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Let teams worry about another facet of UConn's game. Giffey, Napier, Boatright and even Kromah can handle the 3-pt. duties. And I say this knowing Omar is decent from 3. But those two are the best on the team at shooting from mid-range.
 

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As long as Omar continues to hit the 3, he should take them. I agree 100% with Daniels. He needs to play towards the basket more.
 
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Omar can't be a mid-range-dominant player because of his release. He either shoots from deep or gets in close to the rim. The pull-up from 12-15 feet is not his game, and shouldn't be.
 
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Omar can't be a mid-range-dominant player because of his release. He either shoots from deep or gets in close to the rim. The pull-up from 12-15 feet is not his game, and shouldn't be.

He's excellent at 12-15. Doesn't miss. Are we watching the same kid?
 
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I sort of agree with respect to Daniels, mostly because he's been frigid from three and he's pretty close to automatic from 12-15 feet, but there's a reason the mid range jumper has gone the way of the dodo bird. Omar hits threes at a pretty high clip - no reason to give up the extra point if their spacing is giving him good looks, and it looks like Ollie is (rightly) placing an emphasis on it.
 
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Calhoun is a very good 3 pt shooter. He had a bad game.

From a more theory standpoint, he HAS to take those 3 ptrs to spread the floor and allow our PnR game to flourish.

Shoot Omar Shoot
 
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No reason for Daniels and Calhoun to not shoot from three when they're open. If you can pass up a three for a better shot, by all means do it, but if the defense is conceding the shot, you have to take it.
 
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Am I the only one that is seeing that Bazz keeps passing up good, open jump shots?

This is not a knock on Bazz. I love how he is distributing the ball this season... it's unreal. However, I can't help but notice that sometimes, he has a great look and will pump fake and drive to kick it back out to a shooter. This usually isn't bad but sometimes those shooters don't have as good as a look as he did. I understand what he's trying to do but sometimes it just doesn't seem worth it to pass up a great look with a player as good as Bazz. There were also a few times today where he did the same thing except instead of kicking it back out, forced a well-contested floater or lay-up.

Anyways, I don't really see this as a problem. Bazz will know when to take over a game later in the season if need be. It would just be nice to see him take some of those open looks from time to time. Can't question someone who's pretty much averaging a triple dub though.

Edit: only reason why I posted in this thread was because we were on the topic of passing up good looks.
 

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Am I the only one that is seeing that Bazz keeps passing up good, open jump shots?

This is not a knock on Bazz. I love how he is distributing the ball this season... it's unreal. However, I can't help but notice that sometimes, he has a great look and will pump fake and drive to kick it back out to a shooter. This usually isn't bad but sometimes those shooters don't have as good as a look as he did. I understand what he's trying to do but sometimes it just doesn't seem worth it to pass up a great look with a player as good as Bazz. There were also a few times today where he did the same thing except instead of kicking it back out, forced a well-contested floater or lay-up.

Anyways, I don't really see this as a problem. Bazz will know when to take over a game later in the season if need be. It would just be nice to see him take some of those open looks from time to time. Can't question someone who's pretty much averaging a triple dub though.

Come February he won't be"over passing" especially once he gets in the lane. Right now he's getting a feel for his teammates and getting them max looks. He building up a bank roll for games later on when he's gonna take 25 shots.
 
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It certainly would help with all the 3-2 zone we will see because of all the new rule changes this year.
 
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I just think it shows how unselfish of a player Shabazz is. He could easily pump up his scoring average by taking 20 shots per game. I think he knows his ticket to the NBA is being a true PG that doesnt turn the ball over and makes his teammates better.
 
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I want Niels and Daniels planted top of the key when there's zone.
 
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Napier is has really worked on being as efficient as possible, just look at his A/T ratio , 3PT % . Anyway, @tcf15 hook up some deandre highlights
 

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Am I the only one that is seeing that Bazz keeps passing up good, open jump shots?

This is not a knock on Bazz. I love how he is distributing the ball this season... it's unreal. However, I can't help but notice that sometimes, he has a great look and will pump fake and drive to kick it back out to a shooter. This usually isn't bad but sometimes those shooters don't have as good as a look as he did. I understand what he's trying to do but sometimes it just doesn't seem worth it to pass up a great look with a player as good as Bazz. There were also a few times today where he did the same thing except instead of kicking it back out, forced a well-contested floater or lay-up.

Anyways, I don't really see this as a problem. Bazz will know when to take over a game later in the season if need be. It would just be nice to see him take some of those open looks from time to time. Can't question someone who's pretty much averaging a triple dub though.

Edit: only reason why I posted in this thread was because we were on the topic of passing up good looks.
When BU went up one he took the shots. He's just developing the rest of the team. You could see they made a concerted effort to get DD involved. Less penetration and kick out in this game.
 

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Daniels is unstoppable from 15 feet in. He needs to stop chucking 3's.
 

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I love DD and OC from the mid-range but OC has also been very effective from 3 when it has been an inside-out pass. Most players shoot better from this type of pass. Given our depth and multiple players who can drive and kick, the only 3s taken by most players should be the kickout 3 , unless it is an end of shot clock situation
 
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Napier is has really worked on being as efficient as possible, just look at his A/T ratio , 3PT % . Anyway, @tcf15 hook up some deandre highlights
I got you. Working on game highlights. Should be up soon.
 
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I want Niels and Daniels planted top of the key when there's zone.

This is how we will beat zones this year. Daniels can flash to the foul line and get as many open 14 foot shots as he wants. Same for Niels, who can also kick out to open wing shooters if the defense collapses.
 
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Am I the only one that is seeing that Bazz keeps passing up good, open jump shots?

This is not a knock on Bazz. I love how he is distributing the ball this season... it's unreal. However, I can't help but notice that sometimes, he has a great look and will pump fake and drive to kick it back out to a shooter. This usually isn't bad but sometimes those shooters don't have as good as a look as he did. I understand what he's trying to do but sometimes it just doesn't seem worth it to pass up a great look with a player as good as Bazz. There were also a few times today where he did the same thing except instead of kicking it back out, forced a well-contested floater or lay-up.

Anyways, I don't really see this as a problem. Bazz will know when to take over a game later in the season if need be. It would just be nice to see him take some of those open looks from time to time. Can't question someone who's pretty much averaging a triple dub though.

Edit: only reason why I posted in this thread was because we were on the topic of passing up good looks.
I notice the same thing, it driving crazy, because down the road it might cost a game or 2, in basketball always take the 1st open clean shot
 
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He's excellent at 12-15. Doesn't miss. Are we watching the same kid?

Yes. He rarely shoots from 12-15. He has no pull-up jump shot but has a repertoire of half-hooks and runners when he gets a little closer (5-8 feet).
 

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While I agree that Calhoun is deadly from 12-15 and even near the tin and that he has ugly form, he is shooting very well from three this year (air balls or no).

Since 01-02 these are the players that have shot 40% or better from 3 with 20+ attempts:

Caron 40% 01-02
Gordan, 41, 42, 43 from 01-02 to 03-04
Robertson 43, 40 01-02 and 02-03
D. Brown 42 02-03
Anderson 41, 41 in 03-04 and 05-06
Gay 47% in 04-05
Williams 40, 40 in 04-05 and 05-06

Then comes a pretty horrendous shooting slump from the team:
Robinson 42% in 07-08
AJ 40% in 08-09
Giffey 43% in 11-12 (21 attempts)

Obviously his percentage could go up or down from here but from the first four games he's shot pretty well.

Daniels needs to focus closer to the tin, he's been pretty poor from 3 so far.

BTW: Napier now leads the team on 3PT% after Giffeys poor shooting last game, well, only poor for him.
 
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Omar needs to work on his shot selection. He's fine when taking good shots, but he is still taking questionable ones too often IMO.
 
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Omar needs to work on his shot selection. He's fine when taking good shots, but he is still taking questionable ones too often IMO.

This is also why I want him closer to the rim. There is no bad shot for him the closer he gets. Especially coming off the baseline.
 
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Omar is shooting 43% from 3 this year 9 for 21, which should warrant the green light from deep. Sure he can improve his shot selection, but you have to admit when he's feeling it he's deadly from long range. UConn's major strength this year is 3 point shooting, so I don't know why we should change that. As a team we're shooting almost 53% from 3, and I don't know where that ranks but we have to be one of the 5 best in the country. I agree with Upstater on Daniels tho.
 

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Omar is shooting 43% from 3 this year 9 for 21, which should warrant the green light from deep. Sure he can improve his shot selection, but you have to admit when he's feeling it he's deadly from long range. UConn's major strength this year is 3 point shooting, so I don't know why we should change that. As a team we're shooting almost 53% from 3, and I don't know where that ranks but we have to be one of the 5 best in the country. I agree with Upstater on Daniels tho.

Currently 2nd in the country. Things should even out with Daniels getting into the 30s and Napier and Giffey dropping down into the 40s.
 
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