2021 Recruiting: Hunter Salis update

[Road2Six]

“Really the blue blood programs that have recruited me are still involved. The schools around the area like Creighton, Nebraska, Iowa State, Then Florida, Alabama, Oregon, Louisville, UConn, and more,” Sallis said on who’s involved.

Five-star junior Hunter Sallis talks his recruitment, new schools in the mix

The latest on five-star guard Hunter Sallis

stockrisers.com

 

[HooperScooper]

“Really the blue blood programs that have recruited me are still involved. The schools around the area like Creighton, Nebraska, Iowa State, Then Florida, Alabama, Oregon, Louisville, UConn, and more,” Sallis said on who’s involved.

Five-star junior Hunter Sallis talks his recruitment, new schools in the mix

The latest on five-star guard Hunter Sallis

stockrisers.com

“I've had zooms with Kansas, UNC, Iowa State, Oregon, Alabama, Creighton, and Arkansas.”

Nothing with UConn because that hopefully means they already have their 2021 SG locked up.

 

[bendm]

The schools around the area like Creighton, Nebraska, Iowa State, Then Florida, Alabama, Oregon, Louisville, UConn, and more

wow well Hurley and Co can beat out any of those programs, although later in the article he does mention UNC, Kansas, and UK.

as a CG sallis would be a great fit between diggins and hawkins.

my question is whether this is evidence that a 5* is the exception to waiting to fill Bouk's scholly or is this evidence that a hawkins or johnson commit is in doubt?

 

[Watchdog]

Here we go:
"Sallis said that he’s recently been in contact with Kentucky. He has yet to speak with head coach John Calipari, but, he says that he’s been talking with an assistant and they said they would love to watch more of him in-person. They’ve been watching his film and looking at games online. As far as his recruitment remains open, could see if UK bolsters more interest."

Translation: They have someone else they'd prefer but want to keep him on a string so they can reel him in if necessary. Let's see, Hamidou Diallo, Wenyen Gabriel. Hard to believe CAL hasn't found the time to speak with someone so highly regarded. What's he doing? Sewing face masks?

 

[UCfor3]

Eversource was woefully unprepared for this storm. Hearing it could be "2 weeks" for some folks in CT before they get power. Eversource's outage reporting tool crashed. Still no ETAs for when power is returning for almost everyone I talk to. I don't even see crews/trucks when I am around town (Brookfield/Danbury/Newtown). Eversource said they're estimating to have 99% of individuals with power by TUESDAY night... no chance that happens based on how things have gone so far.

On top of all that, an Eversource executive said the cost of the work done after Isaias will go into customers' bills at some point. So we have that to look forward to.

Even before the storm, they were accused of jacking-up their "delivery fees" in the summer months and blaming it on "high AC usage". For many, the "deliver fees" were more than the cost of actual electricity used. All this price gouging during a pandemic where many are struggling financially.

Why do we allow these utility monopolies to operate? There's no competition for Eversource so they can just coast through everything, jack up our rates, and then when situations like this occur, there's no alternative and surely no repercussions.

Cable companies are just as bad. Lamont won't do anything about these utility monopolies in our state. We just have to deal with it. In this day and age, it's completely unacceptable.

It's been a problem long before Lamont has been in office. Awful company.

 

[bendm]

They have someone else they'd prefer but want to keep him on a string so they can reel him in if necessary. Let's see, Hamidou Diallo, Wenyen Gabriel. Hard to believe CAL hasn't found the time to speak with someone so highly regarded. What's he doing? Sewing face masks?

why wouldn't sallis want to be a coaches top priority, like diggins implied about Hurley v. Wright?

I get why players want to play for coach K, but i've never understood why they flock to UK to play for a used car salesmen that does nothing in terms of player development and cant win a chip without the best college player of the past 20 years.

if they have the talent they'll make it to the nba coming from most P5/BE schools and they wouldnt have to come off the bench (e.g. Devin Booker, Khalil Whitney, EJ Montgomery), or be over shadowed by superstars (e.g. Davis, Wall, Clark).

edit- this comment is aimed specifically at guys like johnny juzang and camron fletcher who commit knowing theyre locked into at best a 6th man role behind top 10-15 guys in the same class that play the same position

 

[Fatroony5]

why wouldn't sallis want to be a coaches top priority, like diggins implied about Hurley v. Wright?

I get why 5* players want to play for coach K, but i've never understood why they flock to UK to play for a used car salesmen that does nothing in terms of player development and cant win a chip without the best college player of the past 20 years.

if they have the talent they'll make it to the nba coming from most P5/BE schools and they wouldnt have to come off the bench (e.g. Devin Booker, Khalil Whitney, EJ Montgomery), or be over shadowed by superstars (e.g. Davis, Wall, Clark).

He definitely gives of a sleazy vibe, I’m not a fan of Coach Cal at all, I think his actual coaching is a bit overrated. He should have at least another championship or two to his name.

But I’ll disagree with the player development stuff. I mean, the guys he’s coached and put into the league speak for themselves, that’s why guys want to play there even if they’re not “the top option.” If you play for Cal, you have a solid chance of being a lottery pick, everyone knows it, they’re track record is better than any college out there right now. He’s had 21 lottery picks and 29 first round picks at Kentucky, it’s pretty staggering. Maybe he’s not the best coach or best developer of talent, but man that resume sells itself to these high level players.

 

[bendm]

If you play for Cal, you have a solid chance of being a lottery pick, everyone knows it, they’re track record is better than any college out there right now. He’s had 21 lottery picks and 29 first round picks at Kentucky, it’s pretty staggering. Maybe he’s not the best coach or best developer of talent, but man that resume sells itself to these high level players

my point is that reputation has less to do with Cal than the players themselves. they were NBA bound regardless of who the coach was, to a significant degree. i'm not saying kevin ollie would have been able to get them all to the league as quickly but dozens of other coaches could have if they were at UK instead. if calhoun had been the coach at UK this whole time every player he ever signed might be in the league right now.

 

[Fatroony5]

my point is that reputation is unwarranted and has less to do with Cal than the players themselves. they were NBA bound regardless of who the coach was, to a significant degree. i'm not saying kevin ollie would have been able to get them all to the league but dozens of other coaches could have.

I hear ya, they’re high level players already so it’s more likely that they would get to the league. I’m sure there are other coaches who could do that, but no one has to the level that he has. He’s the grandfather of the one and done. It’s clear when you go play for him, the expectation is you’ll be a lottery pick. No other program (not even Duke ) can really say that. It’s crazy to look back and see the guys he’s produced even since like 2015.
PJ Washington, Tyler Herro, SGA, De’Aaron Fox, Malik Monk, Bam Adebayo, Jamal Murray, KAT, Devon Booker etc etc. That’s quite the list to sell to recruits. Not saying I like him or I’d play for him, but I get the appeal for 5 star kids and why they would.

 

[bendm]

Not saying I like him or I’d play for him, but I get the appeal for 5 star kids and why they would.

with the talent Cal brings in to begin with, he'd have more than 1 chip if he consistently developed them into better players. but i'm not faulting the top 10-15 ranked guys that walk into starting roles, i get that. this is about the borderline 5* players that get buried on the depth chart

 

[husky429]

with the talent Cal brings in to begin with, he'd have more than 1 chip if he consistently developed them into better players. but i'm not faulting the top 10-15 ranked guys that walk into starting roles, i get that. this is about the borderline 5* players that get buried on the depth chart

Wenyen Gabriel is a prime example. Goes to UK last minute and isn't able to do anything on the court so his stock drops. Now he's all over the news because he is telling recruits NOT to go to UK and had a falling out with Cal

 

[bendm]

Wenyen Gabriel is a prime example. Goes to UK last minute and isn't able to do anything on the court so his stock drops. Now he's all over the news because he is telling recruits NOT to go to UK and had a falling out with Cal

here's hoping recruits and their mentors start to realize the emperor has no clothes. with juzang and whitney both transferring out of last year's class it might be starting

 

[Watchdog]

here's hoping recruits and their mentors start to realize the emperor has no clothes. with juzang and whitney both transferring out of last year's class it might be starting

My soapbox presentation would include the aforementioned Wenyen Gabriel plus Hamidou Diallo, Doron Lamb and quite a few more. Doron was the higher rated Lamb coming out of high school in the same class as Jeremy. Where's Doron today? God knows, but it's not in the NBA on a long term contract.
A top 10 player becoming a lottery pick after spending 7 months on campus is more a testimony to their god given abilities than to development.
Calipari is a salesman. He got notoriety recruiting for Pitt then made his mark at UMass, reportedly with the pipeline he had from the Connecticut AAU guy whose name escapes me. He took undersized guys who wanted to prove the major schools' recruiters wrong (Jim McCoy, Harper Williams, etc.) and knew how to use them. If Bill Bayno didn't lock up Marcus Camby, where would he be today? Maybe at Kentucky, but not for sure. You have to give him credit for sales, not for development. Camby had a nice career but I wonder what might have been in college and the NBA if he had played for Calhoun. No, I don't wonder, I know.
Calhoun always told his players he would use his sources to let them know if they would be a high pick and if they were ready. Otherwise he would tell them, as he did with RIP, to stay one more year because the life changing money is in the second contract and that comes from skill and knowledge he imparted to them on what it takes to really make it. Not just a flash in the pan and nothing beyond three years.

 

[QuickDraw]

I'd take him with the third ship if he wanted to commit today, without a doubt. A gt in the spring and #5 would not be far from reach

 

[navery12]

 

[olehead]

why wouldn't sallis want to be a coaches top priority, like diggins implied about Hurley v. Wright?

I get why players want to play for coach K, but i've never understood why they flock to UK to play for a used car salesmen that does nothing in terms of player development and cant win a chip without the best college player of the past 20 years.

if they have the talent they'll make it to the nba coming from most P5/BE schools and they wouldnt have to come off the bench (e.g. Devin Booker, Khalil Whitney, EJ Montgomery), or be over shadowed by superstars (e.g. Davis, Wall, Clark).

edit- this comment is aimed specifically at guys like johnny juzang and camron fletcher who commit knowing theyre locked into at best a 6th man role behind top 10-15 guys in the same class that play the same position

Cam Fletcher can come here next year and get ready for the league battling against Andre every day. Multi-skilled and long.

Edit: Am I in violation of unspoken of but understood "tampering" BY rules?

 

[mauconnfan]

I'd take him with the third ship if he wanted to commit today, without a doubt. A gt in the spring and #5 would not be far from reach

The 3rd ship is Samson Johnson already right?

 

[Lynyrd]

The 3rd ship is Samson Johnson already right?

Correct

 

[navery12]

The 3rd ship is Samson Johnson already right?

Yeah he posted that before the commit. Have to imagine he's not coming here now

 

[QuickDraw]

Yeah he posted that before the commit. Have to imagine he's not coming here now

yup

 

[dennismenace]

I get why players want to play for coach K, but i've never understood why they flock to UK to play for a used car salesmen that does nothing in terms of player development and cant win a chip without the best college player of the past 20 years.

 

[nomar]

Apropos of nothing, my wife went to Millard North. Eric Crouch is an alumnus.

 

[PChoops]

here's hoping recruits and their mentors start to realize the emperor has no clothes. with juzang and whitney both transferring out of last year's class it might be starting

My mindset is a little different, if I'm a borderline 5* player, why not play with the best players, only helps your game. Example SGA was high 30s I think and beat out Quade Green top 15

 

[Hey Adrien!]

My mindset is a little different, if I'm a borderline 5* player, why not play with the best players, only helps your game.

It helps your game when you get your butt off the bench. If I'm Juzang, why would I sign with UK when there were already two higher ranked commits that play the same position as me?

 

[PChoops]

It helps your game when you get your butt off the bench. If I'm Juzang, why would I sign with UK when there were already two higher ranked commits that play the same position as me?

Every player is different, but in his defense he did get more mins near the end of the year, also the only one coming back is Keion Brooks and I'm not high on him(he should have chose a different school) can juzang beat out Boston and Clarke and the others, maybe.

 

[auror]

I get why players want to play for coach K, but i've never understood why they flock to UK to play for a used car salesmen that does nothing in terms of player development and cant win a chip without the best college player of the past 20 years.

Because you get more exposure at Kentucky than elsewhere other than Duke. Playing with other great players means you get scouted more. Plus the ESPN/media/BBN hype machine.

 

[mauconnfan]

Because you get more exposure at Kentucky than elsewhere other than Duke. Playing with other great players means you get scouted more. Plus the ESPN/media/BBN hype machine.

Nah I don't believe that but the fact is many parents do. Well maybe they see you more often but if you're a top player at Seton Hall/Creighton or Duke/UK they aren't analyzing you any differently and scouting you just as much as they feel warranted for their interest in that player.

 

[polycom]

Nah I don't believe that but the fact is many parents do. Well maybe they see you more often but if you're a top player at Seton Hall/Creighton or Duke/UK they aren't analyzing you any differently and scouting you just as much as they feel warranted for their interest in that player.

Branding. Zion isn't Zion if he goes to Seton Hall. His brand becomes what it is because he went to duke.

 

[HuskyFich]

Nah I don't believe that but the fact is many parents do. Well maybe they see you more often but if you're a top player at Seton Hall/Creighton or Duke/UK they aren't analyzing you any differently and scouting you just as much as they feel warranted for their interest in that player.

it’s all the brand. Many/most would want to go to a school that probably has the strongest fan base in the country, hosts all 32 nba teams for scouting practices, and is all but guaranteed to have media talking heads blowing fairy dust about them constantly. Besides, it’s not like the only relationship$ made are on the basketball court directly.

if I was a kid that wanted the EASY, friction free road to the NBA, I’d chicken out and pick UK too.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Because you get more exposure at Kentucky than elsewhere other than Duke. Playing with other great players means you get scouted more. Plus the ESPN/media/BBN hype machine.

Fixed it for you. It's 2020. If you have talent every NBA team will see you and scout you. See Morant, Ja.

First sentence is true because of the third sentence.