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Most of the country is populated with NY/NJ transplants and RU will always be in a densely populated part of the media capital.....look at Fla and the Carolinas....how many bolstered and elevated you're state?
 
Cuse basketball vs Rutgers basketball maybe?

And Cuse basketball set NY viewing records.
 
NickyNewark said:
Most of the country is populated with NY/NJ transplants and RU will always be in a densely populated part of the media capital.....look at Fla and the Carolinas....how many bolstered and elevated you're state?
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Yeah Nicky....folks just are drawn to their remotes any time that Rutgers might be televised.

Rutgers sets all kinds of viewing records....kills it when in a bowl.
 
billybud said:
Cuse basketball vs Rutgers basketball maybe?

And Cuse basketball set NY viewing records.
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Who cares? If BB was important they'd be in the B1G.And believe me I live in NY metro and if you think they wouldn't prefer to be in the B1G I've got a bridge for sale.Btw how are they doing the last week or two in hoops?Killing it in the ACC? At one time they had loads of FB fans too!!
 
billybud said:
Yeah Nicky....folks just are drawn to their remotes any time that Rutgers might be televised.

Rutgers sets all kinds of viewing records....kills it when in a bowl.
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I never miss a game......on TV. I stopped going after the Temple game in protest of Kelis Fisher this year.
 
NickyNewark said:
I never miss a game.on TV. I stopped going after the Temple game in protest of Kelis Fisher this year.
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billy I'm curious?? Do you have anything to do in sunny Fla? Or is this you're job promoting the ACupC?
 
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Leaders:
UCONN
Rutgers
Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Virginia
Maryland
Indiana
UNC
Florida

Laggards:
BC
Cuse
Univ of Phoenix
Porter & Chester
Texas Southern
Tulane
New England Tractor Trailer School
Post University
DePaul
North Dakota State
 
12 team conferences are stupid...put together only for greed. We really only need 10 teams in a conference; play each team in football round robin for a 9 game schedule and each team home and away for basketball. Easy scheduling and easier to get the geographic rivalries that are needed,

BCU
UConn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
WVU
Maryland
Virginia
West Virginia

Now you've also got the Boston market (from us rather than BCU), the New York market (us, Cuse, Rutty, Penn State), the Pittsburgh market (Penn State, Pitt, WVU), and Baltimore/Washington (UMD, UVA, and Tech).
 
NickyNewark said:
billy I'm curious?? Do you have anything to do in sunny Fla? Or is this you're job promoting the ACupC?
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It's a job, Nicky.

Only in it for the money.

I assume you must get paid more than I. But you ought to. Schlepping Rutgers is tougher work.
 
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billybud said:
It's a job, Nicky.

Only in it for the money.

I assume you must get paid more than I. But you ought to. Schlepping Rutgers is tougher work.
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I like the yiddish inflection billy......whodathunkit? A professional? Not you so much as stimpy whose much smoother and only has 1 weak spot while you have too many holes in you're pysch for it.....ego, temper, arrogance and pride are exempting you from the position. BTW why do I have to schlepp RU? Their already locked in a better conference than you're's. Before FSU(or Fla was a state or we were a nation) was even thought of RU was an elite colonial institution. It was Queens College at the time....lots of catching up to do at podunk billy. Good luck with the SEC accepting a #2 school in a state(perceptionwise anyway). On second thought they already have one... TAMU.
 
No privates. Give UMass a chance to develop. Tons of regional rivalries in this setup:

UMass
UConn
Rutgers
PSU
Maryland
West Virginia
Pittsburg
Virginia
Virginia Tech
 
uconNYC said:
No privates. Give UMass a chance to develop. Tons of regional rivalries in this setup:

UMass
UConn
Rutgers
PSU
Maryland
West Virginia
Pittsburg
Virginia
Virginia Tech
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Agree no privates ....large Publics with resources at their disposal.
 
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geordi said:
12 team conferences are stupid...put together only for greed. We really only need 10 teams in a conference; play each team in football round robin for a 9 game schedule and each team home and away for basketball. Easy scheduling and easier to get the geographic rivalries that are needed,

BCU
UConn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
WVU
Maryland
Virginia
West Virginia

Now you've also got the Boston market (from us rather than BCU), the New York market (us, Cuse, Rutty, Penn State), the Pittsburgh market (Penn State, Pitt, WVU), and Baltimore/Washington (UMD, UVA, and Tech).
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Dude you need a football school or two. BCU and UVA do nothing for the conference. Help recruiting and get Miaimi and you are closer. I do like your using 10 as the new 16. Trade UVA for Miami and replace BCU with ???
 
NickyNewark said:
I like the yiddish inflection billy.whodathunkit? A professional? Not you so much as stimpy whose much smoother and only has 1 weak spot while you have too many holes in you're pysch for it.....ego, temper, arrogance and pride are exempting you from the position. BTW why do I have to schlepp RU? Their already locked in a better conference than you're's. Before FSU(or Fla was a state or we were a nation) was even thought of RU was an elite colonial institution. It was Queens College at the time....lots of catching up to do at podunk billy. Good luck with the SEC accepting a #2 school in a state(perceptionwise anyway). On second thought they already have one... TAMU.
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LOL...Nicky ...Of course I use Yiddish expressions from time to time. My father's folks were from the shtetl of Pryzborow (now Poland, then german speaking Prussia). Like most Americans, I am a mongrel product. With a Southern protestant mom, a college prep catholic education, and very broad interests, I count myself lucky.

Lucky to have had as parents two people who (in the 1940's) braved the slings and arrows of familial prejudice in the name of love. Lucky that they, as free thinkers, sought to give me the tools and room to learn and make my own decisions about many matters.

And...I count myself lucky to have been a fan of a school for 45 years. Enjoy being a fan of Rutgers. Living the highs and lows of fandom is a privilege that we appreciate best in the good years...but always a privilege.

I may not agree with you about Rutger's fitment into the football solar system, but I understand your fandom.
 
geordi said:
12 team conferences are stupid...put together only for greed. We really only need 10 teams in a conference; play each team in football round robin for a 9 game schedule and each team home and away for basketball. Easy scheduling and easier to get the geographic rivalries that are needed,

BCU
UConn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
WVU
Maryland
Virginia
West Virginia

Now you've also got the Boston market (from us rather than BCU), the New York market (us, Cuse, Rutty, Penn State), the Pittsburgh market (Penn State, Pitt, WVU), and Baltimore/Washington (UMD, UVA, and Tech).
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You put WVU and West Virginia.
 
CTMike said:
UConn, BC, Rutgers, Penn State, Syracuse, Pitt, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, WVU.
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This is mine also. If Notre Dame would join that would be awesome, I'd take Notre Dame and Navy to make 12 and give a conference championship.
 
I'll be that guy that goes to 16 teams, because why not? It would be the eastern seaboard, essentially, with a heavy emphasis on Big East (old BE) / ACC schools:

North Division
UConn
BC
Syracuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
Maryland
West Virginia

South Division
Virginia
Virginia Tech
UNC
Duke
Ga Tech
Miami
Fla State
USF

Eastern seaboard teams left off the ballot: NCState, Wake, Navy, Temple, ECU.

This conference might have been worth more than any other conference in the nation, based on demographics, etc. And it never had a chance in hell to happen...
 
UConnDan97 said:
I'll be that guy that goes to 16 teams, because why not? It would be the eastern seaboard, essentially, with a heavy emphasis on Big East (old BE) / ACC schools:

North Division
UConn
BC
Syracuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
Maryland
West Virginia
South Division
Virginia
Virginia Tech
UNC
Duke
Ga Tech
Miami
Fla State
USF

Eastern seaboard teams left off the ballot: NCState, Wake, Navy, Temple, ECU.

This conference might have been worth more than any other conference in the nation, based on demographics, etc. And it never had a chance in hell to happen...
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Swap out USF for Clemson, and you have likely created the greatest all sports conference in history. It encompasses the entire East Coast while combining both great athletics and academics. You could do four rotating pods of logical rivals, and still maintain the semblance of a conference.

Northeast
UCONN
BC
Cuse
Rutgers

Mid Atlantic
PSU
Pitt
WVU
UMD

Mid South
UVA
VPI
UNC
Duke

Southeast
Clemson
GT
FSU
Miami

Wow. Football, basketball, baseball, wrestling, soccer, just about everything. It's a shame that everyone is so damn greedy, chasing their own self interests. If presidents could see the bigger picture, they would see that they are actually leaving dollars on the table at home chaising cents all over the country. Blow the whole damn thing up and start over.
 
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Ldandy said:
Swap out USF for Clemson, and you have likely created the greatest all sports conference in history. It encompasses the entire East Coast while combining both great athletics and academics. You could do four rotating pods of logical rivals, and still maintain the semblance of a conference.

Northeast
UCONN
BC
Cuse
Rutgers

Mid Atlantic
PSU
Pitt
WVU
UMD

Mid South
UVA
VPI
UNC
Duke

Southeast
Clemson
GT
FSU
Miami

Wow. Football, basketball, baseball, wrestling, soccer, just about everything. It's a shame that everyone is so damn greedy, chasing their own self interests. If presidents could see the bigger picture, they would see that they are actually leaving dollars on the table at home chaising cents all over the country. Blow the whole damn thing up and start over.
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Good call on the Clemson-for-USF switch. I couldn't bring myself to switch them out for NCState, but Clemson is the right call. As for the pods, I don't think you need them. the 8-team divisions play out pretty well for most sports, I think. Cuts down on travel, etc. For football, it might be an issue, since 9 conference games would mean only 2 crossover games (7 inside the division). But again; 1) travel minimized, 2) a gigantic piece of the country's population covered, and 3) natural rivalries restored.

The problem is not that they were greedy. It's that they weren't greedy enough to smash apart the existing leagues and start a new one (where's Gordon Gecko when you need him!). They just covertly stole what they could from one to feed the other...
 
Mine would be:

East:

UConn
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
North Carolina
Florida
Georgia
Florida State

West:

Texas
Oklahoma
UCLA
USC
Nebraska
Oregon
Stanford
Alabama

My league is called the "Schools That Make Money + UConn League". Imagine our tv contract. Shame on everyone else for thinking regional!
 
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billybud said:
LOL...Nicky ...Of course I use Yiddish expressions from time to time. My father's folks were from the shtetl of Pryzborow (now Poland, then german speaking Prussia). Like most Americans, I am a mongrel product. With a Southern protestant mom, a college prep catholic education, and very broad interests, I count myself lucky.

Lucky to have had as parents two people who (in the 1940's) braved the slings and arrows of familial prejudice in the name of love. Lucky that they, as free thinkers, sought to give me the tools and room to learn and make my own decisions about many matters.

And...I count myself lucky to have been a fan of a school for 45 years. Enjoy being a fan of Rutgers. Living the highs and lows of fandom is a privilege that we appreciate best in the good years...but always a privilege.

I may not agree with you about Rutger's fitment into the football solar system, but I understand your fandom.
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I was so pizzed about you're post I went to Atlantic City and won a couple G's.It just goes to show what a small world we live in that even a guy with Wisconsin(Slav/Norse)/Celto-Southern roots uses what's common(yiddishism's) in NYC metro and maybe Miami-Ft Lauderdale....?? Yeah who knows why we fall for certain schools and act like the Brian Wilson song "Be true to your school" unto our passing? Most good fans never even went to some of these schools.I love the line "When some loud braggard tries to put my school down I say right to his face....hey buddy aint ya heard of my school.. were #1 in the state and Friday will be ready to fight". Though in NJ growing up Sat at 11am/2pm was traditional KO time in the 60s for HSFB. Btw,we have some Germano-Prussian hessian stock up here too going back to the Battle of Trenton in the NE.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Football:

Syracuse
Pitt
Rutgers
Penn State
Maryland
WVU
Louisville
UMass (I would much rather have a second New England public school than BCU)

Basketball

Those 9 plus the C7.

8 game football schedule against regional rivals and a basketball league that would still be legendary.
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I hope this was posted with utter sarcasm!
If not well, this conference would last two years and then we would be the only one left in the conference...basically in two years we would be independent.
 
First, you'd need a rule capping conference size at 10. So everyone would be in a round-robin conference, hopefully with regional rivals. Travel costs would come down for everybody, and roadtrips would be easy. No more unbalanced schedules. No conf championship games, regular season wins it. Ideally, UConn's confernece would be:

UConn
Penn State
Rutgers
Pitt
BC
Syracuse
Ohio State
WVU
Maryland
Virginia
 
Although not the way of college athletic conferences these days, I think it would be ideal to have ten team conferences for round robin play and a shared history together. I started with the Big Ten, Pac Ten and SEC since those are easy to slate based on conference history then went from there with the ACC and Big East trying to capture historical lineups. I would be interested to get your thoughts from the perspective of UConn and the perspective of ACC posters as well regarding these ACC and Big East conferences.

Big Ten: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin.

Pac Ten: Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Washington State.

SEC: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt.

ACC (reconciled with South Carolina): Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, NC State, South Carolina, Virginia, Wake Forest.

Big East (Penn State accepted): Boston College, Miami, Penn State, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, Temple, UConn, Virginia Tech, West Virginia.
 
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My thought is 18 makes most sense. 9 schools per division, round robin in that division, and then title game for football. But, it was too hard to cut schools in the western division, so I went with 20--a league that can compete in football and basketball, and maintains strong regional rivalries.

Boston College
Connecticut
Duke
Maryland
North Carolina
Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia

Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Missouri
Ohio State
Wisconsin
 
uconNYC said:
No privates. Give UMass a chance to develop. Tons of regional rivalries in this setup:

UMass
UConn
Rutgers
PSU
Maryland
West Virginia
Pittsburg
Virginia
Virginia Tech
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I would include SUNY in that, either Buffalo or Stony Brook. Add in UNC and Duke, too. That's 12. FSU can be 13, Clemson can be 14, GT can be 15. Can take in both SUNY schools to make it 16. ODU also has potential. But asking schools to leave the B1G is like asking schools to leave the Ivy League.
 
pj said:
This is mine also. If Notre Dame would join that would be awesome, I'd take Notre Dame and Navy to make 12 and give a conference championship.
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Why in the world would you want to share a conference with ND after all the backstabbing they have done to you and the Big East?
 
From my perspective:

10 team

Michigan - Obviously
Michigan State - Rival
OSU - Rival
PSU - GreatRecruiting and traditional program
Illinois - Regional Rival
Wisconsin - Regional Rival
Indiana - Regional Rival, Great Basketball
Maryland - Bridge to Mid Atlantic
Virginia - Great Presence, very much like a B10 school
UNC - Great Basketball

Last in - Maryland
First out - Minnesota

Had some tough decisions on this. Hate to leave out Minnesota and the Little Brown Jug Trophy, but wanted to keep Indiana BB to pair with UNC. NW doesn't fit the new mold and Iowa doesn't have that feel either. Purdue? No.
 
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