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Hurley Apologistas

HuskyHawk said:
I’m never going to complain about the fact that Hurley has brought life back to the program. He’s a high energy guy and a great recruiter. I had concerns about his X’s and O’s at URI when it looked like we were about to hire him. I assumed (a) he was forced into it somewhat by the players he had and (b) he could learn and adapt.

So far I’m not seeing much adaptation. He forces square pegs into round holes over and over and just pounds on them expecting a fit. He strikes me as unusually arrogant. Either the assistants are telling him what he wants to hear or are afraid to speak freely. I don’t know we can expect Clingan to ever play for this team if he simply will not adjust his defense to fit his players. The big problem this causes is that every decent coach we face, like yesterday, knows what Hurley will do and exploits it. He never shows them anything different.
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This is a very good articulation of the real problem.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Agree. I think he’s the right guy for the job. I’d say he has done a really good job overall. It’s funny that some people here think that should make him immune to criticism. I don’t think even he thinks that. I’m sure he disagrees with some of the criticism. The huskies are currently stuck in the same rut they were in last year, playing the same slow, offensively challenged low scoring games. Then we turned it on and started scoring and winning.

This PC game is the St, Johns game last year where Hurley went small and got out coached. Guy gets hot outside for the other team and he abandons interior defense. If he hasn’t figured out that he cannot consider Polley a 4 and cannot play without a 4, then I don’t know what will convince him. He has some weird aversion to the other team making 3s. He will sell out to stop it, even if it means giving them layups. Sanogo will solve some of this for him, but I never want to see us play without 2 of Sanogo, Whaley, Akok, Johnson, Springs except maybe with a big lead late for FT shooting.
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I think Hurley is used to being the hunter and not the hunted. He's used to having to rely on upperclassmen because in the A-10 you have to. You aren't consistenly getting top 50 players. Hurley has developed a way of doing things and has been successful with it. Sometimes the hardest people to convince to change are the ones who have experienced success. I don't doubt Hurley's basketball IQ or ability. I think the issue is he still trusts his way. Defensively he's fine or even elite. On offense he needs to incorporate more movement off the ball. It isn't rocket science, he knows how to do it. And I trust he will. If this is Hurley at his worst, i can't wait to see him at his best.
 
Banta55 said:
What ? You have no idea not going to fire him..
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Never said they were. Asked when they would if he continued to have mediocre seasons. Rooting for them to do well - a good basketball team is good for UCONN.
 
CTBballfan243 said:
I have no problem with the coaching. The players need to step up and make shots and defend not the coach. College basketball isn’t a video game.
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Coach's are responsible for game plans and then in game decisions which are practiced in advance. Players execute the plans and backup plans. Players need confidence in the plans. No planning, no confidence. I vividly remember the earlier Calhoun teams with depth. They very often initially fell behind but continued running, pressing and basically wearing out the opponents. Their depth and conditioning gave them the confidence to KNOW they were going to own the last 10 minutes of the game. And guess what? So did the opponents. Relentless, confident, no quit, no hesitation play. It became a matter of enforcing their will. JC didn't have to hype up the players. He expected them to demonstrate the execution of plans from practice. Forget that in game? TO and screaming. Call it conditioning. He was predictable to the players. Said what he meant and wanted and meant what he said.
 
tzznandrew said:
Offense always takes longer to develop, and we don't have an offensive identity. It's what happens when your offense was centered around a lottery pick who left, and as you worked to establish a new one around Sanogo, he gets hurt. Just as in the beginning of the year, we aren't going to go far with Cole as our best perimeter scorer: Jackson or Hawkins needs to step up.

The good news is that the defense will essentially keep us in every game.
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The offensive identity, even if he doesn’t know it, is to score off of defensive rebounds. Cooley knew it. Early game when PC shot all the players went back, nobody crashed the boards because it’s what Cooley wanted to shut down the break.

Then, Hurley pulled too many rebounders and PC could actually dominate the offensive glass in the 2nd half. Our identity needs to be that of a long, athletic team that will own the boards and run on you. Jacking more than 20 3s, that can’t happen if we want to win games. We are taking them because the defense is giving them, hoping we will. Sanogo changes that some, but still we have to rebound and run to score.
 
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dennismenace said:
Coach's are responsible for game plans and then in game decisions which are practiced in advance. Players execute the plans and backup plans. Players need confidence in the plans. No planning, no confidence. I vividly remember the earlier Calhoun teams with depth. They very often initially fell behind but continued running, pressing and basically wearing out the opponents. Their depth and conditioning gave them the confidence to KNOW they were going to own the last 10 minutes of the game. And guess what? So did the opponents. Relentless, confident, no quit, no hesitation play. It became a matter of enforcing their will. JC didn't have to hype up the players. He expected them to demonstrate the execution of plans from practice. Forget that in game? TO and screaming. Call it conditioning. He was predictable to the players. Said what he meant and wanted and meant what he said.
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This is a great post, the last 10 minutes was where Calhoun teams dominated. There and by routinely getting to the line a lot, and often times making even more free throws than the opponent attempted
 
AntG168 said:
If we can stop expecting Jim Calhoun, this board and this ride will be much more enjoyable. Calhoun is arguably the greatest college coach ever. Chances are we are never getting another Calhoun. No one is.
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I'm not expecting Jim Calhoun. I think it's still fair to demand better as a fanbase. The guy makes 3 million a year, he deserves some accountability.
 
husky429 said:
I'm not expecting Jim Calhoun. I think it's still fair to demand better as a fanbase. The guy makes 3 million a year, he deserves some accountability.
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Agreed. But in every post all I see is references to Jim Calhoun. He doesn't need to be a Jim Calhoun level in game coach to win a championship. A Kevin Ollie circa 2014 in game coach will do. Not elite. Not terrible. Sufficient. That should be the expectation. If we keep expecting Calhoun, we'll never be happy.
 
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There is something very flawed when you click on the little GIF app here, type in Jim Calhoun, and the only images that come up are Jim Halpert. So I'll go with Packer.

Season 2 Nbc GIF by The Office
 
Brochacho said:
I'm mad at Hurley but I love him. People forget Calhoun had 14? seasons at Northeastern before coming to UConn to develop as a coach. Hurley is an excellent recruiter and program manager. The in game coaching isn't there right now but he should get there with time. There's no reason to even think about moving on from him at this time.
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Not sure your point......Dan Hurley had 8 years as a head coach and 4 as an assistant at the D1 level before coming here. It ain't like he's just starting out.
 
BGesus4 said:
I’m just curious how many of the people who want Hurley’s head now were the ones claiming we were headed to the final four before we went to Atlantis.

People need to get out of their feelings and act like they’ve watched the ups and downs of college basketball before.
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Damn straight
 
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AntG168 said:
If we can stop expecting Jim Calhoun, this board and this ride will be much more enjoyable. Calhoun is arguably the greatest college coach ever. Chances are we are never getting another Calhoun. No one is.
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AntG168 said:
If we can stop expecting Jim Calhoun, this board and this ride will be much more enjoyable. Calhoun is arguably the greatest college coach ever. Chances are we are never getting another Calhoun. No one is.
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It would be more accurate to say that Calhoun was UConn's greatest coach ever. But... Lou Carnesecca, Dean Smith, Roy Williams, and John Thompson all had him beat.
 
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hank970 said:
It would be more accurate to say that Calhoun was UConn's greatest coach ever. But... Lou Carnesecca, Dean Smith, Roy Williams, and John Thompson all had him beat.
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1. I said arguably
2. Your just wrong in my opinion. What Calhoun built, none of them can come close. Maybe dean smith, or K. Thats it in my opinion.
 
When we were at full strength with Sanogo the ball was movng well and the offense looked pretty good. We’re losing games close now and Sanogo is just too big a piece to lose and expect great offense. 14 points 8 rebounds. Combine that with bad shooting and there we have it. Blame Hurley?
 
jibsey said:
When we were at full strength with Sanogo the ball was movng well and the offense looked pretty good. We’re losing games close now and Sanogo is just too big a piece to lose and expect great offense. 14 points 8 rebounds. Combine that with bad shooting and there we have it. Blame Hurley?
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Yes, blame Hurley for SOME of it...like not starting our offense until the shot clock is winding down...for having too much pride to call necessary timeouts...for running an offense that constantly requires 5 man to reverse the ball 25 foot from the basket which is uncomfortable and jams everything up.

Can't blame him for Cole and Martin missing 4 free throws in a row or Polley, supposedly one of the best shooters in the conference, not being able to hit open 3's.
 
AntG168 said:
1. I said arguably
2. Your just wrong in my opinion. What Calhoun built, none of them can come close. Maybe dean smith, or K. Thats it in my opinion.
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And then there's John Wooden...
 
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