Hurley, Martin, Matta, Crean

[Walker11]

Fine, then take a chance on getting one. A retread simply treads water, after maybe a small bump.

But really, there's a chance to be a successful middle of the road coach as well. A Beilein so to speak.

Man, I would love a Beilein type. I can't think of any comparisons. A brilliant offensive minded coach who gets everything out of his players. Who also should recruit better than he does but I imagine the strength of our brand relative to conference peers would make up for this deficit.

 

[tcf15]

I wonder what happens if Hurley goes to pitt and crean takes the Georgia job.

What do they do then?

Then we go for one of the other three Hurleys that Goodman is talking about.

 

[Guapo]

• Couldn't recruit his own state at THE basketball school in that state
• He had two good years. Seven below average
• That school should be a monster. It has way more resources than UCONN. He was good at his best, but was bad way too often, and trending downward
• Apparently pissed off a number of people in the administration there
• Overall: 166–135 (.551) 71–91 (.438) Not inspiring
• Indiana fans were desperate to have him gone
• He's weird.

What is your definition of good?

The man has been to 4 sweet 16's and a Final Four.

 

[HooperScooper]

There have to be other young up and coming coaches at lower level schools that are good candidates to succeed besides Hurley. Ones that have upside. I'd rather take that chance than hire "safe choices" that are retreads like Crean or Martin. That would be the easy way out for Benedict. Benedict needs to take a chance and trust his judgment on someone. Ohio State, Arizona St., and others have done it recently. If Benedict takes some risk and makes a bad choice on a younger less experienced guy that doesn't work out then he wasn't as good at his job as he should be.

 

[pj]

• Couldn't recruit his own state at THE basketball school in that state
• He had two good years. Seven below average
• That school should be a monster. It has way more resources than UCONN. He was good at his best, but was bad way too often, and trending downward
• Apparently pissed off a number of people in the administration there
• Overall: 166–135 (.551) 71–91 (.438) Not inspiring
• Indiana fans were desperate to have him gone
• He's weird.

Crean makes Kevin Ollie look like a successful coach.

Matta would be great if healthy, but Hurley seems like the best available option.

 

[cohenzone]

That’s a bit concerning. Anyone else. We better pray for duke now I guess. I just don’t know if I can. Based on principal. His BROTHER played with CHRISTIAN LAETTNER!! That’s asking a lot. But. Oh well. He better win like 20 titles in the next 3 years!!!

My daughter in law went to Duke when Laettner was there. She said few people liked him, so some Dookies have redeeming qualities. And Danny was stuck with his brother so he is entitled to a little forgiveness.

 

[KemBaller]

I love JC , I dont want him to have to do this, but if it isnt Hurley and comes down to the other 3 I make JC a 1-2 year steward until we can pull a coach in here.

Calhoun missed like half of his final season due to health issues, you're telling me he's going to come back 6 years later and be fine? And how does he stay competitive recruiting if the deal is that he's a 2 year stopgap?

 

[August_West]

My daughter in law went to Duke when Laettner was there. She said few people liked him

Yup. For all those people who didnt like him, he still managed to sleep with ALL of them. And they begged for it.


If ever was reincarnated I would choose to comeback in Christian Laettners body for his 4 years in college. The kid ran the world. That's why everyone (including us) hated him so much. He ran the world. Complete Rock Star.

 

[Matrim55]

• Couldn't recruit his own state at THE basketball school in that state
• He had two good years. Seven below average
• That school should be a monster. It has way more resources than UCONN. He was good at his best, but was bad way too often, and trending downward
• Apparently pissed off a number of people in the administration there
• Overall: 166–135 (.551) 71–91 (.438) Not inspiring
• Indiana fans were desperate to have him gone
• He's weird.

I would add that he's a poor in-game coach.

 

[KemBaller]

His records aren't impressive either. He had a great great run last year in the NCAAs, but meh.

His record at K-State was pretty solid for where he was at. 10-5 in the tourney isn't bad for those 2 programs. Seems like a solid fallback option if we miss on Hurley.

 

[BlueDogs]

Hurley or bust... wait... we're busted... just Hurley

 

[cohenzone]

There have to be other young up and coming coaches at lower level schools that are good candidates to succeed besides Hurley. Ones that have upside. I'd rather take that chance than hire "safe choices" that are retreads like Crean or Martin. That would be the easy way out for Benedict. Benedict needs to take a chance and trust his judgment on someone. Ohio State, Arizona St., and others have done it recently. If Benedict takes some risk and makes a bad choice on a younger less experienced guy that doesn't work out then he wasn't as good at his job as he should be.

Exactly. And Calhoun should be option W.

 

[The Funster]

My top four in order:

Hurley
Schmidt
Becker
JC

I think it's odd that people eliminating people based on looks considering JC sounded like a Bahstahn machine gun when he talked. It took me a while to figure out what he was saying for a few years. Matta isn't healthy but Martin and Crean have some strong positives in their favor.

Just win, baby

 

[intlzncster]

What is your definition of good?

The man has been to 4 sweet 16's and a Final Four.

I was speaking specifically of his time at Indiana there. I look at his career at Indiana as more indicative of who Crean is, given that it was the most recent, at a powerhouse of a school, and damn near a decade long.

I'm not discounting Marquette, just that I think what you see at Indiana is what you get.

The two good years being finishing 1st in the B1G. Both making the sweet 16. You probably hope for more there in March.

 

[Matrim55]

The two good years being finishing 1st in the B1G. Both making the sweet 16. You probably hope for more there in March.

Like winning a tournament, ever. He's never done it, even in conference tourneys.

18 years, two big schools, zero banners. How is that guy on the list at all?

 

[uchusky32]

We're all in on Hurley. Everyone else is fallback. I agree with August not real exciting after Hurley.

 

[the Q]

My top four in order:

Hurley
Schmidt
Becker
JC

I think it's odd that people eliminating people based on looks considering JC sounded like a Bahstahn machine gun when he talked. It took me a while to figure out what he was saying for a few years. Matta isn't healthy but Martin and Crean have some strong positives in their favor.

Just win, baby

I’ll throw 2 mil at oats before Becker or Schmidt.

 

[KemBaller]

I was speaking specifically of his time at Indiana there. I look at his career at Indiana as more indicative of who Crean is, given that it was the most recent, at a powerhouse of a school, and damn near a decade long.

I'm not discounting Marquette, just that I think what you see at Indiana is what you get.

The two good years being finishing 1st in the B1G. Both making the sweet 16. You probably hope for more there in March.

I don't want to be anywhere near Crean either but you could have put Coach K in that spot and it's still at least a couple years to turn it around.

 

[Dove]

Crazy Frank Martin? People would genuflect toward this guy?

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I just can't get behind Crean. He's a bit better version of Pasqualoni.

This is nuts.

 

[whaler11]

When the NCAA has squeezed out mid-majors I guess it shouldn’t be shocking there are candidates for a P7 league.

The whole tournament would have 1 mid major from leagues 8-32 if Nevada and URI held serve.

And they got sent to Dayton.

 

[Banta55]

I was speaking specifically of his time at Indiana there. I look at his career at Indiana as more indicative of who Crean is, given that it was the most recent, at a powerhouse of a school, and damn near a decade long.

I'm not discounting Marquette, just that I think what you see at Indiana is what you get.

The two good years being finishing 1st in the B1G. Both making the sweet 16. You probably hope for more there in March.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

• Couldn't recruit his own state at THE basketball school in that state
• He had two good years. Seven below average
• That school should be a monster. It has way more resources than UCONN. He was good at his best, but was bad way too often, and trending downward
• Apparently pissed off a number of people in the administration there
• Overall: 166–135 (.551) 71–91 (.438) Not inspiring
• Indiana fans were desperate to have him gone
• He's weird.

It's worth noting that when he arrived at IU the cupboard was COMPLETELY bare because of the Kelvin Sampson disaster. They had two walk-ons when he took over. Four years later he had 27 wins and a sweet 16 appearance.

 

[Banta55]

The first 3 year's he had no player's because of sanctions from Kelvin Sampson...We can do a lot wprse

 

[GemParty]

Martin certainly reminds me of Calhoun as a disciplinarian but didn't he just take the Ville kid Bowen? No thanks.

 

[the Q]

Martin certainly reminds me of Calhoun as a disciplinarian but didn't he just take the Ville kid Bowen? No thanks.

Why not? Someone else already paid him.

 

[whaler11]

Yup. For all those people who didnt like him, he still managed to sleep with ALL of them. And they begged for it.


If ever was reincarnated I would choose to comeback in Christian Laettners body for his 4 years in college. The kid ran the world. That's why everyone (including us) hated him so much. He ran the world. Complete Rock Star.

3 more weeks of 500 calorie days you are there.

 

[Towney007]

Hurley's clearly target #1.

Martin is rumored to not be interested. Matta's a no - he just turned down $16 million from Georgia. Crean I'd assume goes to one of Georgia, UConn, Pitt - whoever misses out on their #1's. Or - if all else fails - Calhoun.

 

[intlzncster]

This is nuts.

You think? He'd likely be doing worse here than he did at Indiana. We'd be treading water....5 or 6th in the league. jmo

I intended that to mean as "the safe pick" that's probably not going to do that much on the upside.

 

[intlzncster]

It's worth noting that when he arrived at IU the cupboard was COMPLETELY bare because of the Kelvin Sampson disaster. They had two walk-ons when he took over. Four years later he had 27 wins and a sweet 16 appearance.

True. But it's also Indiana. Really Sweet 16 should be a minimum there. Why couldn't he sustain those results year in year out?