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“The mistakes made us look like a poorly coached team”… really Danny? That’s the definition of a poorly coached team. Don’t fix the same inbounding issue for multiple games. Have the same tentative guy inbounding. Draw up a high risk full court pass. Blow healthy leads under 1 minute twice?
 
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“The mistakes made us look like a poorly coached team”… really Danny? That’s the definition of a poorly coached team. Don’t fix the same inbounding issue for multiple games. Have the same tentative guy inbounding. Draw up a high risk full court pass. Blow healthy leads under 1 minute twice?
How bout saying “the coaches failed this team today?” Own the stench that you threw out there for ONCE
 

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I don’t think Hurley has done a marvelous job with this particular group. There are a few guys getting minutes when they have not produced anything all year and there are some players who we keep hearing about how we need a spark from them and they never get in the game.

But we lost two underclassmen the draft and this isn’t Duke where ESPN recruits for us, so I am not surprised that there was a step back. You also gotta nail the portal these days and after a few years of wizardry, we did not. It’s not a perfect roster that is badly managed at times.

I know these players are coached pretty hard - we’ve seen it over the past two years. It’s on them for not picking things up this season. There are four or five players who are on their own page way too often.

Simple solution - replace them.
 

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I don’t think Hurley has done a marvelous job with this particular group. There are a few guys getting minutes when they have not produced anything all year and there are some players who we keep hearing about how we need a spark from them and they never get in the game.

But we lost two underclassmen the draft and this isn’t Duke where ESPN recruits for us, so I am not surprised that there was a step back. You also gotta nail the portal these days and after a few years of wizardry, we did not. It’s not a perfect roster that is badly managed at times.

I know these players are coached pretty hard - we’ve seen it over the past two years. It’s on them for not picking things up this season. There are four or five players who are on their own page way too often.

Simple solution - replace them.
I think this is the right answer. People blaming Hurley 100% gotta realize he didn’t forget how to teach basketball overnight.

It’s on him for recruiting many flawed players, it’s also on him for not recruiting over some of these guys last off season. Imagine if we had Brea as our 6th man instead of Stewart/Ross?

I’ll be more upset if he makes the same mistake this upcoming off season.
 

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I think this is the right answer. People blaming Hurley 100% gotta realize he didn’t forget how to teach basketball overnight.

It’s on him for recruiting many flawed players, it’s also on him for not recruiting over some of these guys last off season. Imagine if we had Brea as our 6th man instead of Stewart/Ross?

I’ll be more upset if he makes the same mistake this upcoming off season.
Brea is not the answer to our problems.
 

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Simple solution - replace them.
Depending on what you're actually suggesting, this is potentially myopic. Hurley didn't run anyone off the roster in 2018 when there were people he easily could have recruited over and it paid dividends many times over.

He's worked hard to build up this culture and there's a huge risk of ruining that hard earned reputation by running off guys he personally recruited because they're not up to our standards.

If it's 1-2 guys, sure no problem. We did that with Rahsool Diggins, Brenden Adams, and others. If you're suggesting wholesale changes to the roster, that's where it could cause long term damage IMO.

That said, considering free agency in college ball, even wholesale changes could be ok if they control the narrative. Not sure that can be counted on given that the university botched the narrative for the whole KO lawsuit but maybe that's an imperfect parallel.
 
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“The mistakes made us look like a poorly coached team”… really Danny? That’s the definition of a poorly coached team. Don’t fix the same inbounding issue for multiple games. Have the same tentative guy inbounding. Draw up a high risk full court pass. Blow healthy leads under 1 minute twice?
This excellent, and on-target, post captures it exactly. The self-proclaimed FB Coach in college basketball has not had an FB year. Roster composition should be added to the list too. You're not so good that you can win without making adjustments, and without a roster that includes another PG and some muscle. I hope Hurley learns something from this year.
 
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This excellent, and on-target, post captures it exactly. The self-proclaimed FB Coach in college basketball has not had an FB year. Roster composition should be added to the list too. You're not so good that you can win without making adjustments, and without a roster that includes another PG and some muscle. I hope Hurley learns something from this year.
I think the only thing it captures is an upset fan base who needs somewhere to unload their "pain". Nothing wise is written while we're sulking.
 

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For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.

If you're going to exalt your self by taunting opposing fans, pointing to "YOUR" rings, and telling refs you're the best coach in America, then maybe you need to be humbled. While I'll admit, I was amused by his antics at times I also found them embarrassing to the program.

It bothered me that he almost seemed to be blaming Alex in the presser. Just say "this one's on me and we are going to fix the things that aren't working, like inbounding the damn ball!"

I love Dan Hurley and am super happy he didn't take the Lakers job as some other poster insanely wished, but he has to be more professional and a role model to 18-22 year olds.

Leadership starts from the top.
 

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That said, considering free agency in college ball, even wholesale changes could be ok if they control the narrative. Not sure that can be counted on given that the university botched the narrative for the whole KO lawsuit but maybe that's an imperfect parallel.

Hurley has to decide if the current group of players can fix their issues. If not, then he has to decide which narrative he wants to put forward:
  • “The [playing] mistakes made us look like a poorly coached team” -- repeated 30 times next year if he relies for another year on players who interminably make mistakes
  • “My prior recruiting mistakes required me to remake the team”

I think what Hurley did in 2018 was the right thing, but that was pre-NIL and pre-two championships. He was digging out of a hole. Now he has to keep the NIL payers enthused, and he can point to lack of production to pull NIL. I think we're in a different world now.
 
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Evaluating players who you don’t have yet is an art, not a science. Unless you’re Duke getting the very top players (and even then to some extent), you are making educated guesses. Not everyone Calhoun brought in was able to play at our level.

Last year, we got lucky that a stiff we really wanted went to Kansas and we had to settle for Cam Spencer. This year, almost every team in America would have gladly taken Mahaney. He was a far, far better WCAC player than Joey California was. Sometimes players are who you think they can be and sometimes they aren’t. NBA scouts left and right thought Ball and Stewart were ready to be big time players making a case for the NBA. They weren’t.

This club was vastly overrated coming into the season, by both us and experts, and it hasn’t even come together and achieved what people would have expected were we not two time defending champions.

It’s a ride. This year‘s ride is relatively ugly. But there’s more to go. Keep hoping the team can make enough plays, game by game.

And by the way, had the team just made shots before the last 8 minutes, it would have looked fine.
 
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Evaluating players who you don’t have yet is an art, not a science. Unless you’re Duke getting the very top players (and even then to some extent), you are making educated guesses. Not everyone Calhoun brought in was able to play at our level.

Last year, we got lucky that a stiff we really wanted went to Kansas and we had to settle for Cam Spencer. This year, almost every team in America would have gladly taken Mahaney. He was a far, far better WCAC player than Joey California was. Sometimes players are who you think they can be and sometimes they aren’t. NBA scouts left and right thought Ball and Stewart were ready to be big time players making a case for the NBA. They weren’t.

This club was vastly overrated coming into the season, by both us and experts, and it hasn’t even come together and achieved what people would have expected were we not two time defending champions.

It’s a ride. This year‘s ride is relatively ugly. But there’s more to go. Keep hoping the team can make enough plays, game by game.

And by the way, had the team just made shots before the last 8 minutes, it would have looked fine.
True, and is anybody going to argue that the roster construction the last couple years wasn’t just about as good as it gets? The pieces fit perfect on those teams & they had phenomenal chemistry.

Yes, we got lucky with Cam. But you still have to give the staff credit for prioritizing and getting Cam after fortunately whiffing on Timberlake.

Btw, after we got Newton, I recall a lot on the BY saying Newton wasn’t a true point and wasn’t the right fit when the team hit the skids that January.
 
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What has gone better than expected this season?

Solos development. Reed. McNeeley being better than advertised. Maybe Diarras overall contributions.

Everything else has been less than we’d hoped. Alex. Mahaney. Stewart. Ross. Nowell. Team defense. Perimeter defense. Offensive execution. You can’t have so many things fail and still be a top tier team.
 
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Depending on what you're actually suggesting, this is potentially myopic. Hurley didn't run anyone off the roster in 2018 when there were people he easily could have recruited over and it paid dividends many times over.

He's worked hard to build up this culture and there's a huge risk of ruining that hard earned reputation by running off guys he personally recruited because they're not up to our standards.

If it's 1-2 guys, sure no problem. We did that with Rahsool Diggins, Brenden Adams, and others. If you're suggesting wholesale changes to the roster, that's where it could cause long term damage IMO.

That said, considering free agency in college ball, even wholesale changes could be ok if they control the narrative. Not sure that can be counted on given that the university botched the narrative for the whole KO lawsuit but maybe that's an imperfect parallel.
Back then he didn’t have the ability to recruit over. Things have changed.

I’ve been in favor of moving the needle in the portal as it’s been clear for awhile a few of these kids don’t have the goods. I also don’t want the freshman mingling with upperclassmen whose heads are in the clouds. The portal offers the advantage to course correct immediately.

If they roll out a lineup next year with a core group coming off this squads returners, we are gonna see a lot more of the same. A team that looks like they just hit a bong in the parking lot.
 
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What has gone better than expected this season?

Solos development. Reed. McNeeley being better than advertised. Maybe Diarras overall contributions.

Everything else has been less than we’d hoped. Alex. Mahaney. Stewart. Ross. Nowell. Team defense. Perimeter defense. Offensive execution. You can’t have so many things fail and still be a top tier team.
Solo’s development, or lack thereof, is a big dissapointment. I get that people love his offense but he’s a glorified spot up shooter who hasn’t learned how to play defense. This team, as constructed, needs him to be a 2 way player.
 

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The Mahaney and Diarra experiment has ran its course for this year but Hurley will run it until it all goes to dust. Nowell and Abraham need to play more to see what we have for next year.

Game speed and game experience are important for growth. We don’t know if Abraham is better or worse than Ross and Stewart, and we don’t know if Nowell is better or worse than Diarra and Mahaney. We’re more than 3/4 through the season and they’ve barely played. Changes need to be made and they should’ve been made games ago.

Losing to one of the worst teams in college basketball killed the “but practice argument.”
 

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