC job he has on his resume.
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I'm pretty sure @Brochacho was suggesting Hurley as HC and the other three guys as his staff. As for what Moore's done in that capacity... "won two national titles" jumps to mind.

I'd be very happy with the quartet listed, though I think an argument could be made for a young, hungry Boston- or NYC-bred recruiter in place of either Moore or Miller.

(It's a pipe dream to imagine Donyell would prefer to be an associate head coach at UConn rather than a full-on head coach somewhere else, but one I intend to keep alive)
 
UCweCONN said:
I also think he has a bunch of yes men on his staff. Kevin Freeman is director of basketball operations. How does he still have a job? I'd love to know what his typical day is like.
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Of course the poster who tried to convince me that Christian Foxen should be receiving regular rotation minutes after the Dec. '15 CCSU game is giving the DBO of a DI team crap. You can't make this place up.
 
jibsey said:
I’m getting tired of hearing how Adams will be gone. We listened to this with Bazz, Boat and others. In what universe is Jalen Adams a good enough outside shooter? There are plenty of good college guards that will not play in the NBA that can actually shoot. Jalen should stick arund and take the 500-1000 shots per day that he didn’t take this last summer.
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All that matters is how good of an outside shooter Adams thinks he is.
 
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Matrim55 said:
Also, one-time UConn commit Willie Jackson is a ton better than he was as a freshman. He's averaging 12/2/4 on 47/44/77 shooting splits. I'd forgotten that players are allowed to improve...
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First two years:

2016-17 UGA 17.5 1.4-4.0 .356 0.8-2.2 .342 0.5-0.7 .708 1.2 1.1 0.2 0.4 1.2 0.8 4.1
2015-16 UGA 7.8 0.4-1.6 .283 0.3-1.0 .333 0.3-0.4 .750 0.6 0.6 0.2 0.4 0.8 0.6 1.6

He would've been torn to pieces by this board if he were on our roster during that period.
 
Since Stairmaster (who's been ignored for years) called me out for my post questioning Kevin Freeman's job performance and said that I had commented in the past that Foxen should have gotten serious minutes for the Huskies, I went back and checked. In December 2015, what I said was "Foxen isn't your ordinary walk-on. He'd start for lesser D1 programs." In a follow-up post I listed Fairfield, UMASS-LOWELL and sarcastically, BC as schools he could start at. I'm glad my posts from 2015 have such an impact on him but it also reminds me why Stainmaster is on ignore. Why let the truth get in the way of a bad post? Back to ignore and yes, I stand by my comment about Kevin Freeman.
 
D$ said:
1). Fire KO now
2). RC as interim head coach
3). Bring in new coach in Spring from outside JC family

That's all you can do that is within your control.
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good thing your not the ad. And when you can't hire a coach or the coach you hire has the same results in 3 years? or 6 years?wins a NC and then has a losing record fire that one and try again?
 
UCweCONN said:
Since Stairmaster (who's been ignored for years) called me out for my post questioning Kevin Freeman's job performance and said that I had commented in the past that Foxen should have gotten serious minutes for the Huskies, I went back and checked. In December 2015, what I said was "Foxen isn't your ordinary walk-on. He'd start for lesser D1 programs." In a follow-up post I listed Fairfield, UMASS-LOWELL and sarcastically, BC as schools he could start at. I'm glad my posts from 2015 have such an impact on him but it also reminds me why Stainmaster is on ignore. Why let the truth get in the way of a bad post? Back to ignore and yes, I stand by my comment about Kevin Freeman.
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You still don't get that such an assertion proves you have no ability to evaluate talent on the basketball court. Out of all of the people here, you are probably the one with the least license to criticize Kevin Freeman.
 
uc1990 said:
good thing your not the ad. And when you can't hire a coach or the coach you hire has the same results in 3 years? or 6 years?wins a NC and then has a losing record fire that one and try again?
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yes, UConn won't be able to hire a coach. No one in the world will coach here. Ollie is the only option.
 
Stairmaster said:
You still don't get that such an assertion proves you have no ability to evaluate talent on the basketball court. Out of all of the people here, you are probably the one with the least license to criticize Kevin Freeman.
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No, I get that you're a jackass and liar.
 
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