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freescooter said:
Of all the things that were on his plate, there was one that was far and away #1. In fact it was not only #1, but #1-5. And that was getting us into a P5 conference. When he needed to be here doing that he instead was in the Bahamas drinking those out of hollowed out pineapples with little umbrellas. End result, UConn is in the AAC. For all the nonsense offered in his defense, he was totally out maneuvered. He let Louisville set the narrative, and we still haven't recovered from his ineptitude. Not just because we got left out of the ACC. That was bad enough. But the whole perception of UConn suffered because he didn't make any kind of a public defense of the University. It was so embarrassing that I even heard one guy talking about how Louisville was competitive with UConn in Womens Basketball! Warde Manuel gave the most incompetent effort since Michael Dukakis's run for president.
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People really believe there was anything Manuel or Herbst could've done to get us into the ACC? Good grief.

What do people expect?

He hired Ollie and Diaco.

Although some people may hate it, he oversaw the re-branding effort.

He has added quality games against BYU and Boise.

The marketing and ticket strategy, while it still has a lot of room for improvement, is much better than under JH.

I don't give him full credit, but groundbreaking for the hoops practice facility was under his watch.

If you and others wanna blame him for sipping drinks in the Bahamas while Ville got into the ACC, have at it. But you're embarassing yourself.
 
freescooter said:
Dare we hope she does a BC/Jags and fires him?
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Because that worked out so well for BC.

If the guy is in demand, that is a good thing and it means that the world in which operates holds him in fairly high regard.
 
Nostical said:
If Warde Manuel Leaves.….I'll dance naked on the 50 yard line at The Rent.
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This is the second time you've used this wager. Which game(s) are you planning on doing this? I'll be sure to be in the beer or bathroom line, which ever mood strikes me at that time in order not to witness it. It's one of those things you can't unsee.
 
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Husky25 said:
This is the second time you've used this wager. Which game(s) are you planning on doing this? I'll be sure to be in the beer or bathroom line, which ever mood strikes me at that time in order not to witness it. It's one of those things you can't unsee.
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Hopefully it's late in the season when it's cold out. Just to keep it short.
 
As usual, I guess I am in the minority. I think losing Warde would be a huge blow to Uconn. I think he has been outstanding, and finding an equal replacement will be very difficult. I hope President Herbst gives him a raise by the end of the week to end this rumor.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
People really believe there was anything Manuel or Herbst could've done to get us into the ACC? Good grief.

What do people expect?

He hired Ollie and Diaco.

Although some people may hate it, he oversaw the re-branding effort.

He has added quality games against BYU and Boise.

The marketing and ticket strategy, while it still has a lot of room for improvement, is much better than under JH.

I don't give him full credit, but groundbreaking for the hoops practice facility was under his watch.

If you and others wanna blame him for sipping drinks in the Bahamas while Ville got into the ACC, have at it. But you're embarassing yourself.
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He did pretty well for the hockey program also.
 
Nostical said:
If Warde Manuel Leaves.….I'll dance naked on the 50 yard line at The Rent.
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Hey Nos, they had your girl Suzie on the Kiss Cam last night! I thought of you.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
The guy who posted this on his blog questioned his source. That says quite a bit.
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I saw you post that on the basketball board as well. I think you misread the tweet. The person who questioned the source was a UConn fan tweeting at Jeff Jacobs, not Jeff Jacobs himself.

https://twitter.com/ADimeBack/status/425985450419818496

A Dime Back‏@ADimeBack
@jacobscourant Is this you talking based on your sources, or mentioning because of John's article? I don't trust the source in John's piece.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
People really believe there was anything Manuel or Herbst could've done to get us into the ACC? Good grief.

What do people expect?

He hired Ollie and Diaco.

Although some people may hate it, he oversaw the re-branding effort.

He has added quality games against BYU and Boise.

The marketing and ticket strategy, while it still has a lot of room for improvement, is much better than under JH.

I don't give him full credit, but groundbreaking for the hoops practice facility was under his watch.

If you and others wanna blame him for sipping drinks in the Bahamas while Ville got into the ACC, have at it. But you're embarassing yourself.
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I guess you are entitled to your view. He did a horrible job and made no effort to counter the narrative that UL was putting out, to the extent that it was truly embarrassing. As I said when I heard a talking head favorably compare UL's womens basketball program to ours it was clear how bad things had gotten. Heck, Jurich had everybody on tv, the radio, interviewed in the press. He announced he was cancelling his trip to work on this. Manuel did nothing. He allowed the narrative to develop such that by the time the vote was held, Louisville seemed like the logical choice and UConn would have been a head scratcher. Two weeks earlier, everyone conceded UConn was the logical choice. I've watched and participated in political campaigns before and when you allow the other guy to set the narrative, even if he's the underdog, you almost always lose. I saw that playing out very early on in the ACC thing and it was clear that Warde had absolutely no clue what he was doing. He didn't fight back even once. You have to give your friends a reason to support you and we didn't. The whole "there was nothing he could do" argument came about after he had failed. It was an excuse. Nothing more. I would have fired him the day after the decision was made if I had the power to do so. The rest of the stuff he's done has been polishing the silverware on the Titanic. And this comes from a long time hockey fan who loves that we're heading to Hockey East.
 
freescooter said:
I guess you are entitled to your view. He did a horrible job and made no effort to counter the narrative that UL was putting out, to the extent that it was truly embarrassing. As I said when I heard a talking head favorably compare UL's womens basketball program to ours it was clear how bad things had gotten. Heck, Jurich had everybody on tv, the radio, interviewed in the press. He announced he was cancelling his trip to work on this. Manuel did nothing. He allowed the narrative to develop such that by the time the vote was held, Louisville seemed like the logical choice and UConn would have been a head scratcher. Two weeks earlier, everyone conceded UConn was the logical choice. I've watched and participated in political campaigns before and when you allow the other guy to set the narrative, even if he's the underdog, you almost always lose. I saw that playing out very early on in the ACC thing and it was clear that Warde had absolutely no clue what he was doing. He didn't fight back even once. You have to give your friends a reason to support you and we didn't. The whole "there was nothing he could do" argument came about after he had failed. It was an excuse. Nothing more. I would have fired him the day after the decision was made if I had the power to do so. The rest of the stuff he's done has been polishing the silverware on the Titanic. And this comes from a long time hockey fan who loves that we're heading to Hockey East.
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Please don't take this the wrong way. But if you don't get help at Charter, please get help somewhere.
 
ZooCougar said:
If Warde leaves:

"Sometime when you’re feeling important;
Sometime when your ego ‘s in bloom;
Sometime when you take it for granted,
You’re the best qualified in the room:
Sometime when you feel that your going,
Would leave an unfillable hole,
Just follow these simple instructions,
And see how they humble your soul.

Take a bucket and fill it with water,
Put your hand in it up to the wrist,
Pull it out and the hole that’s remaining,
Is a measure of how much you’ll be missed.
You can splash all you wish when you enter,
You may stir up the water galore,
But stop, and you’ll find that in no time,
It looks quite the same as before.

The moral of this quaint example,
Is to do just the best that you can,
Be proud of yourself but remember,
There’s no indispensable man."
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well played.jpg
 
If he leaves...he leaves. I'd wish him luck...then hope SH is making her FIRST and ONLY call to Tim Pernetti!
 
freescooter said:
I guess you are entitled to your view. He did a horrible job and made no effort to counter the narrative that UL was putting out, to the extent that it was truly embarrassing. As I said when I heard a talking head favorably compare UL's womens basketball program to ours it was clear how bad things had gotten. Heck, Jurich had everybody on tv, the radio, interviewed in the press. He announced he was cancelling his trip to work on this. Manuel did nothing. He allowed the narrative to develop such that by the time the vote was held, Louisville seemed like the logical choice and UConn would have been a head scratcher. Two weeks earlier, everyone conceded UConn was the logical choice. I've watched and participated in political campaigns before and when you allow the other guy to set the narrative, even if he's the underdog, you almost always lose. I saw that playing out very early on in the ACC thing and it was clear that Warde had absolutely no clue what he was doing. He didn't fight back even once. You have to give your friends a reason to support you and we didn't. The whole "there was nothing he could do" argument came about after he had failed. It was an excuse. Nothing more. I would have fired him the day after the decision was made if I had the power to do so. The rest of the stuff he's done has been polishing the silverware on the Titanic. And this comes from a long time hockey fan who loves that we're heading to Hockey East.
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Or maybe FSU and Clemson wielded a lot of stroke and made the final call. Ville just expanded their stadium. They were in the middle of a strong year with a stud coach and Heisman candidate QB. They had made it clear it was athletics first, academics last.

That's not narrative. What should Warde have done? Specifically.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
People really believe there was anything Manuel or Herbst could've done to get us into the ACC? Good grief.

What do people expect?

He hired Ollie and Diaco.

Although some people may hate it, he oversaw the re-branding effort.

He has added quality games against BYU and Boise.

The marketing and ticket strategy, while it still has a lot of room for improvement, is much better than under JH.

I don't give him full credit, but groundbreaking for the hoops practice facility was under his watch.

If you and others wanna blame him for sipping drinks in the Bahamas while Ville got into the ACC, have at it. But you're embarassing yourself.
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Next year our men's basketball team, who is a powerhouse, plays East Carolina, Tulsa and Tulane IN CONFERENCE.
 
Waquoit said:
Whether he gets the job or not, isn't Manuel admitting that we're effed?
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No, I'm pretty sure you don't know you are being upgraded until the week before you are being upgraded. What you can probably read into this is nothing is imminent.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Or maybe FSU and Clemson wielded a lot of stroke and made the final call. Ville just expanded their stadium. They were in the middle of a strong year with a stud coach and Heisman candidate QB. They had made it clear it was athletics first, academics last.

That's not narrative. What should Warde have done? Specifically.
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We took a hit image wise, far, far worse than we ever deserved. This is an accomplished Athletic Department and we were characterized as a renegade program, hamstrung by sanctions that we would never recover from. There was so much bogus information out there and nobody sought to counter it.

Cincy on the other hand came out looking better than when they started.

Louisville getting in may have been a foregone conclusion and privately we got our butts kicked, but we got it worse in the public sphere. As if coming up short wasn't enough, they basically slandered the school to add insult to injury.
 
FDNY99 said:
If he leaves...he leaves. I'd wish him luck...then hope SH is making her FIRST and ONLY call to Tim Pernetti!
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Don't know about "only call" but he should clearly get a call.
 
Honestly, IMO 1. WM has done a great job with what he has here at UConn (Hockey HC hire, Football HC hire/Fire of PP/GDL, Facilities, Basketball Practice Complex funding, Marketing Athetics/New Branding, & Ticket Sales) and 2. VA Tech is really not a step up to me? What does their AD get paid? If Warde stuck it out here at UConn and got them into the ACC or B1G wouldn't this be a premiere job in the nation?
 
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If Manuel leaves his legacy will be the Diaco hire. UConn's failure to get in the ACC is Hathaway's legacy. All of the factors that led to the situation where UL got picked first (slumping ticket sales, academic issues, not getting along with Calhoun / Edsall, failure to placate Burton and other big donors) were came under Hathaway's watch. As long as those are the starting conditions, any public PR campaign that WM could have mounted would be window dressing and the end result would have been the same. On the other hand if Hathaway had kept good relations with donors, Calhoun and Edsall, managed to keep the APR mess from happening, or if Hogan had put someone more competent in place of Hathaway a few years before all those problems, UConn would have had a better chance at the ACC. Importantly, it still would not have been a guarantee and UL still might have gotten in because of geography and perception, even if Edsall or a non-Pasqualoni replacement had managed to keep the football program in the 8-9 win range.
 
SonsOfNutmeg said:
Honestly, IMO 1. WM has done a great job with what he has here at UConn (Hockey HC hire, Football HC hire/Fire of PP/GDL, Facilities, Basketball Practice Complex funding, Marketing Athetics/New Branding, & Ticket Sales) and 2. VA Tech is really not a step up to me? What does their AD get paid? If Warde stuck it out here at UConn and got them into the ACC or B1G wouldn't this be a premiere job in the nation?
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Ticket sales are on your great job list? Football had the worst ticket sales in the program's history. Basketball isn't too far behind compared to where they were in the 90s/00s.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Or maybe FSU and Clemson wielded a lot of stroke and made the final call. Ville just expanded their stadium. They were in the middle of a strong year with a stud coach and Heisman candidate QB. They had made it clear it was athletics first, academics last.

That's not narrative. What should Warde have done? Specifically.
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He should have appeared on every ESPN show on tv. he should have used Jim Calhoun like UL used Pitino. Put him on WFAN, give interviews to the national press...it isn't about what so much as how and why. We're in a better media market. We have more national championships in more sports. We had been to a BCS game. Hell, we had just beaten UL's stud coach and Heisman candidate at Louisville. And we were far more academically compatible with the ACC than a commuter college that you can get into by filling out the form on-line. But it isn't that so much as that he did nothing. I saw Jurich, Pitino and Strong on tv, and I don't even watch those sports talk shows often. I heard Francesa say UConn is getting the ACC slot, then after an interview with Pitino, change his tune. Where was Calhoun? Where was Manuel? A decade or so ago, there was a race for 1st selectman of in a rural town. The last time a Democrat had been elected to the post was before the Civil War. So the GOP candidate, figuring it was going to be a cakewalk, went on a tour of Europe 2 weeks before election day. There was nobody around to make the case and the Democrat, who was a pretty good candidate established the narrative. The Democrat was inaugurated First Selectman a few weeks later. After the fact, people said "well, the Dem was a good campaigner. She had a better program. The voters wanted a change." But the GOP candidate told me, "If I had been here, no way I lose. I just couldn't fight back from Paris." Warde followed that script.
 
3for3 said:
I saw you post that on the basketball board as well. I think you misread the tweet. The person who questioned the source was a UConn fan tweeting at Jeff Jacobs, not Jeff Jacobs himself.

https://twitter.com/ADimeBack/status/425985450419818496

A Dime Back‏@ADimeBack
@jacobscourant Is this you talking based on your sources, or mentioning because of John's article? I don't trust the source in John's piece.
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Unless I completely misread Altavilla's article, the blog he referenced (Hokie something) claimed a source (Roberts?) to the five names and followed that by claiming the source would not have inside info on this and doubts the credibility.

Dime Back is just relaying thir party info to Jacobs.
 
Waquoit said:
Whether he gets the job or not, isn't Manuel admitting that we're effed?
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Doubt it...he wouldn't have hired a Diaco-like coach.

Also, I do find it interesting that the two schools considered the next to jump (UConn and Cincy) each have their ADs in this mix.
 
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