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Hurley: Avoid Garbage Parents
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This is my favorite Hurley interview so far. My only objection is the unaccountable title. THAT'S what's garbage.
Unless I missed a single mention (okay, I'llnsay 2 just to be super safe), the word "garbage" does not appear in the written article OR the 20+ minute interview.
The article uses the phrase "bad parents" several times, and the interview offers examples of troublesome behaviors, but neither Dan Dakich nor Dan Hurley say "garbage."
Please, if I missed it, somebody show me my error. I don't want to be wrong, and I'm not bringing this up to be right.
The interview is values-centered, candid about personal trials & tribulations, respectful of other programs & coaches & players, informed by shared history between both Dans going back to intersections between Indiana & Seton Hall, discussing experiences as both coaches and players, generational changes & maturity, and is up to date within this week. Highly recommended.
Especially significant, is Hurley's emphasis on GOOD family backgrounds and support for players who are targeted for recruitment and development. This the flip side in framing what is searched for, looked at, desired, and chosen.
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Hurley is smarter than he gets credit for. This is a high EQ move, subtly recruiting parents and setting team/culture expectations simultaneously. I love the fact that historically many of our best players graduated, often early.
That said there's no greater achievement than surpassing a terrible childhood (Jimmy Butler type). I know that's not what Hurleys talking about here, just sayin.
That said there's no greater achievement than surpassing a terrible childhood (Jimmy Butler type). I know that's not what Hurleys talking about here, just sayin.
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That was, indeed, a great interview. I'm finding that usually the interviews with other coaches are the most informative.
Now, here's my completely left field take: With all the abuse he takes on here, I'm happy to be assured that Nick Timberlake has good parents to fall back on.
Given Dan Hurley wouldn't have gone after NT otherwise, that tells me the kid probably has the fortitude to turn it around.
We're gonna face KU in next year's tourney
Your final emoji gives me pause about taking this at full face value, but my inclination is to keep my mind open as to the sincerity or your post and the assessment if Timberlake.
How he grows will reflect the impact of Self's culture, and all else will show out on the court if UConn meets Kansas. My joy in having watched Spencer for this season made my thoughts & feelings about Timberlake recede way into the background.
I'm also reminded that Hurley's success in responding to unexpected or disappointed recruiting losses has been astounding. From Nick to Cam was by no means the first time.
The names listed below all had UConn's interest and they were perceived as having strong interest in UConn. Whether in a direct line or as part of 'lessons-learned' narrative, Hurley pivoted and met the identified roster need or something else that contributed to the current success.
Kofi Cockburn
Cliff Omiruyi
Kyle Filipowski
Tashaad Pettiford
I think I've omitted at least one more significant name, but I think the point is already made.
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This is true but there are so many risks associated with bringing in a kid who’s had bad parenting, rough upbringing. It’s easier to teach kids the basketball stuff than it is to teach them all the requisite work ethic, communication skills, self motivation, coping skills, etc, that has to come from 18+ years of being raised in a supportive environment with engaged parents.
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Ask me about about AAU... Drunk coaches, sober coaches who tried to fight me, guys who attack players and get arrested.
Parents are just as bad though. I could pick either on any given day.
The way we approach youth sports is embarassing.
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Hopefully this is the last interview Hurley does for Outkick.
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I've never liked Dakich's public persona since I saw his Neil Reed tweets but that was maybe the best Hurley interview I've ever seen. Great questions and you can tell they both really like each other. That went way beyond the typical Hurley interviews about his funny underwear and fiery personality. I would love to see more interviews like this in the future.
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That's fine, Dakich is a moron but maybe he does a good interview. My bigger issue is with Outkick.
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Totally agree. Can't run the best basketball program in the country like a social services org. I'm just in awe of what some folks accomplish, starting out with zero or negative resources. Reminds me of Calhoun's work with Stanley Robinson.
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Sincere on NT. The wink was strictly for meeting KU in next year's tourney and not for umbrella sarcasm
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I've gotten past the point where I dismiss the content because of the outlet. I haven't liked ESPN for 20 years but they occasionally have good interviews and they air games I want to watch, I haven't like Fox for 20 years but I love the Big East and they have the best on air talent working the games. I don't like Outkick but that was a great interview and I'm sure they have other good interviews. I was never a Barstool fan but I love the content from Mark Titus and Big Cat is an awesome guy, they also all love Calhoun/Hurley/UConn over there.
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Yeah im not a fan of that wording especially if thats not exactly what Hurley said as it can be used against him. "Hurley calls recruits parents garbage" adding to the narrative that some love to paint of him being a jerk. If he did use it then its fair to deal with any back lash from it.
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Some time back (my kid was under 10, and he's going to be 60 next year, so it was a LONG time ago.) I coached a youth team. There were three players (and their parents) who still stick out in my mind. Two of the kids were best friends, as were their fathers. Putting the ball in player A's hands ALWAYS resulted in either a shot attempt or a pass to his buddy, player B. His buddy would dribble into the corner at the baseline where their fathers were stationed. There, he would get instructions from Daddy, on what to do. Again, there were only two options. Pass it back to his buddy or shoot it. By the time the conversation was done, he was surrounded by players from the other team, and had long since given up his dribble, so he would put up a jumper that probably went in once in the season I coached the team. I tried my best to get the fathers to stop interacting with their kids during the game. No luck.
The third kid though... what a pleasure to coach and to watch his relationship with his father. Father never said anything during practice or games. But he took notes, and he'd go over them with the kid when official practice was over. Then they'd go through a shooting practice routine from several different spots. The kid was far and away the best player on the team, and his dad never interfered with things I was trying to get the kids to do.
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Or a more UConn centric example in Caron Butler.
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Coaching a 7 and 8th grade CYO girls team I once had a parent come out on the court and essentially clothesline one of my girls who had stolen the ball from his daughter!! I also used to ump little league and in one game where the losing team was close to the 10 run rule the parents on the winning team were beyond cruel in their comments the losing kids could hear. At one point I heard an f bomb and warned the parents. Honestly I waited and when a sneeze sounded an awful like a curse word I forfeited the game to the losing team. Slept good that night. Last I told my brother in law considering which type of medicine he wanted to practice that you don’t want pediatrics because each kid comes with two parents
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If an adult puts a hand on my kid because of a basketball game or anything else, they are going to violentally assaulted. I'll let my wife handle the legal side of things. I have all-too-personal feelings about people who hurt children. I get physically ill when I see parents who hurt their kids at work sometimes.
It's more embarassing for the winning team than the losers when that kind of stuff happens. Half the time the kids are embarassed for their parents and coaches.
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Why? It's a great interview.
Either Dan can register their displeasure with the dishonesty and potential for negative effect from the word "garbage," and affected parties can take it from there.
It's true that Outkick bears responsibility for endorsing an editorial lapse in judgment, but are you aware that your use of the word "hopefully" is grammatically incorrect? It's a common error, and it's correctible.
Should anybody recommend that your posts never be read or taken seriously again? I think that would be extreme and unnecessary.
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No, I think the point was more that Outkick is a shoddy operation which concerns itself more with fighting culture wars than producing quality journalism.
Directly from their mission statement:
“Questioning the consensus and exposing the destructive nature of ‘woke’ activism, OutKick is the antidote to the mainstream sports media that often serves an elite, left-leaning minority instead of the American sports fan.”
It's not an editorial lapse in judgement, it was very much intentional as it fits their culture war narrative perfectly. It's not a good look, Hurley got duped.
Regardless of their political bent, that was a great interview with a bad title. I'm sure if it bothered Dan Hurley, someone at Uconn could get it changed. Websites change content all the time
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There's a content creator trick shot guy with a major following who does interviews with our men's and women's players who did an interview with Clingan where Clingan describes going to the White House last year. What Donovan describes is rather embarrassing for the POTUS and a couple right of center outlets picked up on it and ran the video. A non basketball watching pal of mine sent me the video, I noticed the video was later pulled by the content creator which I'm sure was done at the request of Hurley or someone else involved with the program.
If Hurley had a problem with his interview with Dakich and the headline the site ran with I'm sure he would ask his buddy Dakich to get the headline changed. I was curious so pulled up the story again. It seems you can still find the original headline but they have the same interview with two alternative headlines, "Hurley Says Kentucky never became a thing" and "Dan Hurley Talks The Importance of Speaking Up About Mental Health." The site also has a video where another guy talks about how UConn basketball is hands down the best program in college sports, the best basketball program of the last 40 years, and the most underrated program in all of sports.
It's unfortunate clickbait headlines are created all the time but every publication does it from the biggest publications down to the small online outfits...
It's taking place right now with a local Chicago story which has become a national story. It's a powderkeg type story and many of the largest publications in the world are writing headlines which give a false impression of the incident, they're intentionally lighting a match to that powderkeg.
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I usually listen to College Radio during the work day on XM .. and I keep hearing Hurley's interview about parents dropping hints during the recruitment and seems everybody is in love with the sentiment. It's on Full Ride right now with Childers and Neuheisel
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