Hurley Article from CT Insider

[slepers]

What in the are you talking about?

What will he be penalized by the ncaa (lmao!)? Hiring prostitutes to have s*x with recruits?or cover up r**e allegations for years? Or covering up se**al assault allegations of the university trainer? Or beating his wife?

How many of his recruits have ever gotten in trouble with the law? Exactly.

He gets pissed off at the refs and doesn’t take from the fans. Good. You guys are perfectly fine with fans berating him and his family. It’s sad. Coach K, Self, Izzo, Calipari, Pitino, etc all have acted like Hurley or worse on the sidelines, but you guys accept that.

hurley is a great coach and representative of the university. He stands up for his team, his family, his players and himself. His players love him, our opponents fans hate him what more do you want.

 

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Honestly, I couldn't care less about how he is with refs. I hated the "best coach in America" thing, but honestly, he is no worse with refs than JC, K, or any of the other "legends." There were times I thought JC was going to assault Ted Valentine or Higgins.

For Hurley, it's the lame soundbites and fan interaction stuff that is just so beneath him and is such bad optics for the team. These reflective articles are great and all, but I feel like the same ones were written last year with the same rationale, etc.

I hate the narrative that all the other legends acted the same way.

Before I get into this, Hurley was perfectly fine towards the 2nd half of the season. No issues. Which is what makes this unnecessary outburst so disappointing.

Hurley at his worst, spends all game berating refs and calling them out their names unreasonably. Arguing unnecessary calls and all. Those legends never did that (and they got techs for much less like laughing).

The legends could get to that level of course, but usually it wasn’t unreasonable or without intention. And it wasn’t an all game thing.

Those guys yelled at their players a lot more than they yelled at refs.

 

[Inyatkin]

Jim Harbaugh had the same problem at Michigan when he first got there (and it costed his team games as the refs were clearly out to get him) and he changed then won a national title. Jim Harbaugh is 1000x calmer than he used to be and it didn’t make him any less of a man or passionate coach. And it certainly didn’t change how great of a coach he was clearly.

Wow if Hurley calms down maybe he too could win a title someday

 

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Wow if Hurley calms down maybe he too could win a title someday

 

[UConnSwag11]

But he hasn’t changed?

 

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But he hasn’t changed?

Who?

 

[uconnfan68]

I wonder if Hurley trashed his players publicly and prevented them from post game handshakes if the media would make a big deal?
To me that’s 100 times worse.

He treats opposing players like they’re his own. A few extra words, a pat on the back, and a smile. What are media people seeing?

 

[Inyatkin]

So enlighten us on your point. You post here incessantly and I have no idea what you're talking about.

Except maybe you preferred it when coaches yelled at their players and not the refs? I'm not with you on that one.

 

[temery]

Zero self control -- you make it sound like he physically attacks refs. That's what zero self control means

I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

 

[superjohn]

Jim Harbaugh had the same problem at Michigan when he first got there (and it costed his team games as the refs were clearly out to get him) and he changed then won a national title. Jim Harbaugh is 1000x calmer than he used to be and it didn’t make him any less of a man or passionate coach. And it certainly didn’t change how great of a coach he was clearly.

Jim Harbaugh is a scumbag.

 

[SubbaBub]

This is media pile on at its finest. At the time I felt the whistle was pro Florida at key moments and not key moments. He's allowed to bitch about it. This is a non-story for anyone but coaches with his reputation.

The only thing Dan needs to consider is if his players are with him and if this stuff is self fulfilling with regard to the officials.

 

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So enlighten us on your point. You post here incessantly and I have no idea what you're talking about.

Except maybe you preferred it when coaches yelled at their players and not the refs? I'm not with you on that one.

People say this is the way Hurley is and it’s what makes him him. I’m pointing out a coach who had similar issues, fixed it completely, and wasn’t any less of a coach than he was.

Also yeah, I miss when coaches coached their players hard and not babied then. You can’t possibly have played a sport before if you think yelling at players is a big deal.

 

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Jim Harbaugh is a scumbag.

Lol there may be no coach in college sports more progressive or who fought for players rights more than Harbaugh while also not playing this NIL bag game we see currently.

 

[Stew Crew]

Is he usually right about his complaints with refs?

In his first few years at UConn, no.

 

[Inyatkin]

People say this is the way Hurley is and it’s what makes him him. I’m pointing out a coach who had similar issues, fixed it completely, and wasn’t any less of a coach than he was.

Also yeah, I miss when coaches coached their players hard and not babied then. You can’t possibly have played a sport before if you think yelling at players is a big deal.

Just what this thread needed, a tough guy act

Imagine thinking that Hurley not screaming his face off at Samson Johnson five times a game is the reason for anything.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Hurley babies his players is a great new take quake, on par with "Calhoun gave freshmen a long leash, irrespective of whether or not they deserved it."

 

[yungdowork]

Um, no it wouldn't. It would be that while he's still a maniac on the sidelines and the best coach in the country, he's learned to ignore idiots in the crowd whose sole purpose is to bait him.

90% of the things people have been mad at him for haven't been a result of him getting baited, and didn't have anything to do with fans. The current situation, the Maui situation, the "best coach in the country" situation, etc.

I get that Hurley can be abrasive but he's far from the only one. Calipari has been ejected more times than Hurley, Fran McCaffery at Iowa got T'ed up all the time, I'm pretty sure Nate Oats is on pace to have more technicals than Hurley. None of these guys have to hear this stuff repeated ad nauseum every week of the season.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Hurley babies his players is a great new take quake, on par with "Calhoun gave freshmen a long leash, irrespective of whether or not they deserved it."

Shut up with saying this until you actually name freshman he did not play that became good here. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Just what this thread needed, a tough guy act

Imagine thinking that Hurley not screaming his face off at Samson Johnson five times a game is the reason for anything.

I would’ve loved to see Hurley screaming his face off at Liam for a lot of his bad play down the stretch to correct it. It would’ve made him a better player.

Instead of not doing it to say you’re a nice guy while it also not helping the player. But refs? We’ll bully them.

 

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90% of the things people have been mad at him for haven't been a result of him getting baited, and didn't have anything to do with fans. The current situation, the Maui situation, the "best coach in the country" situation, etc.

I get that Hurley can be abrasive but he's far from the only one. Calipari has been ejected more times than Hurley, Fran McCaffery at Iowa got T'ed up all the time, I'm pretty sure Nate Oats is on pace to have more technicals than Hurley. None of these guys have to hear this stuff repeated ad nauseum every week of the season.

It’s actually bizarre that Hurley doesn’t get T’d up more tbh. Like the best coach in the country tantrum didn’t earn a T? Refs must be petrified of him lol

 

[Inyatkin]

I would’ve loved to see Hurley screaming his face off at Liam for a lot of his bad play down the stretch to correct it. It would’ve made him a better player.

Instead of not doing it to say you’re a nice guy while it also not helping the player. But refs? We’ll bully them.

You think you know best about how to make college basketball players improve?

That's your take?

You're better at coaching -- which is what we're talking about -- than Dan Hurley?

That's your point here, yes?

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Reffing is a Problem
When I was trained as one I was taught the two Cardinal rules
1. Only call what you see which means if your not in a position to see the play swallow the whistle missing calls because you were not in a proper position is not an excuse for calling something you weren’t witness too. It was once explained if you had to take an oath as a witness and didn’t actually see the foul your committing perjury .
2. Don’t have rabbit ears . Simply shut out the crowd and coaches . Because if you’re paying attention to them you can’t possibly be doing a job that requires 100% concentration. By all means never exchange comments with either unless they are on your court. Neither has any business on the court unless there is an official stoppage.

That was with two officials using the L concept for positioning .

 

[Deleted at users request]

You think you know best about how to make college basketball players improve?

That's your take?

You're better at coaching -- which is what we're talking about -- than Dan Hurley?

That's your point here, yes?

Or I just look at what Calhoun did and work and see when Hurley doesn’t do that and therefore doesn’t get the player development results he does.

 

[boog204]

90% of the things people have been mad at him for haven't been a result of him getting baited, and didn't have anything to do with fans. The current situation, the Maui situation, the "best coach in the country" situation, etc.

I get that Hurley can be abrasive but he's far from the only one. Calipari has been ejected more times than Hurley, Fran McCaffery at Iowa got T'ed up all the time, I'm pretty sure Nate Oats is on pace to have more technicals than Hurley. None of these guys have to hear this stuff repeated ad nauseum every week of the season.

For sure... With success comes great scrutiny and exposure. He's won two titles, and there's going to be a camera or some twitter waiting for him to do something. The baited things I'm referring to are the interactions with fans, etc., that seem to be more of an issue with him than others. The big picture is, as he has said, his ego can get in the way of having a filter and at times, inhibit his self-control.

He's also a Hurley. And let's be honest, that family has annoyed people from the second Bobby took the court and had the runs against us in the F8 in 1990. They are lightning rods. There were people on this board who didn't want to hire Dan because he was a Hurley.

And I never said he's the only "abrasive" coach on the sidelines, and that matters very little to me. The Maui "T" was ill-advised, but him being a maniac on the sidelines is all good with me. He's great to our players and our university, and is a great, great coach. Just stop engaging with fans and coming off childish off the court.

 

[superjohn]

Lol there may be no coach in college sports more progressive or who fought for players rights more than Harbaugh while also not playing this NIL bag game we see currently.

Dr. Robert Anderson

Jim Harbaugh is a really bad guy.

 

[cullaville]

Is he usually right about his complaints with refs?

Even if he is correct he needs to pick his battles. Even if he is right the call will not be reversed unless it is a call that can be reviewed.

It is like the boy who cried fable. If he keeps arguing every call vehemently when he does have a valid argument the refs will either ignore him or not give him the benefit of the doubt.

A reaction to what he thinks is a bad call right after the play is fine but to keep haranguing about minutes after the paly has ended is crazy.