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businesslawyer said:
THERE IS NOT A SCINTILLA OF CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THAT ARESCO VIOLATED A FIDUCIARY DUTY TO US AND SELLING THE RIGHTS OF EVERY MEMBERS MEDIA RIGHTS TOGETHER.
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I agree with this. And frankly, I don’t see any particular motive for Aresco to purposefully act in a way that would be detrimental to UConn. My best guess from what the public knows is that you are probably right and there was nothing wrong (legally) in the way the AAC negotiated. [Albeit, the contract leaves a lot wanting from a substantive perspective. Feels like Meatball Marinatto could have negotiated a better deal.]

That said, that is a pretty big caveat. “What the public knows.” We haven’t heard anything from UConn brass about their understanding of the ESPN negotiations, what the were told by Aresco and Co., how their requests were treated, etc. Your emphasis on this subject, I think, kind of disregards the non-zero chance that Aresco became annoyed with UConn and that there is some sort of documentary evidence out there that could be harmful to the AAC.

Moreover-and maybe you know all of the particularities of UConn’s agreements with the AAC, but I don’t-what is the specific standard for a fiduciary claim in this case, as opposed to generally? Is it actually bad faith? Prudence? Or something less?

All of this is to say that, while I think UConn probably has a weak bargaining position, we-the fans- don’t know enough yet to say whether they have room to chip off something.
 
This is taking too long. :rolleyes: Are we fully independent now?! Lets go! :p

My greedy self wants an end date set for football tomorrow (semi realistically by 7/15 when AAC media days begin) so Randy can get back to recruiting with a clear story and we can get going on this SNY/independent football gig.
 
I just hope UConn or state of CT does not file a lawsuit agaInst the AAC or any of its members. We all know the mess created when Blumenthal filed his lawsuits at the end of the Big East. We need the AAC and its members to be cordial to UConn as the football team moves forward.
 
I wonder if DB has managed to call all his fellow AAC ADs by now to gauge their general feelings about UConn's transition out of the conference and to talk about future scheduling as an independent. Obviously we can throw some basketball at Temple and Cincy to keep it going as they are certainly worthy.
 
huskeynut said:
Please - just stop. We get it. Your football team got screwed. That's your opinion and its not shared by a whole lot of people.
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Your football team got screwed. too.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Did you even read what I wrote? Serving as a trustee for a single child is totally different, because you have a responsibility to that one child and just that one child. When you are a fiduciary through a business relationship, your duty is to your members/shareholders collectively. You can't have a duty to act in the best interests of each of a number of members/shareholders because often their desires and needs will differ.

The CEO of Wal-Mart has a fiduciary duty to his shareholders. Some shareholders are focused on short term gain and others on long term gain depending on their investment horizons. Some times, the CEO has to make decisions that favor one group or the other. He is not violating a fiduciary duty to those who want short term gain when he takes an action that, while favored by some stakeholders and opposed by others, he reasonably believes to be in the best interests of Wal-Mart as a whole.
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Your sarcasm meter is usually better. Did you have a tough weekend?
 
businesslawyer said:
When you are an executor, there are no diverging family interests in following the directions of the decedant and liquidating the estate's assets.
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Haha, uh hopefully, but often that that is not the case for a myriad of reasons.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
I just hope UConn or state of CT does not file a lawsuit agaInst the AAC or any of its members. We all know the mess created when Blumenthal filed his lawsuits at the end of the Big East. We need the AAC and its members to be cordial to UConn as the football team moves forward.
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Its doubtful that they would.
 
Exit 4 said:
I wonder if DB has managed to call all his fellow AAC ADs by now to gauge their general feelings about UConn's transition out of the conference and to talk about future scheduling as an independent. Obviously we can throw some basketball at Temple and Cincy to keep it going as they are certainly worthy.
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This. So much of life gets settled in the margins. Reach out to everyone and get a read where they are at. Keep in mind though, ADs have less sway than the presidents.
 
UConnJim said:
Not surprising at all that the story was broke by some random news source as they probably didn't bother to get multiple sources to confirm the story before running it. That (typically) wouldn't happen in regular media channels. Heck, the news has been rumored for at least a month and it was posted on the Boneyard on June 12th by a poster so the rumors were very strong 9 days before it was reported by a news source.

I was initially opposed to the move to the BE, but I am warming to the idea. The "big" money didn't happen with the AAC media contract and I would think there are other schools thinking about their futures. I think Houston/UCF/Cincinnati/USF/Memphis are hoping conference realignment heats up when the next P5 media deals get negotiated and they get a P5 invite. (Big 12 or reconstituted Big 12.) Temple, another hoops school, has to be wondering why they are playing in a Southern conference. Navy seems to be struggling a little as Army flourishes as an independent. With UConn going independent, Navy can have a schedule of Army, Air Force, Notre Dame, an FCS, and UConn every year and I'm sure Navy can make a good schedule.

In my opinion, the AAC will not consist of the same teams in 10 years. UConn decided to move before they were forced to make a move.
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UConnJim, I was like you, as I was initially opposed to the BE move. Now, eventhou I still have my doubts, I'm warming up to it. I will miss seeing UConn at the AAC baseball tournament in Clearwater!!
 
UConnJim said:
Not surprising at all that the story was broke by some random news source as they probably didn't bother to get multiple sources to confirm the story before running it. That (typically) wouldn't happen in regular media channels. Heck, the news has been rumored for at least a month and it was posted on the Boneyard on June 12th by a poster so the rumors were very strong 9 days before it was reported by a news source.

I was initially opposed to the move to the BE, but I am warming to the idea. The "big" money didn't happen with the AAC media contract and I would think there are other schools thinking about their futures. I think Houston/UCF/Cincinnati/USF/Memphis are hoping conference realignment heats up when the next P5 media deals get negotiated and they get a P5 invite. (Big 12 or reconstituted Big 12.) Temple, another hoops school, has to be wondering why they are playing in a Southern conference. Navy seems to be struggling a little as Army flourishes as an independent. With UConn going independent, Navy can have a schedule of Army, Air Force, Notre Dame, an FCS, and UConn every year and I'm sure Navy can make a good schedule.

In my opinion, the AAC will not consist of the same teams in 10 years. UConn decided to move before they were forced to make a move.
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I just hope that USF will at least have a few OOC games with UConn. When they played at RayJay, I was there, and once I went to the UCF-UConn game...

Us being invited to a P5 conference? I not holding out that dream...would be nice, but I doubt it.
 
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StunningSteve said:
I'm still amazed at how this story broke...

This random website nobody has ever heard of comes out with the story...

Obviously whoever was behind that website release wasn't that interested in journalism (and making a name by having a story first)…
It was clearly someone who wanted to set off a desired chain of events. Perhaps the total ruination of UConn FB, who knows.. (the Catholics simply feel threatened by any semblance of heartbeat in that program)
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That website was at the GHO when the story broke - Given that, any wagers on what Catholic school had the loose lips? Another UConn AD screwup.
 
Exit 4 said:
I wonder if DB has managed to call all his fellow AAC ADs by now to gauge their general feelings about UConn's transition out of the conference and to talk about future scheduling as an independent. Obviously we can throw some basketball at Temple and Cincy to keep it going as they are certainly worthy.
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Chief knows a lot, but one thing Chief doesn’t know.
While Suzy Herbst was uniformly unpopular with Presidents in both conferences, was Benedict’s unpopularity in the AAC because of his association with Herbst or stand alone?
I honestly don’t know?
What I think is the new President will be engaged and ultimately will be the one that makes the settlement. The story that DB sealed the deal was incorrect. The new President saved the day - if one’s goal was to get to the Big East.
 
Chief00 said:
Chief knows a lot, but one thing Chief doesn’t know.
While Suzy Herbst was uniformly unpopular with Presidents in both conferences, was Benedict’s unpopularity in the AAC because of his association with Herbst or stand alone?
I honestly don’t know?
What I think is the new President will be engaged and ultimately will be the one that makes the settlement. The story that DB sealed the deal was incorrect. The new President saved the day - if one’s goal was to get to the Big East.
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If he was unpopular in the AAC, than that's a job well done in my opinion
 
LoyalFanCT said:
Hope AD Dave Benedict can achieve something for UConn football soon. If everything remains up in the air or falls down to the ground, should UConn hire a consulting firm to work with Fox, SNY and the AAC? There are retired ADs and TV executives out there that help colleges in such situations. I am not getting a great feeling based on recent news. Hope I am wrong. The cost of the consultant may pay for itself in intermediate term.
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I don't think a consultant is needed, but what is needed are wins, and a much improved defense. That being said, retired Northwestern AD Rick Taylor has some ties to UConn going back many years, while Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz played his college football at UConn and was team captain. Not sure if many know outside of some diehards, but Bill Belichick is a UConn fan, while coaching under Ray Perkins in the Giants organization, Belichick applied for the head football coach position at UConn in 1983 but was turned down in favor of Tom Jackson. Of course people know that Todd Orlando, Rob Ambrose, and Joe Morehead went on to bigger and better things.
 
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Wow. Herbert was unpopilular with both leagues, the student body, the State legislature. Is there a Daniel Malloy award for college presidents? I haven’t seen a college President this unpopular since Claire Guadiani got chased out of New London. Well maybe the guy st Penn State when the scandal hit. Didn’t he go to the slammer. But those two are the only competition. And the Penn State guy had a few defenders.
 
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freescooter said:
Wow. Herbert was unpopilular with both leagues, the student body, the State legislature. Is there a Daniel Malloy award for college presidents? I haven’t seen a college President this unpopular since Claire Guadiani got chased out of New London. Well maybe the guy st Penn State when the scandal hit. Didn’t he go to the slammer. But those two are the only competition. And the Penn State guy had a few defenders.
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I’m not totally positive but under Herbst UConn academic standings skyrocketed. Unfortunately she or anyone else could dance on their heads and it would not get us into a power 5
 
Slick said:
I’m not totally positive but under Herbst UConn academic standings skyrocketed. Unfortunately she or anyone else could dance on their heads and it would not get us into a power 5
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She had excellent academic management qualifications, and the school has enjoyed continually better rankings resulting from a convergence of factors, including skyrocketing costs of education and it’s national sports standing, that boosted applications and overall selectivity. Susan’s vision was about being a research university and all the other stuff uninteresting noise and lip service. Her inability to grasp the criticality of collegiate sports standing in the overall picture of desirability, brand awareness, licensing revenue, alumni relations, and fund raising was staggering. But, we have a nice little incubation research facility in a field of grass on the edge of nowhere.
 
BlueDogs said:
She had excellent academic management qualifications, and the school has enjoyed continually better rankings resulting from a convergence of factors, including skyrocketing costs of education and it’s national sports standing, that boosted applications and overall selectivity. Susan’s vision was about being a research university and all the other stuff uninteresting noise and lip service. Her inability to grasp the criticality of collegiate sports standing in the overall picture of desirability, brand awareness, licensing revenue, alumni relations, and fund raising was staggering. But, we have a nice little incubation research facility in a field of grass on the edge of nowhere.
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We were in the middle of two capital programs and state investment in a school is a factor in the USN&WR rankings.
 
Fishy said:
Here’s the thing - he’s right.
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I’m sorry you believe the story was leaked by sources who desire the ruinous end of UConn football?

Someone flat out told us here a month prior and at least one other person all but told us prior to that.

How exactly could UConn keep the cat in the bag when people at 10 schools knew?
 
I am not with any of this. Herbst - in standard measure - did impactful things as President of UCONN. I can take you on a nice tour today on campus lauding components.

Then. I am not sure - given the nature of conference realignment was largely in place before she arrives & the destructive decline of the latter Kevin Ollie years - that she could have done better ... or anyone could. That’s easy for Boneyard throwers. I just think she gets a modest grade in something she had little opportunity to change. The BE move, in 20 years, is her legacy. Let’s see.
 
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Pudge said:
I am not with any of this. Herbst - in standard measure - did impactful things as President of UCONN. I can take you on a nice tour today on campus lauding components.

Then. I am not sure - given the nature of conference realignment was largely in place before she arrives & the destructive decline of the latter Kevin Ollie years - that she could have done better ... or anyone could. That’s easy for Boneyard throwers. I just think she gets a modest grade in something she had little opportunity to change. The BE move, in 20 years, is her legacy. Let’s see.
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Conference alignment was still alive upon her arrival She and Warde got played like fools by Jurich, ESPN, BC and FSU. Warde got what he wanted. She got what she wanted. The rest of us were left behind.
 
whaler11 said:
I’m sorry you believe the story was leaked by sources who desire the ruinous end of UConn football?

Someone flat out told us here a month prior and at least one other person all but told us prior to that.

How exactly could UConn keep the cat in the bag when people at 10 schools knew?
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You don’t understand - It’s different when someone connected with UConn has a few drinks and has loose lips vs. random posters speculating on a blog.
No one is implying it was leaked due to some grand clever strategy - it was likely more drinks and clumsy loose lips.
 
Chief00 said:
You don’t understand - It’s different when someone connected with UConn has a few drinks and has loose lips vs. random posters speculating on a blog.
No one is implying it was leaked due to some grand clever strategy - it was likely more drinks and clumsy loose lips.
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It’s just as likely someone @ the very top of the Big East returned a favor to Terry Lyons from their time together in the NBA/WNBA offices years ago and decided to help him grow his new business venture ;)
 
buddy said:
Conference alignment was still alive upon her arrival She and Warde got played like fools by Jurich, ESPN, BC and FSU. Warde got what he wanted. She got what she wanted. The rest of us were left behind.
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Nuts

Keep believing that. Both the B1G & Louisville/ACC moves were baked by the time she arrived.
 
Pudge said:
Nuts

Keep believing that. Both the B1G & Louisville/ACC moves were baked by the time she arrived.
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Nothing is baked until it’s out of the oven. The job starts on day 1. Neither had the leadership inclination to step up to the plate. Both shrank in the moment when decisive action and commitment all the way up the State Capitol was needed.
 
Pudge said:
I am not with any of this. Herbst - in standard measure - did impactful things as President of UCONN. I can take you on a nice tour today on campus lauding components.

Then. I am not sure - given the nature of conference realignment was largely in place before she arrives & the destructive decline of the latter Kevin Ollie years - that she could have done better ... or anyone could. That’s easy for Boneyard throwers. I just think she gets a modest grade in something she had little opportunity to change. The BE move, in 20 years, is her legacy. Let’s see.
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There are some floating a rumor that this was all the new president's idea and Herbst had little to do with it. That seems absurd at first glance since he publicly stated before that football will continue to be played at UCONN. I'm highly skeptical, but I also would be surprised if he hasn't been in on this process. It's not something you would want to drop blindly onto a new president's desk on his first day in the office. They also wouldn't have wanted him finding out about it by surprise like the rest of us did. It will be very interesting to see what he has to say about football after he gets settled in.

BTW, if they kill the football program sometime soon, no matter what we accomplish in the NBE, Herbst's long term legacy will include that she axed football and killed whatever slim chance we had of making a P5 league.
 
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