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Just wanted to start a general discussion about what type of style we’re going to play.
 
General questions I have. Does he always play man to man or does he mix in a zone? Does he run the same system as his father/brother? Does he run the same system he ran at St. B? How animated does he get on the sideline? How hard does he work the refs?
 
UcannUconn said:
General questions I have. Does he always play man to man or does he mix in a zone? Does he run the same system as his father/brother? Does he run the same system he ran at St. B? How animated does he get on the sideline? How hard does he work the refs?
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I think the frequency with which he played zone at URI, was about the same as frequency for snow in Phoenix...in fairness... likely contingent on personnel...
Gets VERY animated on the sideline...(scale of 1-10, probably an 8, down from 11 two years ago)...has scaled back working refs, but certainly no slacker in that regard.
 
UcannUconn said:
How animated does he get on the sideline? How hard does he work the refs?
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More than JC. So much so that he embarrassed his wife, boss, and even himself (when watching film). So much so that he would make his team tight. He's been learning to chill out on the sideline; Tom Moore was helpful in that. But under no circumstance will he be 'unnoticed'.
 
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I don't think anybody's gonna be wowed by his offense. At least from what I saw at URI. Coming in, this is something that I thought was one of his weaker areas.

It's not going to be like Ollie's, mind you, but don't expect a thing of beauty. I imagine what I saw at URI was a function of personnel. Hopefully he tailors it to what he has.
 
Yardigan said:
I think the frequency with which he played zone at URI, was about the same as frequency for snow in Phoenix...in fairness... likely contingent on personnel...
Gets VERY animated on the sideline...(scale of 1-10, probably an 8, down from 11 two years ago)...has scaled back working refs, but certainly no slacker in that regard.
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Good, I would love nothing more than to never see Uconn play zone again.
 
UcannUconn said:
Good, I would love nothing more than to never see Uconn play zone again.
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Flip side to that...his teams didn't really play well against them either...again, could be personnel...or, could be never practicing against it...or combo of both
 
From what I watched of URI, his game plans are very similar to that of JC. High intensity team defense, getting up into the ball handlers ala Ryan Boatright and Shabazz napier in 2014. As for offense, also very similar to JC, which was not a thing of beauty by any means but still got the job done. We will be going back to the days of defense winning ball games (I hope), but winning is winning no matter how ugly it is.
 
Yardigan said:
I think the frequency with which he played zone at URI, was about the same as frequency for snow in Phoenix...in fairness... likely contingent on personnel...
Gets VERY animated on the sideline...(scale of 1-10, probably an 8, down from 11 two years ago)...has scaled back working refs, but certainly no slacker in that regard.
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Hurley favors man to man, but at Wagner and in his early years at URI he would switch defenses a lot -- not to the extent JC did when first at UConn, but there were some zones thrown in to change things up.
 
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intlzncster said:
I don't think anybody's gonna be wowed by his offense. At least from what I saw at URI. Coming in, this is something that I thought was one of his weaker areas.

It's not going to be like Ollie's, mind you, but don't expect a thing of beauty. I imagine what I saw at URI was a function of personnel. Hopefully he tailors it to what he has.
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If you're equating "pretty" to a motion offense, then no, you won't call it pretty. The offense is based off of spacing and dribble penetration.
 
Excalibur said:
Hurley favors man to man, but at Wagner and in his early years at URI he would switch defenses a lot -- not to the extent JC did when first at UConn, but there were some zones thrown in to change things up.
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You'd have to ask someone more knowledgeable, but if someone gave me an over/under of 10 minutes for how much zone they played all year last year. I'd guess/bet heavy on the under...
 
Lots of pressure defense to generate offense.
Last year, we had star players admitting they started slow and were not ready at the tipoff.
That will be an issue next year with this coach in the coming year
 
intlzncster said:
I don't think anybody's gonna be wowed by his offense. At least from what I saw at URI. Coming in, this is something that I thought was one of his weaker areas.

It's not going to be like Ollie's, mind you, but don't expect a thing of beauty. I imagine what I saw at URI was a function of personnel. Hopefully he tailors it to what he has.
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I wonder if young or hunter will be our offense guys. It would be a great testament to hurleys leadership if hes willing to adapt
 
QDOG5 said:
I'd be "PSY"ched if they played Gangnam Style
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I think we just spent the last few years playing Gangnam stylve because we were on our way to becoming as irrelevant as PSY
 
Excalibur said:
If you're equating "pretty" to a motion offense, then no, you won't call it pretty. The offense is based off of spacing and dribble penetration.
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Sure, same as JC. Just pointing out that it is not the modern offense that basketball is trending towards.

This will definitely be more of a win it with defense type team, with lots of points being generated that way.
 
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UcannUconn said:
General questions I have. Does he always play man to man or does he mix in a zone?
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Primarily man-to-man with an emphasis on 1) protecting the 3-point line and 2) generating turnovers. This sometimes comes at the expense of rebounding, at which his teams have only been good-not-great. I suspect he signed Yakwe because of his quickness and length – he's a guy who can protect the rim, protect the 3-point line, hedge a pick-and-roll and grab a rebound all on the same possession.

He has mixed in a zone at times but very, very selectively.

Does he run the same system as his father/brother?
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Offensively he ran a motion offense with shared playmaking responsibilities. They were good at generating plays moving toward the hoop, though they didn't generate a ton of open threes. I've yet to see him run a real post offense, though I suspect that's going to be on the menu given how highly he rates Carlton.

Does he run the same system he ran at St. B?
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I doubt it. He's been flexible over the years, willing to tailor his schemes to his personnel.

How animated does he get on the sideline? How hard does he work the refs?
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VERY, and very.
 
Randomly was recommended this video on youtube. I guess Bobby Hurley had a shoe deal at one point.

 
intlzncster said:
I don't think anybody's gonna be wowed by his offense. At least from what I saw at URI. Coming in, this is something that I thought was one of his weaker areas.

It's not going to be like Ollie's, mind you, but don't expect a thing of beauty. I imagine what I saw at URI was a function of personnel. Hopefully he tailors it to what he has.
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Yeah, I’d imagine that it had to do more with personnel. He also has a really good coaching staff and has already met with Gene and Calhoun and will continue to pick their brains
 
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You can only run what the quality of your players allows. I bet KO drew up a better offense than his players executed. This whole thing only works starting with getting talent. Guys who can actually make shots too. Then you can do a lot of things. I thing many here think Hurley has some kind of magic bag. I’m planning on an uptick in intensity but talent is what we still need.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
Agreed but no chemistry. Big egos and Calhoun didn’t know how to handle the AO/Drummond situation
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In fairness to Jim, people forget he was under NCAA suspension for several games and missed other games due to health issues that season. Boatright also had a suspension that season further messing up team chemistry.
 
jibsey said:
You can only run what the quality of your players allows. I bet KO drew up a better offense than his players executed. This whole thing only works starting with getting talent. Guys who can actually make shots too. Then you can do a lot of things. I thing many here think Hurley has some kind of magic bag. I’m planning on an uptick in intensity but talent is what we still need.
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Defense and passing can overcome a lot of offensive deficiencies because they lead to open shots and layups.

The guys have to put in a lot of work to improve themselves, but if hurley can get them playing better defense, and get them to pass the ball and cut on offense with purpose, we'll see a better team.

How many times did Ollie's teams go into an offensive with the PG crossing half court and passing the ball to the 2/3 on the wing only for the wing to pass the ball immediately back. This wasn't an accident, it was by design. It didn't create movement or necessitate any reaction by the defense, it only wasted time.

Contrast that with Hurley's teams who have multiple clips of guys getting a rebound or steal that leads to 3-5 passes without the ball touching the floor and ending up with a layup at the other end.

Hurley, can't create miracles, but he doesn't have to. He just has to get back to basics. The ball moves faster through the air, than the dribble. And if the team buys into his style, they have the athletes to turn this around. If they buy in, AND, improve their individual play (shooting, etc), then we can be a tournament team within a year or two.
 
Chief00 said:
In fairness to Jim, people forget he was under NCAA suspension for several games and missed other games due to health issues that season. Boatright also had a suspension that season further messing up team chemistry.
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Yup. Completely forgot about that
 
Chief00 said:
In fairness to Jim, people forget he was under NCAA suspension for several games and missed other games due to health issues that season. Boatright also had a suspension that season further messing up team chemistry.
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Getting Boat and Bazz to play together so well was no small feat. KO doesn't get enough credit for this IMO.
 
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