I don't want to slip way in the darkness of the night.

[sportsart]

I'm with Palatine on this issue. As the Holocaust survivers say, "Never forget!" I was in a cattleman's style steakhouse in Tucson the day after the game, about to plunge into a choice cut of beef & all the sides, when I looked up at the tv screen in the bar & saw FHCRE's face plastered on the screen. After I read the subtitles, I almost lost my appetite. It still stings, especially toll it took on the program. I'm totally behind HCBD, & hope that he can clean up the mess & get UConn football back to major bowl eligibility on a consistent basis.

Really?

 

[sportsart]

Holocaust = Edsall. Hey Jimmy...wuz up?

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Holocaust = Edsall. Hey Jimmy...wuz up?

I'm quite sure coachcap regrets the analogy.

 

[Palatine]

Holocaust = Edsall. Hey Jimmy...wuz up?

Probably just not an over sensitive politically correct sort. He didn't make the comparison that you unfairly used. Just cited the phrase.

 

[sportsart]

Probably just not an over sensitive politically correct sort. He didn't make the comparison that you unfairly used. Just cited the phrase.

Pal...when you started this thread I almost chimed in, that once you meet Palatine, you'll get to like him. With that said. Please don't try and twist what he said.

Like Jimmy said, coachcap most certainly would phrase things differently given a second chance. But the comparison was clear.

 

[Palatine]

The comparison was NOT between Edsall and the Holocaust. That is a complete fabrication. It's downright idiotic.

In fact, there was no comparison between Edsall or the holocaust at all.

The point was that is is important to remember the past or you are doomed to repeat it. He used an a group of people (yes, extreme) to present the example. If there was any comparison and I don't believe one was implied, it was between our esteemed Palatine and survivors.

But in our present society, when the first person to be offended wins, I'm not surprised someone went there.

 

[Waquoit]

.. our second loss to Western Michigan in two years...

What more would one need?

 

[Waquoit]

Remember, HCRE said he would be at UConn for "along as you'll have me", then he went back to working the phones.

 

[coachcap]

The comparison was NOT between Edsall and the Holocaust. That is a complete fabrication. It's downright idiotic.

In fact, there was no comparison between Edsall or the holocaust at all.

The point was that is is important to remember the past or you are doomed to repeat it. He used an a group of people (yes, extreme) to present the example. If there was any comparison and I don't believe one was implied, it was between our esteemed Palatine and survivors.

But in our present society, when the first person to be offended wins, I'm not surprised someone went there.

Thank you. I might have been over the top this morning.

 

[gars44]

I hate the idea of rehashing this but I can't help but respond to the above:

If (and this is a large concession) the above is true, there still begs the question why did he tell Jordan Todman before the game that if that was to be his last game at UConn he owed it to the team to let them know prior to kickoff?

I have no personal knowledge. Just something I heard from someone in the "company." Probably BS.

 

[gars44]

Remember, HCRE said he would be at UConn for "along as you'll have me", then he went back to working the phones.

What do you say to your employer?
Edit: That's a little ambiguous. You want to leave. You're interested in something else. But you've got a good gig. While you're looking around, what are you supposed to say?

 

[gars44]

But in our present society, when the first person to be offended wins, I'm not surprised someone went there.

Interesting observation. It is thought provoking, but I really don't agree with that sentiment. I think it's a little too negative. Most people don't side with the first person to complain. And in this thread, for example, most of us didn't.
Edit: But I would agree with Coach Cap that maybe it was a wee bit too little bitty not what we should be comparing things to-ish.

 

[BlueMAB]

Two coaches removed, a fantastic hire and promising future, and people just can't get edsall off their mind. Unfortunate.

Energy vampires.

 

[sportsart]

Here's the bottom line. A man spends over 10 years building a solid foundation for a Div 1 program and left his job like an a.s.shole. Another man comes in and does nothing but destroy the program. Adds zero value.

Three years later the first man still gets trashed and nobody says anything. The second man has been gone for a few months and we are told we should lighten up on man number two in regards to the "old" jokes.

Then the Holocaust comment comes up. Now I don't believe for a moment coachcap believes what Randy did compares with the Holocaust. It was just a bad analogy by a good guy.

My reaction was basically because it seems silly to back off on the old jokes when Randy keeps getting blasted like this 3 years later when he did 100 times the amount of good the old man did.

I rarely jump in during the Edsall bashing on here because frankly I don't care that much anymore. He's gone. I will jump in when he gets blame for he shouldn't, i.e., empty cupboard, etc.

Frankly there is too much good going on around the program to be bashing either one of them.

 

[formerlurker]

WTF? Doesn't anyone else come here for good, old-fashion UCONN information, conversation and debate?

I'm here for UCONN news and to have a few shts and giggles.

I have no idea what the inter-board feuds some of you have going on are but the fact that there's a debate that's comparing The Holocaust to something about our football program is pretty fcking weak.

None of us can bitch about being in the AAC when the content of this board isn't even worthy of that distinction.

Can we drop the Real Housewive's bulsht and focus on the football?

 

[Palatine]

Precisely because Randy was here ten years, he is a figure that comes up in the legitimate discussion of UConn football. Diaco's quote directly related to how Edsall left town.

P. has been round criticized for years on this board. I suspect that will continue for years, as well as the occasional shot at GDL. Both worked hard become objects of ire.

We talk about the past, present and future of the Huskies here. These are football discussions. If you don't want to talk about Edsall. Don't spend time on this thread.

 

[ZooCougar]

PGDL did more damage than good, almost nobody doubts that.

The thing that frustrated me the most with Randy, is that you could tell he was done here after a certain point. At some point he was just doing the same thing here every year, and he was out of ideas. It was really frustrating because you can tell he is a smart guy who ought to have kept progressing the program. But recruiting flatlined. The offense was rarely dyanamic, QBs seemed to get worse as their career... And host of other issues, to include the fact that the Fiesta Bowl team wasn't even close to being our best team.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in one aspect. Hathaway didn't get it, and he did little enhance UConn's relationship,with Edsall. We really needed more money to pay assistants. We lost some key assistant coaches and clearly those guys would have stayed if they were paid more.

So in summary, after a certain point, we stopped getting Randy's very best, but Hathaway wasn't exactly giving Randy even close to the level of support that he needed in order to want to stay.