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Fishy said:
Ross has gotten double digit minutes around 20 times this season and has really done nothing. He had opportunity after opportunity, so I’m not sure I would compare his situation with Nowell’s.
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But, but…..he’s on a mock NBA draft board
 
auror said:
It's hard for me to shake that first game Ross played. Hurley had really built him up, and then he delivered. I know it was against the Little Sisters of the Poor, but Hurley was having him movement shoot off screens and directly off DHOs. He was driving without hesitation.

Now he's clanging wide open threes. Just standing there on offense.

The confidence is gone. I can see Hurley thinking I should've played him more to keep his confidence higher. We're missing that 3&D guy.

For those with Storrs Central, the highlight reel from the New Hampshire game is wild to watch considering how the rest of the season has gone:
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Husky ReView: New Hampshire (11/9)

Deep dive into the film and stats of UConn's win over New Hampshire
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You said the magic words: New Hampshire
 
Playing time is dependent on 2 things

Stay in front of your man, which Ross does sometimes and does not do most times

Make open shots, make a play off the catch, or make a play handling the ball. Ross doesn’t do any of those right now

He’s 9th/10th man so opportunities are limited. It’s up to the core rotation to build enough of a lead where Ross can have lower pressure minutes and see what he can build on. But when every possession is life or death, it’s tough

6’6 freak athlete will always have potential, but it’s the end of February for a team fighting for a single digit seed line. Not really the time to be developing fundamentals in game
 
If Ross plays more than 5 minutes tomorrow we are in big trouble. Sounds like our coach is getting ready for next year
 
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superjohn said:
And another segment of the fanbase will be white knighting for Hurley any time they perceive any slight sent his way.
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Yes the head coach who’s won 12 straight NCAA tourney games, without a single close outcome, and who assembled the best starting 5 the sport has seen in the last 15 years, gets the benefit the doubt when it comes to barely relevant press conference remarks the year after going B2B. Wild take!
 
djct1999 said:
This makes no sense. If there ever was a season to find a player minutes it’s this one. Hurley has stared the opportunity to play Ross more straight in the eye and has chosen not to. This doesn’t sound like retention to me. This sounds like trying to help a kid he really likes personally find another good opportunity. It’s no different then when you broke up with a high school girlfriend and said it’s not you it’s me just to make her feel better because she was a nice person.
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If we can't understand what it means, how can anyone else?
 
REB1094 said:
Playing time is dependent on 2 things

Stay in front of your man, which Ross does sometimes and does not do most times

Make open shots, make a play off the catch, or make a play handling the ball. Ross doesn’t do any of those right now

He’s 9th/10th man so opportunities are limited. It’s up to the core rotation to build enough of a lead where Ross can have lower pressure minutes and see what he can build on. But when every possession is life or death, it’s tough

6’6 freak athlete will always have potential, but it’s the end of February for a team fighting for a single digit seed line. Not really the time to be developing fundamentals in game
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Where did the whole freak athlete thing with Ross come from? That's right up there with the defensive stopper thing. I'm not calling you out, I've seen it repeated over and over.

I watched basically all his big event AAU games before he came here and he never came across as a freak athlete. He looked like a development player with a nice stroke on corner threes. I watched Abdou Toure after his freshman high school season coming off the bench as the 6th man for New England Expressions and I immediately noticed he was different than everyone else. Could tell right away that kid was a freak athlete. Same when I watched Andre Jackson in AAU and high school and I immediately saw it in games when he put on a UConn jersey.

Ross had a very nice quick first step baseline reverse layup against UNH and a jelly fam layup that would've been blocked into the 10th row by any legit team. That's about all we've seen from him other than a dunk on the break on someone against East Texas Agriculture and Mechanical Commerce.
 
Kemba15 said:
Yes the head coach who’s won 12 straight NCAA tourney games, without a single close outcome, and who assembled the best starting 5 the sport has seen in the last 15 years, gets the benefit the doubt when it comes to barely relevant press conference remarks the year after going B2B. Wild take!
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You're right. And the fact that you have to even remind people of that is wild.

What i find really funny is the "maybe Dan Hurley is seeing something we're not' comments.
Yes!!! He is seeing way more than you are seeing. Dan Hurley is smarter than you. And way better than you. And crushes everyone on this board in basketball accumen. It's not even close.
 
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Jaydumo20 said:
What i find really funny is the "maybe Dan Hurley is seeing something we're not' comments.
Yes!!! He is seeing way more than you are seeing. He is a high level, possible future hall of fame coach. He is seeing more than you. He knows vastly more than anyone on this board. And if you think to yourself "but i could assemble a roster and evaluate talent at this level" then you're the friend in your group that people make fun of.
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Clearly he knows more and he sees the guys in practice every day. But to play devils advocate, there are tons of guys who look great in practice and then suck when the real competition starts. And vice versa. I think anyone who has been around sports, especially playing them, knows people like that. And a lot of coaches get enamored with the former and don't ever give a chance to the latter. Its not exactly rare.

Now is that the scenario here? Idk. I'd venture to say most here don't know.
 
superjohn said:
Where did the whole freak athlete thing with Ross come from? That's right up there with the defensive stopper thing. I'm not calling you out, I've seen it repeated over and over.

I watched basically all his big event AAU games before he came here and he never came across as a freak athlete. He looked like a development player with a nice stroke on corner threes. I watched Abdou Toure after his freshman high school season coming off the bench as the 6th man for New England Expressions and I immediately noticed he was different than everyone else. Could tell right away that kid was a freak athlete. Same when I watched Andre Jackson in AAU and high school and I immediately saw it in games when he put on a UConn jersey.

Ross had a very nice quick first step baseline reverse layup against UNH and a jelly fam layup that would've been blocked into the 10th row by any legit team. That's about all we've seen from him other than a dunk on the break on someone against East Texas Agriculture and Mechanical Commerce.
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The jelly fam layup and dunk were pretty sick tho :) along with a few offseason workout videos, the kid can jump
 
Ross is just not that skilled offensively. Hurley has to know that.
 
80shusky said:
We need Kwintin Wiiliams!
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Sometimes, you just gotta win Instagram.
REB1094 said:
Playing time is dependent on 2 things

Stay in front of your man, which Ross does sometimes and does not do most times

6’6 freak athlete will always have potential, but it’s the end of February for a team fighting for a single digit seed line. Not really the time to be developing fundamentals in game
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He’s not a freak athlete. He’s more Rip Hamilton than Stanley Robinson.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Those games are the equivalent of pick up basketball and mean absolute jack.
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It was the way and situations that Hurley was using him in.

He hit a pick and pop 3 and a 3 off a DHO as the handler off an ATO. And it looked smooth. Now I'm sure he wasn't the first option in the gameplan for those plays at the start of the game and he got the benefit of the big lead to show what he could do. But it looked good!

He took 15 threes in his first 3 games played. And then he couldn't hit a wide open catch and shoot 3 basically in any game since the first one. I can't imagine Hurley letting him take 5 threes in 3 games in a row if he wasn't making them in practice. So I get a bit of Solo vibes with him needing the game to slow down (though Hurley hasn't given him quite the same shooting rep he gave Solo in interviews last season), which it really only does with reps.
 
It doesn't seem that weird for me that Hurley would be looking for more minutes for a high effort low usage guy, which is what Ross is at this point.

Look at the Marquette game. Ross 100% contributed to us winning it, and no box score is going to tell me differently. Stewart had a better box score in that one but turned the ball over 6 times and made himself unplayable. Meanwhile Ross was bringing the ball up the court for parts of the game and only turned it over once, and was defending Kam Jones.

I'm disappointed he hasn't shown a little more offensively too, but there are some crazy and disrespectful takes in this thread in my opinion.
 
auror said:
It was the way and situations that Hurley was using him in.

He hit a pick and pop 3 and a 3 off a DHO as the handler off an ATO. And it looked smooth. Now I'm sure he wasn't the first option in the gameplan for those plays at the start of the game and he got the benefit of the big lead to show what he could do. But it looked good!

He took 15 threes in his first 3 games played. And then he couldn't hit a wide open catch and shoot 3 basically in any game since the first one. I can't imagine Hurley letting him take 5 threes in 3 games in a row if he wasn't making them in practice. So I get a bit of Solo vibes with him needing the game to slow down (though Hurley hasn't given him quite the same shooting rep he gave Solo in interviews last season), which it really only does with reps.
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He also missed one of the threes by like 2 feet to the left of the rim and he was 3 for 19 to start the season from three.
 
This should be listed as one of the Top Items in the thread "Hurley's Miscalculations". Seriously... Ross's failures on the court are well documented and known. I am wondering how Abraham can be any worse.
 
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87Xfer said:
Did Dan slip in the shower and hit his head? Or too busy writing the book? The comments lately seem detached from the team he's currently coaching and what got him here.
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Reading between the lines, the quote is partly about Ross and partly about other guys who he wants to follow Ross’ lead if they want their playing time to increase.
 
RuffRuff said:
Did notice not a word of AM, you might be right on that one.

As for Ross being a “freak” athlete - has this come from the same source that called him a great defender? He’s not a freak athlete, at all. If he was he’d be elevating above players for rebounds, something. You’d be seeing some results in the box score.
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The way this board has tried to build this guy up is mind boggling. Early in the year he was the next Reggie Lewis!!! On a team desperate for an answer, on either side of the ball, he plays meaningless minutes. Doesn’t that say it all??
 
Gurleyman said:
Reading between the lines, the quote is partly about Ross and partly about other guys who he wants to follow Ross’ lead if they want their playing time to increase.
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At this point in the season, no one should be reading between the lines.
 
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