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If Jalen played with a good big man, he'd be one of the top passing guards in UCONN men's history. Even though he plays without a big man who can catch, never mind shoot, he is still one of the top assist guys in the conference.

Imagine if Jalen played with some of UCONN's best big men, or if he played on a team with a tough-as-Calhoun pg like Taliek Brown.

If he played with Emeka, he could be a 10 assist per game guy.

If Jalen were on a good UCONN team, he'd be considered one of the top guards in program history.
 
borninansonia said:
If Jalen were on a good UCONN team, he'd be considered one of the top guards in program history.
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He's the second-most talent PG we've ever had, after Kemba. It's a shame he came through Storrs at the wrong time.

If Bazz was able to carve out a nice role in the NBA then I firmly believe Jalen will do the same. He has not been able to showcase his ability to the fullest extent in this program, with this roster and coach. He will be a nice get for whatever team signs him after the draft, assuming things stay the course and no one pulls the trigger on him in the second round.
 
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If Jalen comes back I really feel he will explode and his true talent will shine. Having the transfers replaced with one year grad transfers and a bunch of freshman, along with a couple of players who returned from injury put him in a position worse than Boatright's senior year. I might add having to play an extraordinary amount of minutes in a losing season, many with 20+ point losses, also hurt him.

Next year he will have a nucleate of familiar players, along with a guard who can take him off the ball for spells will be valuable to his game. He was one of the best high school guards in the Country hanging with Isaiah Briscoe (remember him?) and others. He played with Ryan for one year, then Rodney both pro ballers.

I for one will be very despondent (to a degree) if he declares. He may seem not NBA ready but some of that is due to his partners on the Court and perhaps someone else.;)

If he stays and we get better collectively, there is no one better who can take us back into The Tourney again.
 
djct1999 said:
If Jalen was on a good UConn team, he would play the 2.
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Between this and your take that Larrier is the best pro prospect on the team, I'm not sure what you've been watching the last few seasons. Nothing about Adams' game says "SG". You really think Taliek Brown would start over him if Jalen was on that 2004 squad?
 
borninansonia said:
If Jalen played with a good big man, he'd be one of the top passing guards in UCONN men's history. Even though he plays without a big man who can catch, never mind shoot, he is still one of the top assist guys in the conference.

Imagine if Jalen played with some of UCONN's best big men, or if he played on a team with a tough-as-Calhoun pg like Taliek Brown.

If he played with Emeka, he could be a 10 assist per game guy.

If Jalen were on a good UCONN team, he'd be considered one of the top guards in program history.
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I agree he could be one of the best but I think even having Gilbert would have made a huge difference for him this year. He hasn’t had the work ethic in the off season that bazz Ray Kemba and many others had. (It doesn’t seem) Hope he puts in the work stays off the scooters and comes back. Could be great!
 
Lefty2one said:
Between this and your take that Larrier is the best pro prospect on the team, I'm not sure what you've been watching the last few seasons. Nothing about Adams' game says "SG". You really think Taliek Brown would start over him if Jalen was on that 2004 squad?
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Probably. Toughness, leadership and defense unmatched. Taliek mirrored JC as much as any player in UCONN history.
 
I think MSG and Anderson and RIP and Ray and Donyell and Caron would increase those assist numbers a lot more than Meka would, and I love everything about Meka's game
 
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Eh im not a Big Jalen fan. Feel like he’s difficult to play with and plays in spurts only. Poor leader poor defender. Talented tho. Would of been interesting to see how him and alterique worked.

Bazz kemba AJ Khalid all better players.
 
Lefty2one said:
Between this and your take that Larrier is the best pro prospect on the team, I'm not sure what you've been watching the last few seasons. Nothing about Adams' game says "SG". You really think Taliek Brown would start over him if Jalen was on that 2004 squad?
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Yes, I do. I also think AJ Price, Marcus Williams, Shabazz Napier, Ryan Boatright, and Kemba Walker would as well. Go further, so would Doron Sheffer , Kevin Ollie, and Khalid El-Amin. I'd even rather have Ricky Moore. If you dig beyond your clear obsession with Jalen, you will realize he is more effective off the ball. Hence, a 2 guard. As a pg, he turns the ball over way to much, rarely gets his teammates involved, and has a poor outside shot. Sure, he is athletic but thats pretty much it. His basketball IQ is low and hasn't improved in 3 years.

To continues this debate, on a good team, I'd also rather have Terry Larrier.
 
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Lefty2one said:
Between this and your take that Larrier is the best pro prospect on the team, I'm not sure what you've been watching the last few seasons. Nothing about Adams' game says "SG". You really think Taliek Brown would start over him if Jalen was on that 2004 squad?
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I had to read this a few times to make sure I was reading this right...Taliek starts over JA without a question.
 
May surprise a few people here (lol) but Taliek starts in 2004 over Jalen. Didn't need a scoring PG needed a leader and toughness, Taliek by far better on the defensive end too which was more important at that time.
 
Another brilliant thread.
JA would not start ahead of Taliek. Not even shore he would take minutes from Rashad.
 
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borninansonia said:
If Jalen played with a good big man, he'd be one of the top passing guards in UCONN men's history. Even though he plays without a big man who can catch, never mind shoot, he is still one of the top assist guys in the conference.
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I think Jalen is a good scorer...don't consider him to be a top passer when you look at some of the guards that have come before him...think his decision making skills are average, but he's really a combo guard. Has been thrust into the point guard role due to injuries that past couple of years.

Would like to see him come back next year, play off the ball, and play less minutes so that he's fresh in the final four minutes. Also want to see the guy play mad... Good player for the program, has to have a huge year next year to be mentioned in that great category. Hope that happens.
 
Burnsbros23 said:
Eh im not a Big Jalen fan. Feel like he’s difficult to play with and plays in spurts only. Poor leader poor defender. Talented tho. Would of been interesting to see how him and alterique worked.

Bazz kemba AJ Khalid all better players.
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I think Marcus Williams was a better player as well. More well rounded offensively. Light years better to play with. Both marginal defenders.
 
intlzncster said:
I think Marcus Williams was a better player as well. More well rounded offensively. Light years better to play with. Both marginal defenders.
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As a pure PG, Marcus Williams was exponentially better.
 
The turn this thread took has me thinking...are there any UConn starting PGs of the past 15-20 years Jalen would start ahead of at their peaks?
 
All the other PGs in the last 15 years had full teams with leaders and a great coach (at least for a few years), Jalen does not. We don't know how good he could be. Once he goes to the G league, or whatever his next stop will be, I think he will surprise a lot of people here.
 
borninansonia said:
All the other PGs in the last 15 years had full teams with leaders and a great coach (at least for a few years), Jalen does not. We don't know how good he could be. Once he goes to the G league, or whatever his next stop will be, I think he will surprise a lot of people here.
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I'm confused...i do not think Jalen is a leader.
If he's not a leader, i would put him in the "follower" bucket
Not sure if I would classify a "follower" as a great player
 
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djct1999 said:
Yes, I do. I also think AJ Price, Marcus Williams, Shabazz Napier, Ryan Boatright, and Kemba Walker would as well. Go further, so would Doron Sheffer , Kevin Ollie, and Khalid El-Amin. I'd even rather have Ricky Moore. If you dig beyond your clear obsession with Jalen, you will realize he is more effective off the ball. Hence, a 2 guard. As a pg, he turns the ball over way to much, rarely gets his teammates involved, and has a poor outside shot. Sure, he is athletic but thats pretty much it. His basketball IQ is low and hasn't improved in 3 years.

To continues this debate, on a good team, I'd also rather have Terry Larrier.
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Would be better as a 2 guard.....but he has a poor outside shot. How does that work again?
 
Some are looking at what he is not; I'm picturing what he could be if he played for Calhoun or on a good team.
 
PAHusky said:
Would be better as a 2 guard.....but he has a poor outside shot. How does that work again?
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It's very simple actually. Without the ball in his hands, he doesn't have to facilitate. Anytime he gets the ball out on the wing, he is in better position to attack the rim rather than standing still on top of the key for 15 seconds. As a pg, he forces the issue. As an attacking two, he penetrates the defense much more effectively. I have seen him turn the ball over way too often to recognize he isn't a pure pg. In fact, he is a reason why the offense is so stagnant. He makes no one around him better nor does he find them easy shots. You don't have to be a stand up jump shooter to play the two which is part of the reason why Rashad never caught a whiff of the NBA.
 
djct1999 said:
It's very simple actually. Without the ball in his hands, he doesn't have to facilitate. Anytime he gets the ball out on the wing, he is in better position to attack the rim rather than standing still on top of the key for 15 seconds. As a pg, he forces the issue. As an attacking two, he penetrates the defense much more effectively. I have seen him turn the ball over way too often to recognize he isn't a pure pg. In fact, he is a reason why the offense is so stagnant. He makes no one around him better nor does he find them easy shots. You don't have to be a stand up jump shooter to play the two which is part of the reason why Rashad never caught a whiff of the NBA.
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You'd have one tremendous guard if you could throw Rashad and Jalen together and make one player - wow! They both needed the strengths of the other. I do think if Jalen works on his mid range game especially he may be able to catch on some day. Also needs to work on that body so he can stop shying away from contact. He has some tremendous moves which need him to stay away form the physical game but in the G League/NBA the guards aren't shy about driving it hard.
 
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