How UConn landed Jovana Popovic

[RockyMTblue2]

Rocky, stop and think about it for a second. A kid accepts a UConn scholarship. Would you expect her to say SC or Texas, or whatever was their dream? They would never get out of the doghouse.

I utterly refuse to stick my nose out of my UConn bubble!

 

[Fairfield_1st]

this isn't about nika; it's about using the language correctly and not reinforcing the idea that scoring is the only way to contribute to offense in BB,

i thought i made that clear. sorry it rankled u.

BTW, this is a thread about jovana. connolly brought nika into the conversation ... at least he should get it right, right?

Maybe his comment on offense wasn't as broad as yours. I tend to agree with Daniel in that if someone makes a comment about offense, it implies scoring, and that's how most of his readers perceive those comments too. He is writing for them. Andre Jackson checked many of your boxes, but nobody would say he was a great offensive player. He impacted the offense, but scoring wise, defenders slumped off him and that made it harder on the other players.
I know this bothers you, but he's speaking correctly. I think non scoring plays are called intangibles. You have to have them, but offense=points. It's just a difference of opinion.

 

[HuskyNan]

Maybe his comment on offense wasn't as broad as yours. I tend to agree with Daniel in that if someone makes a comment about offense, it implies scoring, and that's how most of his readers perceive those comments too. He is writing for them. Andre Jackson checked many of your boxes, but nobody would say he was a great offensive player. He impacted the offense, but scoring wise, defenders slumped off him and that made it harder on the other players.
I know this bothers you, but he's speaking correctly. I think non scoring plays are called intangibles. You have to have them, but offense=points. It's just a difference of opinion.

For the women’s board, replace Andre’s name with Kelly Faris or Aubrey Griffin

 

[Fairfield_1st]

For the women’s board, replace Andre’s name with Kelly Faris or Aubrey Griffin

I appreciate your request, but he was the best example of someone that checked so many buckets, but not scoring. Faris checked boxes, but she could score as well. Not dynamic, but not a black hole. I realize this is a women's board and many are women's fans only, but it's also a UConn board. I support all things UConn and my brain went to the best example it could find of a stat filter with no scoring.

 

[HuskyNan]

I appreciate your request, but he was the best example of someone that checked so many buckets, but not scoring. Faris checked boxes, but she could score as well. Not dynamic, but not a black hole. I realize this is a women's board and many are women's fans only, but it's also a UConn board. I support all things UConn and my brain went to the best example it could find of a stat filter with no scoring.

I didn’t mean to correct your post at all. However women’s fans tend to root for the women’s team only and may not be familiar with Andre Jackson.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

I didn’t mean to correct your post at all. However women’s fans tend to root for the women’s team only and may not be familiar with Andre Jackson.

We're all good. I understand the dynamic. My parents followed the women only. As a grad ('90), I follow and support every sport that I can. I just couldn't find a better example for my defense of Daniel's terminology usage than AJ.

 

[Crossover]

For the women’s board, replace Andre’s name with Kelly Faris or Aubrey Griffin

Maybe his comment on offense wasn't as broad as yours. I tend to agree with Daniel in that if someone makes a comment about offense, it implies scoring, and that's how most of his readers perceive those comments too. He is writing for them. Andre Jackson checked many of your boxes, but nobody would say he was a great offensive player. He impacted the offense, but scoring wise, defenders slumped off him and that made it harder on the other players.
I know this bothers you, but he's speaking correctly. I think non scoring plays are called intangibles. You have to have them, but offense=points. It's just a difference of opinion.

I will take up that challenge. Andre Jackson was a great offensive player at UConn.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

I will take up that challenge. Andre Jackson was a great offensive player at UConn.

It wasn't really a challenge. It's just an opinion. He is a freak athlete, did lots of things, and was critical to the team's success, but he had one of the worst outside shots we've ever seen and opposing defenses did slump off him, thereby clogging the lane. He was not an offensive threat. My initial contention, that the other poster disagrees with, is that when you talk about someone's offensive game, it's primarily a discussion about their scoring and not the other things they do.

 

[PacoSwede]

It wasn't really a challenge. It's just an opinion. He is a freak athlete, did lots of things, and was critical to the team's success, but he had one of the worst outside shots we've ever seen and opposing defenses did slump off him, thereby clogging the lane. He was not an offensive threat. My initial contention, that the other poster disagrees with, is that when you talk about someone's offensive game, it's primarily a discussion about their scoring and not the other things they do.

that was exactly the problem! 🌟

making shots clearly is the objective of the offense, but it's not accomplished in a vacuum. many things contribute, such as gaining control of the ball and getting it to the right shooter in the right spot. that's discounted when we are repeatedly told ripping the cords is the measure of a player's value.

to say shooting is primarily responsible for a good offense is flawed. it diminishes all that is necessary in offense. 👍 good shooting can be praised without devaluing other components of offense. using accurate language, rather than routinely making shooting a synonym of offense cleans this up.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

to say shooting is primarily responsible for a good offense is flawed. it diminishes all that is necessary in offense.

Nobody is saying shooting alone makes for a good team offense, but when referring to an individual player, if you refer to their offense, the common person takes that to mean scoring. Expecting Daniel to refine his writing to be different from what people expect is unreasonable.