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I wonder if Hurley trashed his players publicly and prevented them from post game handshakes if the media would make a big deal?
To me that’s 100 times worse.
He treats opposing players like they’re his own. A few extra words, a pat on the back, and a smile. What are media people seeing?
 
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So enlighten us on your point. You post here incessantly and I have no idea what you're talking about.

Except maybe you preferred it when coaches yelled at their players and not the refs? I'm not with you on that one.
 
Jim Harbaugh had the same problem at Michigan when he first got there (and it costed his team games as the refs were clearly out to get him) and he changed then won a national title. Jim Harbaugh is 1000x calmer than he used to be and it didn’t make him any less of a man or passionate coach. And it certainly didn’t change how great of a coach he was clearly.
Jim Harbaugh is a scumbag.
 
This is media pile on at its finest. At the time I felt the whistle was pro Florida at key moments and not key moments. He's allowed to bitch about it. This is a non-story for anyone but coaches with his reputation.

The only thing Dan needs to consider is if his players are with him and if this stuff is self fulfilling with regard to the officials.
 
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So enlighten us on your point. You post here incessantly and I have no idea what you're talking about.

Except maybe you preferred it when coaches yelled at their players and not the refs? I'm not with you on that one.
People say this is the way Hurley is and it’s what makes him him. I’m pointing out a coach who had similar issues, fixed it completely, and wasn’t any less of a coach than he was.

Also yeah, I miss when coaches coached their players hard and not babied then. You can’t possibly have played a sport before if you think yelling at players is a big deal.
 
People say this is the way Hurley is and it’s what makes him him. I’m pointing out a coach who had similar issues, fixed it completely, and wasn’t any less of a coach than he was.

Also yeah, I miss when coaches coached their players hard and not babied then. You can’t possibly have played a sport before if you think yelling at players is a big deal.
Just what this thread needed, a tough guy act

Imagine thinking that Hurley not screaming his face off at Samson Johnson five times a game is the reason for anything.
 
Um, no it wouldn't. It would be that while he's still a maniac on the sidelines and the best coach in the country, he's learned to ignore idiots in the crowd whose sole purpose is to bait him.
90% of the things people have been mad at him for haven't been a result of him getting baited, and didn't have anything to do with fans. The current situation, the Maui situation, the "best coach in the country" situation, etc.

I get that Hurley can be abrasive but he's far from the only one. Calipari has been ejected more times than Hurley, Fran McCaffery at Iowa got T'ed up all the time, I'm pretty sure Nate Oats is on pace to have more technicals than Hurley. None of these guys have to hear this stuff repeated ad nauseum every week of the season.
 
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Hurley babies his players is a great new take quake, on par with "Calhoun gave freshmen a long leash, irrespective of whether or not they deserved it."
Shut up with saying this until you actually name freshman he did not play that became good here. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Just what this thread needed, a tough guy act

Imagine thinking that Hurley not screaming his face off at Samson Johnson five times a game is the reason for anything.
I would’ve loved to see Hurley screaming his face off at Liam for a lot of his bad play down the stretch to correct it. It would’ve made him a better player.

Instead of not doing it to say you’re a nice guy while it also not helping the player. But refs? We’ll bully them.
 
90% of the things people have been mad at him for haven't been a result of him getting baited, and didn't have anything to do with fans. The current situation, the Maui situation, the "best coach in the country" situation, etc.

I get that Hurley can be abrasive but he's far from the only one. Calipari has been ejected more times than Hurley, Fran McCaffery at Iowa got T'ed up all the time, I'm pretty sure Nate Oats is on pace to have more technicals than Hurley. None of these guys have to hear this stuff repeated ad nauseum every week of the season.
It’s actually bizarre that Hurley doesn’t get T’d up more tbh. Like the best coach in the country tantrum didn’t earn a T? Refs must be petrified of him lol
 
I would’ve loved to see Hurley screaming his face off at Liam for a lot of his bad play down the stretch to correct it. It would’ve made him a better player.

Instead of not doing it to say you’re a nice guy while it also not helping the player. But refs? We’ll bully them.
You think you know best about how to make college basketball players improve?

That's your take?

You're better at coaching -- which is what we're talking about -- than Dan Hurley?

That's your point here, yes?
 
Reffing is a Problem
When I was trained as one I was taught the two Cardinal rules
1. Only call what you see which means if your not in a position to see the play swallow the whistle missing calls because you were not in a proper position is not an excuse for calling something you weren’t witness too. It was once explained if you had to take an oath as a witness and didn’t actually see the foul your committing perjury .
2. Don’t have rabbit ears . Simply shut out the crowd and coaches . Because if you’re paying attention to them you can’t possibly be doing a job that requires 100% concentration. By all means never exchange comments with either unless they are on your court. Neither has any business on the court unless there is an official stoppage.

That was with two officials using the L concept for positioning .
 
You think you know best about how to make college basketball players improve?

That's your take?

You're better at coaching -- which is what we're talking about -- than Dan Hurley?

That's your point here, yes?
Or I just look at what Calhoun did and work and see when Hurley doesn’t do that and therefore doesn’t get the player development results he does.
 
90% of the things people have been mad at him for haven't been a result of him getting baited, and didn't have anything to do with fans. The current situation, the Maui situation, the "best coach in the country" situation, etc.

I get that Hurley can be abrasive but he's far from the only one. Calipari has been ejected more times than Hurley, Fran McCaffery at Iowa got T'ed up all the time, I'm pretty sure Nate Oats is on pace to have more technicals than Hurley. None of these guys have to hear this stuff repeated ad nauseum every week of the season.

For sure... With success comes great scrutiny and exposure. He's won two titles, and there's going to be a camera or some twitter waiting for him to do something. The baited things I'm referring to are the interactions with fans, etc., that seem to be more of an issue with him than others. The big picture is, as he has said, his ego can get in the way of having a filter and at times, inhibit his self-control.

He's also a Hurley. And let's be honest, that family has annoyed people from the second Bobby took the court and had the runs against us in the F8 in 1990. They are lightning rods. There were people on this board who didn't want to hire Dan because he was a Hurley.

And I never said he's the only "abrasive" coach on the sidelines, and that matters very little to me. The Maui "T" was ill-advised, but him being a maniac on the sidelines is all good with me. He's great to our players and our university, and is a great, great coach. Just stop engaging with fans and coming off childish off the court.
 
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Lol there may be no coach in college sports more progressive or who fought for players rights more than Harbaugh while also not playing this NIL bag game we see currently.
Dr. Robert Anderson

Jim Harbaugh is a really bad guy.
 
Is he usually right about his complaints with refs?
Even if he is correct he needs to pick his battles. Even if he is right the call will not be reversed unless it is a call that can be reviewed.

It is like the boy who cried fable. If he keeps arguing every call vehemently when he does have a valid argument the refs will either ignore him or not give him the benefit of the doubt.

A reaction to what he thinks is a bad call right after the play is fine but to keep haranguing about minutes after the paly has ended is crazy.
 
It’s actually bizarre that Hurley doesn’t get T’d up more tbh. Like the best coach in the country tantrum didn’t earn a T? Refs must be petrified of him lol
He got a T for the "best coach" comment, only it came during the Big East Tourney. Nathan Farrell is a pretty good ref and puts up with a lot but seemed to have a short fuse with Hurley in the BET game against Villanova. I'm pretty sure Farrell is the one that Hurley made the "best coach" comment to.
 
Or I just look at what Calhoun did and work and see when Hurley doesn’t do that and therefore doesn’t get the player development results he does.
Sounds like a yes. You think by virtue of watching Calhoun you know better about coaching than Hurley.

Good to know where we stand
 
Zero self control -- you make it sound like he physically attacks refs. That's what zero self control means

No, that's not even close to what self control means.
 
Sounds like a yes. You think by virtue of watching Calhoun you know better about coaching than Hurley.

Good to know where we stand
That’s one way to spin it, sure. If you want to steer it away from just analyzing how one of the best developers ever in college basketball did things.
 
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You’re reaching. He said what his experience was.

The guy who first reported about these allegations even said nobody else knew at that time.

Thousands of victims while Harbaugh chose to protect the crown and offered up zero support or concern for the thousands of victims.

It shouldn't be at all difficult to say the doctor obviously victimized so many young people. Instead Harbaugh made it about himself and said the doctor didn't victimize me or my family. He offered up nothing to the victims, out of sight out of mind. He made it about himself again while talking about his former coach. He should have said I thought my former coach always stood up for what was right but he didn't do nearly enough when he was made aware of the crimes committed by the doctor. This inaction led to many more young victims. Any decent person would have done these things and made it about the victims and the inaction by the people in power. Harbaugh didn't do any of it.

 
Even if he is correct he needs to pick his battles. Even if he is right the call will not be reversed unless it is a call that can be reviewed.

It is like the boy who cried fable. If he keeps arguing every call vehemently when he does have a valid argument the refs will either ignore him or not give him the benefit of the doubt.

A reaction to what he thinks is a bad call right after the play is fine but to keep haranguing about minutes after the paly has ended is crazy.
I don’t disagree, I’m just not enough of a purist to know if he is right that the refs blew a call. Was Wondering what the more informed think.

In Maui, The over the back on Liam then the next night no over the back on the opponent seemed like egregious calls to me.

It seems like we never get a call at a key momemt…and typically key calls go against us when they really matter
 
You think you know best about how to make college basketball players improve?

That's your take?

You're better at coaching -- which is what we're talking about -- than Dan Hurley?

That's your point here, yes?

Don't force him to post the youtube video about dribbling with tennis balls.
 
Good man

Agree he seems to be a good man as I said before but we've heard this regret stuff from him
Is it going to stick to it this time or is he trying to buy some time and hope it fades away
I am sure the NCAA and the Officials/Refs are not as forgiving as UConn Nation.
 
Inyatkin said:
You think you know best about how to make college basketball players improve?

That's your take?

You're better at coaching -- which is what we're talking about -- than Dan Hurley?


That's your point here, yes?


You ask some insane questions and this argument sounds like it came from my 10 yo grandson

I've coached for almost 30 years up to the college age level and I acted like Hurley the first few years until a mentor sat me down and said my career would be very short if I kept it up. I then learned a lot from Joe Morrone and Bob Dirkranian at soccer clinics on how to interact with officials.
I think I have a better feel for this aspect of coaching than Dan Hurley and so does 99.9% of all college basketball coaches
He continues with this garbage and he will either destroy his career or the program. Nobody wants to see either, including me.
Wake up and realize that Dan Hurley has some serious anger management, maturity or insecurity issues.
Did you know at a very recent game one official politely asked Dan Hurley to not point his fingers at one particular working that game - not only did Dan Hurley smirk at the ref asking but continued to do the pointing.
Nobody is claiming he is a terrible person or a bad coach, for from it my eyes, but he has a flaw, and it has potentially bad ramifications on the program he loves and the kids he coaches. Time to coach from the bench rather than be the show on the bench as my mentor (God rest his soul) would say.
 
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