Huskies of Honor Defective?

[RockyMTblue2]

Does anyone seriously doubt that 3 Huskies of Honor banners should go up Saturday night? Something wrong when you hand the decision to those who arbitrarily limit a team's #es. Morgan had the ppg award last NCAA and has been the glue for 4 years. Just sayin'.

 

[JS]

Isn't first team AA a criterion? Morgan may yet get there this year or (hopefully) next, but she hasn't achieved that yet.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Isn't first team AA a criterion? Morgan may yet get there this year or (hopefully) next, but she hasn't achieved that yet.

That, indeed, is my point. It's broken if she isn't up there.

 

[Blueballer]

That, indeed, is my point. It's broken if she isn't up there.

It's not broken. They have to have a reasonable criteria for making the wall. Morgan may not get up on the wall til after this season if the list comes out at the Final 4 and she is an AA. Perhaps even something that could part of a victory rally? Have they done that before? Trying to recall.

 

[HoopsFan21]

If she leaves after this season, she will have played in about 3 year's worth of games accounting for all the time missed due to her knee injuries. Statistically will she leave in the top 5 in any all-time categories or special statistical "clubs?" In our current run of national championships, how instrumental was she in those title games? In two of the three she had no impact.

 

[Huskies Rule]

It's not right that UConn bases its highest individual WBB award, the Husky of Honor, upon the often biased and politically correct decisions of corrupt organizations like the NCAA. It's like the tail (ass, really) telling the dog what to do. UConn does not need to wait for some arbitrary committee to tell us who can become a Husky of Honor just because, wow, they were selected as a first team "All-American" by some outsiders.

Especially when we know (as Doris Burke said last year) that no team is allowed to have more than two first-team AA's. Burke stated numerous times (and we UConn fans already knew) that Morgan Tuck was an absolute first-team All-American, but she did not receive the honor she deserved because three kids from the same team could not be named. So an arbitrary 'rule' kept a deserving Morgan Tuck off the first-team and thus off the Huskies of Honor wall. That's blatantly unfair and wrong.

UConn should put together a blue ribbon selection panel of its own, made up of people who are a knowledgeable and informed part of the UConn WCBB community, people like Rebecca Lobo, Meg Culmo, Kara Wolters, CD/Geno, the athletic director, to make that important determination of Husky of Honor.

Because whether Morgan makes first-team AA this year or not (and she likely won't), she is unquestionably deserving to be a Husky of Honor. Morgan Tuck should be included among the Huskies of Honor.

Defective indeed, RockyMTblue.

 

[Blueballer]

It's not right that UConn bases its highest individual WBB award, the Husky of Honor, upon the often biased and politically correct decisions of corrupt organizations like the NCAA. It's like the tail (ass, really) telling the dog what to do. UConn does not need to wait for some arbitrary committee to tell us who can become a Husky of Honor just because, wow, they were selected as a first team "All-American" by some outsiders.

Especially when we know (as Doris Burke said last year) that no team is allowed to have more than two first-team AA's. Burke stated numerous times (and we UConn fans already knew) that Morgan Tuck was an absolute first-team All-American, but she did not receive the honor she deserved because three kids from the same team could not be named. So an arbitrary 'rule' kept a deserving Morgan Tuck off the first-team and thus off the Huskies of Honor wall. That's blatantly unfair and wrong.

UConn should put together a blue ribbon selection panel of its own, made up of people who are a knowledgeable and informed part of the UConn WCBB community, people like Rebecca Lobo, Meg Culmo, Kara Wolters, CD/Geno, the athletic director, to make that important determination of Husky of Honor.

Because whether Morgan makes first-team AA this year or not (and she likely won't), she is unquestionably deserving to be a Husky of Honor. Morgan Tuck should be included among the Huskies of Honor.

Defective indeed, RockyMTblue.

If you open that door you can be sure if Geno has any say that Jamelle Elliott would be at the TOP of any "Huskies Of Honor" list not being an AA. And Asjha Jones would have to be considered as well.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

It's not right that UConn bases its highest individual WBB award, the Husky of Honor, upon the often biased and politically correct decisions of corrupt organizations like the NCAA. It's like the tail (ass, really) telling the dog what to do. UConn does not need to wait for some arbitrary committee to tell us who can become a Husky of Honor just because, wow, they were selected as a first team "All-American" by some outsiders.

Especially when we know (as Doris Burke said last year) that no team is allowed to have more than two first-team AA's. Burke stated numerous times (and we UConn fans already knew) that Morgan Tuck was an absolute first-team All-American, but she did not receive the honor she deserved because three kids from the same team could not be named. So an arbitrary 'rule' kept a deserving Morgan Tuck off the first-team and thus off the Huskies of Honor wall. That's blatantly unfair and wrong.

UConn should put together a blue ribbon selection panel of its own, made up of people who are a knowledgeable and informed part of the UConn WCBB community, people like Rebecca Lobo, Meg Culmo, Kara Wolters, CD/Geno, the athletic director, to make that important determination of Husky of Honor.

Because whether Morgan makes first-team AA this year or not (and she likely won't), she is unquestionably deserving to be a Husky of Honor. Morgan Tuck should be included among the Huskies of Honor.

Defective indeed, RockyMTblue.

Thank you for going into the background that I was not energetic enough to put forward. Frankly, I cannot remember anyone last year who would defend Morgan not being a first team AA. It's beyond ridiculous.

 

[Blueballer]

It's not right that UConn bases its highest individual WBB award, the Husky of Honor, upon the often biased and politically correct decisions of corrupt organizations like the NCAA. It's like the tail (ass, really) telling the dog what to do. UConn does not need to wait for some arbitrary committee to tell us who can become a Husky of Honor just because, wow, they were selected as a first team "All-American" by some outsiders.

Especially when we know (as Doris Burke said last year) that no team is allowed to have more than two first-team AA's. Burke stated numerous times (and we UConn fans already knew) that Morgan Tuck was an absolute first-team All-American, but she did not receive the honor she deserved because three kids from the same team could not be named. So an arbitrary 'rule' kept a deserving Morgan Tuck off the first-team and thus off the Huskies of Honor wall. That's blatantly unfair and wrong.

UConn should put together a blue ribbon selection panel of its own, made up of people who are a knowledgeable and informed part of the UConn WCBB community, people like Rebecca Lobo, Meg Culmo, Kara Wolters, CD/Geno, the athletic director, to make that important determination of Husky of Honor.

Because whether Morgan makes first-team AA this year or not (and she likely won't), she is unquestionably deserving to be a Husky of Honor. Morgan Tuck should be included among the Huskies of Honor.

Defective indeed, RockyMTblue.

Is that a new rule or Doris's rule? Because my research reveals that in 1999 TENN had 3 players that were AA's.
Tamika Catchings, Chamique Holdsclaw & Semeka Randall

 

[EricLA]

You could always make an argument that others belong.

Bascom, Lobo, Rizotti, Wolters, Sales, Abrosimova, Ralph, Bird, Cash, Taurasi, Montgomery, Charles, Moore, Dolson, Hartley, KML. They are all on the wall.

What about Jones, Williams, Hayes and Strother? Is there any doubt that those guys either had a ton to do with winning NC's, or had great individual stats? Yet they aren't Huskies of honor. Does Tuck deserve to be there? Not if you go by the criteria. Do we wish she was or would be up there? She may still end up there. But there are some great Huskies who didn't make the cut...

 

[Huskyhoops]

Perhaps the walls need to be knocked down and larger ones erected. It is already getting pretty crowded up there.

 

[Wbbfan1]

A team can only have 3 nominations and last year Uconn nominated KML, Stewie and Moriah. Not sure it would have been fair to exclude any of the three to nominate Morgan. All three were WBCA All Americans. I suspect Morgan Moriah and Stewie will be nominated this year and Morgan has a great chance of being an All American due to her body of work while at UConn.

 

[UcMiami]

Couple of things:
1. It is not the NCAA that votes for any of the AA teams nor the NPOY nor the Lieberman so we can do away with think it is a conspiracy of a corrupt institution.

2. Is there any name on the wall that does not belong? I certainly am not prepared to remove any name up there to replace it with someone else. So I think most would say that the criteria being used has worked pretty well in terms of the people that have been selected.

3. Most of us can come up with at least one name we wish was on the wall - really really old-timers probably would like someone from the first few teams, old timers want Eliot, mid period would vote for Jones or Williams or Strother or _____, more recent arrivals would clamor for Faris or Tuck or _____. If we had a thread to select one additional honoree it would go on longer and be more acrimonious than our multiple 'Best Ever ____' threads and it would never be able to settle on a single name.

4. The current selection criteria, beyond getting worthy people onto the wall is also doing so at a reasonable rate of about one a year - on a team that seldom has more than 12 players that seems to be about right - not too many to water down the honor and not too few to fail to recognize at least one player associated with each years team.

5. MOST IMPORTANTLY - pretty much everyone who would be selected by a panel or by a fan vote for inclusion is ALREADY represented on the wall by the only banners any of them really cared about during their four years of playing - they are called championship banners. And Morgan is already up there 3 times. And not only is she up there, but her fellow senior Briana Pulido is up there as well and if you asked Morgan, she would be more proud to be sharing that banner with Pulido and all her other teammates, than to be singled out as an individual.

 

[alexrgct]

Does anyone seriously doubt that 3 Huskies of Honor banners should go up Saturday night? Something wrong when you hand the decision to those who arbitrarily limit a team's #es. Morgan had the ppg award last NCAA and has been the glue for 4 years. Just sayin'.

The sole criterion for making the Wall is to earn first team AA status, for which making the WBCA team qualifies. Stewie and Moriah made a First Team AA oalready and will again, but Tuck has not. If she does it this season, Uconn will figure out a way to honor her after she's graduated.

 

[RSHERMVIKES]

There are several AA teams that count not just AP. As Wbbfan1 said above WBCA has AA list with 10 spots I think! And usually 3 not 2 is the limit! But IMO if a team is so dominant, as UCONN is, then 3, 4 or so shouldn't be questioned!
Stewie SF, MoJeff PG, & Tuck SF are all the best at their positions in WCBB and should be 1st team AA on ANY POLL!
Last year the 3 above with Tuck at C with Stewie at PF & MoJeff at PG, and KML at SF were all the best at their positions in WCBB and should have made ALL AA polls!

 

[UcMiami]

There are several AA teams that count not just AP. As Wbbfan1 said above WBCA has AA list with 10 spots I think! And usually 3 not 2 is the limit! But IMO if a team is so dominant, as UCONN is, then 3, 4 or so shouldn't be questioned!
Stewie SF, MoJeff PG, & Tuck SF are all the best at their positions in WCBB and should be 1st team AA on ANY POLL!
Last year the 3 above with Tuck at C with Stewie at PF & MoJeff at PG, and KML at SF were all the best at their positions in WCBB and should have made ALL AA polls!

The WBCA award is site because it is a ten player award and seldom is someone a first team AA on one of the 5 player award teams who is then left out of the ten player WBCA award - not sure it has ever happened.
For the NPOY awards, those have much more frequently been split between multiple players and Uconn does not distinguish between the awards on the wall, though they do in the media guide. Specific to Uconn, Tina and Maya each one at least one NPOY award in Tina's senior year so they are both listed for that year on there respective banners.

 

[DaddyChoc]

put Stokes on the wall...

 

[OldAlum]

There are so many former Husky players who never got AA that we wish could be "on the Wall". But I think the current system of requiring AA status is likely the best. It removed personal preference or bias and is out of the hands of the folks at UConn. I wouldn't want to put the coaches in the position of making more subjective choices with vague criteria.
As fans, we remember many great players even if they don't receive this particular honor.

 

[alexrgct]

It's not right that UConn bases its highest individual WBB award, the Husky of Honor, upon the often biased and politically correct decisions of corrupt organizations like the NCAA. It's like the tail (ass, really) telling the dog what to do. UConn does not need to wait for some arbitrary committee to tell us who can become a Husky of Honor just because, wow, they were selected as a first team "All-American" by some outsiders.

Especially when we know (as Doris Burke said last year) that no team is allowed to have more than two first-team AA's. Burke stated numerous times (and we UConn fans already knew) that Morgan Tuck was an absolute first-team All-American, but she did not receive the honor she deserved because three kids from the same team could not be named. So an arbitrary 'rule' kept a deserving Morgan Tuck off the first-team and thus off the Huskies of Honor wall. That's blatantly unfair and wrong.

UConn should put together a blue ribbon selection panel of its own, made up of people who are a knowledgeable and informed part of the UConn WCBB community, people like Rebecca Lobo, Meg Culmo, Kara Wolters, CD/Geno, the athletic director, to make that important determination of Husky of Honor.

Because whether Morgan makes first-team AA this year or not (and she likely won't), she is unquestionably deserving to be a Husky of Honor. Morgan Tuck should be included among the Huskies of Honor.

Defective indeed, RockyMTblue.

Three kids were honored by WBCA on multiple occasions, including 2002, 2009, 2014, and 2015. The rule Doris cited was against nominating four from the same team. As KML graduated, this season's Uconn squad has room for one more in addition to Stewie and Moriah. Tuck Norris has been well hyped and highly regarded all year.

 

[alexrgct]

Just for the sake of record keeping:


2002: Swin, Sue, Diana

2009: Maya, Tina, Monty

2014: Stef, Bria, Stewie

2015: Stewie, Mo, KML

These are the previous years' honorees when three kids were named to the WBCA AA team. Coincidentally enough, Uconn won NCs in all four of these seasons.

 

[UcMiami]

I could see a time somewhere in the distant future where Uconn wasn't dominant and they might consider occasionally adding a past player to the wall, but I hope that future is a long long way away.

When they first started the idea during the 2006-7 season they really didn't have a fixed plan, but decided to start with first team AA's - at that point 10 total players. If the parade of AAs had slowed in any way, they might have considered some additional criteria, but in the intervening years there have been eight additional players to earn the right to be added. That is basically one each year so it has become a pretty fixed rule.

 

[alexrgct]

The WBCA award is site because it is a ten player award and seldom is someone a first team AA on one of the 5 player award teams who is then left out of the ten player WBCA award - not sure it has ever happened.
For the NPOY awards, those have much more frequently been split between multiple players and Uconn does not distinguish between the awards on the wall, though they do in the media guide. Specific to Uconn, Tina and Maya each one at least one NPOY award in Tina's senior year so they are both listed for that year on there respective banners.

As is D in 2004, whose Uconn team struggled a bit that season with five losses and (gasp!) a #2 seed in the tourney. She had to share NPOY honors with Alana Beard. Some day, maybe even this season (given how lauded Moriah is), there will be another example of two or more uconn kids up in that section of gampel for the same season. Today, we have to be content with 2010.

there are six distinct NPOY awards( Wade, Wooden, Naismith, USBWA, AP, Honda), and to your point, winning one or more puts a young lady on record as one of the NPOY winners from previous seasons. Stewie took four such awards in 2014 and swept all six last season. If she finishes her college career with 16 NPOY trophies, her room will be almost as cluttered as Maya's.