I disagree. HCJM is stating the fact that for the FB program to be relevant a move to a P5 conference will help recruiting. Mora and staff are recruiting at best they can. There was no excuse nor complain, just facts.
Couldn't agree more. I'm still amazed that some of you have a wait and see attitude about coach Mora. Accept the fact that we have one of the best coaches in all of football and get ready to enjoy the ride.
The NBE is not the BE
Thank you. It's exactly the point I'm making. Is it a good basketball conference? Of course. But if you take Nova, Creighton and St. Johns out that's a mid major at best. Like I said before I'd much rather play Cincy, Houston, BYU, Baylor, WVU and Ok State every year than Marquette, Depaul, Seton Hall, Providence and Xavier.
If there are 50+ non-p5 schools recruiting better than him, then how is not being in a P5 preventing him from recruiting like all those schools?
?? Why?Xavier has top team, Marquette is excellent, Seton Hall is coming back. What’s your logic?
I'm not saying they're bad. Big East still has good basketball, but I personally would rather them play the Big 12 opponents every year then the majority of the current iteration of the BE.
I think the biggest hurdle for Mora so far is developing the relationship with high school coaches in the NE. He has a lot of connections out west which he's been using, but I think he's developing more of a pipeline for him to recruit locally and expand. Sort of like Geno and Jim did when they first arrived.
He's only been here 18 months and his initial recruiting took us to a bowl game. It's only gotten stronger from there. "Passable maybe"? Let's try to be a bit realistic.
I don't see judging him on 1st year recruiting when started job the end of November. Once you get past the top 500 to 1000 recruits (that's mostly top 35 to 50 programs) not sure raters can tell recruiting class # 75 from #110. Also, not being in a conference is not likely to be a big selling feature, if not a down right negative to a lot of recruits.
Which recruits of his were major players in taking us to a bowl game? It was people who were already here or on board with coming to UConn prior to him. Hardly any of his players broke the two deep.
Yeah and that's what I see him as. Fantastic guy at building long lasting relationships. And maybe its the name or my excitement about how he has coached the team so much better than prior coaches, but perhaps I was expecting too much, too early.
I am judging him on two years of recruiting. We are almost at signing his third class here this December.
Are you just trying to be edgy, or contrary for fun? The man just took us to a bowl game in year 1 with a team that most thought might win 2 games. The best recruiting he did was keeping Jackson Mitchell, Vic Rosa and Christen Haynes here. On top of that our recruiting is as based on our team ranking as anything. Once you get past 50th or so in the rankings it’s a crapshoot. I’m amazed at the results last year, especially considering the injuries to our RB’s, QB’s and WR’s. I expect another step this year.
Seriously? You can tell that from their resumes how?
Cole Welliver!!! Enough about Mora's recruiting results and lack of, comparing to the other 50 or 500 other fictional coaches.
It's not edgy or contrary to say that I think the guy is doing a great job as a coach, which I did above and said multiple times, and then also point out his weakness. Even he admits that he is not getting the people he wants to get. I am not sure what's edgy or contrary about that at all. The only difference I have with how Mora feels about the situation is that I don't believe the P5 thing is the main issue because other non-P5 coaches do a better job. Maybe that changes with the relationships he builds and the new QB is a good sign, but I don't think there are many, if any objective people who can sit there and look at his coaching vs his recruiting so far and not notice a drastic difference.
The G5s with great results, the ones that got bumped up to FBS had heavy investments in coaching staffs far beyond anything UConn has come close to. UConn has correctly, chose to invest its resources in mens and womens BB. An invite to a P5 will bring necessary revenue to up the investment in FB bigly. Going all in BB has UConn in a position to get the call up. The criticism against UConn continues to be they dont invest in FB. While i disagree with this from a facilities standpoint, i cannot when it comes to paying for coaches.
Granted the recruiting rankings might not be accurate within 10 or 20 and you can never tell how things will turn out, but according to all the recruiting ranking services its not the G5 with great results that are ahead, its every single team in FBS football. We also invest and have been investing more in football amongst the top of the G5 for some time, so I don't see how that is an excuse here either.