If Reed can play like he did

[RedStickHusky]

I do not mean to sound nasty, but this is the most absurd "post" i have ever read. Sanogo rebounded and he hedged. Clingan and the Wrench did as well. Hedging has nothing to do with boxing out and rebounding because you go back to your low post area when you are done hedging. Just dumb. If you ever played one minute of organized or park ball you would know that if you are 6'10", you are expected to rebound.

Not nasty, just ignorant... (Well, maybe a little nasty). I see posts on here everyday complaining about the hedging, which was my only claim. He is frequently in a disadvantaged rebounding position recovering from a hedge, but sure, Reed is a much better rebounder regardless. You know what you know, I know what I see. Yes, Reed is a tough to move wide body with a good post up game, and Samson is a light weight rangy help defender with a better over the rim game. They have different games, both are value added, Hurley likes bringing Reed in with the first subs. That's good enough for me. You calling me stupid doesn't really move the needle.

 

[RuffRuff]

Not nasty, just ignorant... (Well, maybe a little nasty). I see posts on here everyday complaining about the hedging, which was my only claim. He is frequently in a disadvantaged rebounding position recovering from a hedge, but sure, Reed is a much better rebounder regardless. You know what you know, I know what I see. Yes, Reed is a tough to move wide body with a good post up game, and Samson is a light weight rangy help defender with a better over the rim game. They have different games, both are value added, Hurley likes bringing Reed in with the first subs. That's good enough for me. You calling me stupid doesn't really move the needle.

Someone needs to create a BoneYard code of ethics with the first being:

1) Thou shall and can disagree without layering personal insults on the opposing poster.

It just never goes well once the personal insults start bubbling. Think about how nice that exchange could have went without this piece:
"I do not mean to sound nasty, but this is the most absurd "post" i have ever read"

HooperScooper, get on it, you got the time .

 

[AllHusky]

Someone needs to create a BoneYard code of ethics with the first being:

1) Thou shall and can disagree without layering personal insults on the opposing poster.

It just never goes well once the personal insults start bubbling. Think about how nice that exchange could have went without this piece:
"I do not mean to sound nasty, but this is the most absurd "post" i have ever read"

HooperScooper, get on it, you got the time .

Agree, Sir Ruff. I have been a recipient of some of those insulting, sarcastic posts. Don't understand the point other than to elevate oneself above us mere mortals. I believe that by and large folks come here to enjoy our fandom and have an old fashioned barber shop or coffee shop style give and take about the relative merits of the high hedge or the double bigs and so on.

If the Nasty ones were to say those things in person at a barber shop or coffee shop or any other place where sports are debated and discussed, there would be retribution, no doubt.

 

[RuffRuff]

Agree, Sir Ruff. I have been a recipient of some of those insulting, sarcastic posts. Don't understand the point or than to elevate oneself above us mere mortals. I believe that by and large folks come here to enjoy our fandom and have an old fashioned barber shop or coffee shop style give and take about the relative merits of the high hedge or the double bigs and so on.

If the Nasty ones were to say those things in person at a barber shop or coffee shop or any other place where sports are debated and discussed, there would be retribution, no doubt.

If at the Barber shop, lives might be at stake Sweeny Todd style! Love thinking the BY is a digital barber shop!

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Now I feel better. I was shocked after the game to see their own thread for Mahaney and Hass, but none for Reed. We don't win that game without Reed. He changed everything on the defensive end. I was surprised they didn't look to pound it inside to him more down the stretch as Providence came back.

The way he played Sunday, he reminded me of Chris Webber. Rarely misses anything when he’s near the basket, and they both walk the same way. Lol

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Who starts at the 5 is a moot point because that’s typically a shared duty with close to equal minutes
In 2011 Olander dtsrtef and 2014 Nolan
I wouldn’t consider either the primary 5 that year
In 2023 we had Sanogo but we had a future lottery pick coming off the bench , how much fun was that .

 

[RuffRuff]

The way he played Sunday, he reminded me of Chris Webber. Rarely misses anything when he’s near the basket, and they both walk the same way. Lol

And both went to Michigan, like Danny Wolf.

 

[Hunt for 7]

Someone needs to create a BoneYard code of ethics with the first being:

1) Thou shall and can disagree without layering personal insults on the opposing poster.

It just never goes well once the personal insults start bubbling. Think about how nice that exchange could have went without this piece:
"I do not mean to sound nasty, but this is the most absurd "post" i have ever read"

HooperScooper, get on it, you got the time .

Yeah that ain’t gonna happen. What would half of these guys do if they could not attach personal insults when they can’t think of an intellectual way to disagree.

The BY way is to insult then have their posse like the insult……..

 

[superjohn]

In the 2nd half he showed he can be a differentiator on the defensive end the spot where r championships are won.
I feel like I’m gonna get a solid effort from diarra ak ball McNeeley
I think Reed today earns the poll position(25 min plus) as the main big. And to put Samson Johnson back in still a very important position as back up big
The last ingredients will be the support group of am jr jd and an
But I think we learned a lot especially about reeds potential importance: upside

We all know Reed is better than Samson but he's not going to start and they both are needed and bring important things to the table.

Hurley loves Samson and he's always talking about Samson being what this program is all about. He will start all season.

 

[RuffRuff]

Yeah that ain’t gonna happen. What would half of these guys do if they could not attach personal insults when they can’t think of an intellectual way to disagree.

The BY way is to insult then have their posse like the insult……..

Ah, so a Boneyard Maffia - who's the Godfather? This is getting juicey, and I just wrapped up the last season of Peaky Blinders and need to get a fix on my organized crime interest.

 

[Palatine]

If the offense plays like it did in the second half, the defense is fine. Or biggest problem was going 1-10 from the field in the last minutes of the first half.

 

[Stinger92860]

If Sampson developed a mid-range jumper. They leave him wide open.

I thought a yarder was on here saying he could drill 3s a few years ago?

 

[Stinger92860]

Someone needs to create a BoneYard code of ethics with the first being:

1) Thou shall and can disagree without layering personal insults on the opposing poster.

It just never goes well once the personal insults start bubbling. Think about how nice that exchange could have went without this piece:
"I do not mean to sound nasty, but this is the most absurd "post" i have ever read"

HooperScooper, get on it, you got the time .

I’d vote for @Jaydumo20 and a Buddhist approach. I’d be 100% on board.

 

[RuffRuff]

Love TO

 

[SwingDog]

Was at the game. When we were down, I turned to my friend and said "Reed hasn't played much. I wonder if him getting in can change things". Shortly thereafter, he came in, and things did change.

That's exactly what happened to me while in the game chat. I asked "where is Tarris?" and all of a sudden he answered my question in seconds with couple of blocks and buckets.

 

[Hunt for 7]

Ah, so a Boneyard Maffia - who's the Godfather? This is getting juicey, and I just wrapped up the last season of Peaky Blinders and need to get a fix on my organized crime interest.

Not mafia more like high school stuff. But as I think you once said it is what it is and sometimes it’s easy to ignore other times it can bother you. But it ain’t changing now, it is imbedded in the Yard.

 

[freshler40]

I’m not a metrics guy nor a perpetual hater. I will agree that against DePaul maybe it made sense but let’s not pretend he stopped any 3 point shots from happening. He’s a great back up 5, better than most have for sure. But we are tougher and can finish in half court a lot better with Reed in, something we will need to do while McNeeley is out. Johnson has a had a couple excellent quick starts as of late but when the opposition adjusts and takes the lob away he becomes a liability because he can’t rebound. I do believe next game vs Nova and Dixon he may be able to guard him both out and driving to the basket but foul trouble also scares me.

I don’t honestly care who starts but if it helps to get Tarris out and running by starting then give it a try because he’s an absolute difference maker.

We scored 60 points in the second half of yesterday's game with Reed playing most of that time. Does this mean anything? We also held PC well below what they did in the first half. Just happenstance?

 

[3rdbass]

We scored 60 points in the second half of yesterday's game with Reed playing most of that time. Does this mean anything? We also held PC well below what they did in the first half. Just happenstance?

Providence actually scored 45 points in the 2nd half compared to 39 points in the first half.

 

[Candyman]

Providence actually scored 45 points in the 2nd half compared to 39 points in the first half.

Yes they scored 45 but they scored 16 in the last 1m and like 20 seconds. Before that we outscored them 26-5

Reed wasn't in the game the last 2 minutes as hurley wanted ballhandlers for the press. We went with Karaban at the 5, Stew, Ball, Mahaney and Diarra. I know they scored those 16 but that was more on Hurley by taking Reed out who could have protecting the rim and stupid fouls which put them at the line. The last basket was also BS, a runner off the glass that was meaningless.

 

[ctchamps]

I love what Tarris and Samson both bring as players to our 5 position. Another true 2-headed monster for the 3rd year in a row....but very different than previous yewars.

However, unless the offensive and defensive metrics dramatically change for the worse, Samson is going to be our starter (much to the chagrin of his perpetual haters).

An interesting observation is that, generally speaking, it seems to take Big Hoss some time to "get going". He seems much better in the 2nd half vs. quality comp than in his 1st-half stints.

Check this out for 1st half performances since we got back from Maui from Hoop Explorer. For the less stats-inclined, just look at the box I highlighted. Those are the equivalent ratings used on KenPom for adjusted offense/defensive ratings. They track pretty closely to KenPom numbers:

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The team has been close to elite in 1st halves with Samson in.

Two "asterisks" I'll note going forward is that Liam being out may shift the equation temporarily for more Tarris time as Liam brought important rebounding and spacing that allowed Samson to be a perimeter disrupter and a shot-blocker/rim protector on D and a more effective lob threat on O.

This correlates with first half playing time in the Providence game and what Reed said in the press conferences.

He said there was a lot of yelling before he came into that second half and played like a Kodiak. When asked what was all the yelling was about he hedged his statement. But it's obvious the coaches are yelling at him to play like the beast he is. It's not talent that's the problem for Reed. It's getting worked up to play to his abilities. Apparently he lacks that inner drive to push himself. I'd give him a transfusion with Cam's blood.

 

[AllHusky]

'CAMS BLOOD' Love it. The new anabolic steroids!

"Did you see Tarris last night?"

"Yeah, he's on the Blood!!"

 

[JesusAllen11]

Samson isn’t perfect. His rebounding, lack if strength and fouling are an issue. But Danny loves him , see him as a leader and is Loyal to him.

Samson also is an effective player and pretty unique player too. Samson is who is he is. I had hire hopes for him this year. But i thinked he has peaked as a player

Danny isnt benching him

That doesnt matter. Because i view Sam/Reed as a Dual starter. Depending in match up , who is playing well and foul trouble will determine whi gets the 25 min , who gets the 15. If both playing even we will see 20-20 split.
As long as danny doesnt ignore Reed when we clearly need him , like last game where he properly adjusted , it doesnt matter if reed is on the bench.

Danny will unleash the bear when we need it.

Samson starting is best for his confidence and team morale. Reed doesnt have confidence or scared to step up issues. Danny should leave Center spot as is. Team is on an 8 game win streak. Changing the lineup sans injury is foolish

 

[RedStickHusky]

Someone needs to create a BoneYard code of ethics with the first being:

You're calling me out? All I did was reply to "not to be nasty, but...".

 

[Waquoit]

The team's starts with Samson in the line-up hasn't been an issue so I'm confused why this board is still so hung up on this.

Seriously. I don't remember the Yard second guessing Calhoun for starting Chuck Okwandu.