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Kia was always going to be an important part of UConn's team: she got major minutes from her very first games. A very tough-nosed defender, that's always a great basis for a good relationship with the Coach.

But we all saw her struggles, especially on offense. Couldn't hit her jumper consistently; insisted on a Euro-step drive that got her to the basket, but way too often blew the lay-up. Eventually, after a terrible offensive game in (I think) Feb. of her sophomore year, she had a public crying jag, for which Geno called her out. We might say that that moment turned her around.

Still, her Olympic summer was far more down than up. One sensational game, but otherwise a lot of forced and ill-advised shots. Unfair for her to have to carry such expectations against mostly professionals on other teams, but there it is.

This year, she's got tremendous confidence in her outside shot and, giving up on the Euro-step power drive, she almost never misses a lay-up.

But, what struck me most was a play today against Temple early in the 3rd, when she went coast-to-coast, and, after making the shot, backpedaled up court to guard against a fast break. Just perfect. But more than perfect, it is her overall body strength that is really working for her now. Kia came to UConn fit, but after 3 years of weight training and aerobics her body is uber-fit and really helps her mental game.

The beauty of WCBB is that almost all of them stay 4 years, and we can watch the developmental arc--both mental and physical--of a confused and scared kid who is just months out of high school to a confident young adult who is months away from playing professional ball.

There is a bunch of UConn freshman and sophomores who will go through this same developmental arc. Stay tuned....and be patient.
 
Kia was always going to be an important part of UConn's team: she got major minutes from her very first games. A very tough-nosed defender, that's always a great basis for a good relationship with the Coach.

But we all saw her struggles, especially on offense. Couldn't hit her jumper consistently; insisted on a Euro-step drive that got her to the basket, but way too often blew the lay-up. Eventually, after a terrible offensive game in (I think) Feb. of her sophomore year, she had a public crying jag, for which Geno called her out. We might say that that moment turned her around.

Still, her Olympic summer was far more down than up. One sensational game, but otherwise a lot of forced and ill-advised shots. Unfair for her to have to carry such expectations against mostly professionals on other teams, but there it is.

This year, she's got tremendous confidence in her outside shot and, giving up on the Euro-step power drive, she almost never misses a lay-up.

But, what struck me most was a play today against Temple early in the 3rd, when she went coast-to-coast, and, after making the shot, backpedaled up court to guard against a fast break. Just perfect. But more than perfect, it is her overall body strength that is really working for her now. Kia came to UConn fit, but after 3 years of weight training and aerobics her body is uber-fit and really helps her mental game.

The beauty of WCBB is that almost all of them stay 4 years, and we can watch the developmental arc--both mental and physical--of a confused and scared kid who is just months out of high school to a confident young adult who is months away from playing professional ball.

There is a bunch of UConn freshman and sophomores who will go through this same developmental arc.
It may have seemed improbable in October but I believe Kia has emerged as UConn's leading aspirant for All-America accolades this season. She's a dependable scorer, an excellent 3-point shooter, a superb defender, a strong leader and a tough and indefatigable competitor.
 
Kia was always going to be an important part of UConn's team: she got major minutes from her very first games. A very tough-nosed defender, that's always a great basis for a good relationship with the Coach.

But we all saw her struggles, especially on offense. Couldn't hit her jumper consistently; insisted on a Euro-step drive that got her to the basket, but way too often blew the lay-up. Eventually, after a terrible offensive game in (I think) Feb. of her sophomore year, she had a public crying jag, for which Geno called her out. We might say that that moment turned her around.

Still, her Olympic summer was far more down than up. One sensational game, but otherwise a lot of forced and ill-advised shots. Unfair for her to have to carry such expectations against mostly professionals on other teams, but there it is.

This year, she's got tremendous confidence in her outside shot and, giving up on the Euro-step power drive, she almost never misses a lay-up.

But, what struck me most was a play today against Temple early in the 3rd, when she went coast-to-coast, and, after making the shot, backpedaled up court to guard against a fast break. Just perfect. But more than perfect, it is her overall body strength that is really working for her now. Kia came to UConn fit, but after 3 years of weight training and aerobics her body is uber-fit and really helps her mental game.

The beauty of WCBB is that almost all of them stay 4 years, and we can watch the developmental arc--both mental and physical--of a confused and scared kid who is just months out of high school to a confident young adult who is months away from playing professional ball.

There is a bunch of UConn freshman and sophomores who will go through this same developmental arc. Stay tuned....and be patient.
If I were voting for a UConn player for All-America right now, it'd be Kia. She's been really solid. Lou has played like an All-American, too, but her injuries have held her back. She might well still make it though.
 
And she's flexible.

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Note the General and her clip board.
 
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My response likely won't be very popular here.
Kia is a truly wonderful college player who puts in and gets out everything that is possible out of her abilities. She is as hard nosed a player as there is in WCB. She plays relentless defense and is now a very good shooter. She's very bright, well spoken and focused.
In terms of first team AA or a really good WNBA player I don't see it. I don't think she has the quickness and innate athletic ability to be a top notch pro player. From all I've seen she isn't able to create her own shot.
I'm sorry but while I don't know what this team would do without her, many here might be getting a tad carried away.
Bronx23
 
My response likely won't be very popular here.
Kia is a truly wonderful college player who puts in and gets out everything that is possible out of her abilities. She is as hard nosed a player as there is in WCB. She plays relentless defense and is now a very good shooter. She's very bright, well spoken and focused.
In terms of first team AA or a really good WNBA player I don't see it. I don't think she has the quickness and innate athletic ability to be a top notch pro player. From all I've seen she isn't able to create her own shot.
I'm sorry but while I don't know what this team would do without her, many here might be getting a tad carried away.
Bronx23
male version of Kia:
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My response likely won't be very popular here.
Kia is a truly wonderful college player who puts in and gets out everything that is possible out of her abilities. She is as hard nosed a player as there is in WCB. She plays relentless defense and is now a very good shooter. She's very bright, well spoken and focused.
In terms of first team AA or a really good WNBA player I don't see it. I don't think she has the quickness and innate athletic ability to be a top notch pro player. From all I've seen she isn't able to create her own shot.
I'm sorry but while I don't know what this team would do without her, many here might be getting a tad carried away.
Bronx23
Whats funny about your post is that many WNBA GM's have stated that Kia is most likely a Top 5 pick.
 
Kia was always going to be an important part of UConn's team: she got major minutes from her very first games. A very tough-nosed defender, that's always a great basis for a good relationship with the Coach.

But we all saw her struggles, especially on offense. Couldn't hit her jumper consistently; insisted on a Euro-step drive that got her to the basket, but way too often blew the lay-up. Eventually, after a terrible offensive game in (I think) Feb. of her sophomore year, she had a public crying jag, for which Geno called her out. We might say that that moment turned her around.

Still, her Olympic summer was far more down than up. One sensational game, but otherwise a lot of forced and ill-advised shots. Unfair for her to have to carry such expectations against mostly professionals on other teams, but there it is.

This year, she's got tremendous confidence in her outside shot and, giving up on the Euro-step power drive, she almost never misses a lay-up.

But, what struck me most was a play today against Temple early in the 3rd, when she went coast-to-coast, and, after making the shot, backpedaled up court to guard against a fast break. Just perfect. But more than perfect, it is her overall body strength that is really working for her now. Kia came to UConn fit, but after 3 years of weight training and aerobics her body is uber-fit and really helps her mental game.

The beauty of WCBB is that almost all of them stay 4 years, and we can watch the developmental arc--both mental and physical--of a confused and scared kid who is just months out of high school to a confident young adult who is months away from playing professional ball.

There is a bunch of UConn freshman and sophomores who will go through this same developmental arc. Stay tuned....and be patient.

Yeah, Kia was and is the gutsy real deal. She was early thrown into the mix, put her head down and has never looked back, or been given extra time to get ready. It would be a crime for her not to be chosen as an All American because (as others have said) Kia deserves to be on the wall.
 
My response likely won't be very popular here.
Kia is a truly wonderful college player who puts in and gets out everything that is possible out of her abilities. She is as hard nosed a player as there is in WCB. She plays relentless defense and is now a very good shooter. She's very bright, well spoken and focused.
In terms of first team AA or a really good WNBA player I don't see it. I don't think she has the quickness and innate athletic ability to be a top notch pro player. From all I've seen she isn't able to create her own shot.
I'm sorry but while I don't know what this team would do without her, many here might be getting a tad carried away.
Bronx23
Respectfully, can't agree.
 
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C.D. to the troops: I need you guys to start kickin' and takin' names.The first thing you need is these here pointy shoes and the clipboard is to assist you in the second part.
 
I've been thinking lately that Kia might get drafted before Gabby.
Maybe, but remember Gabby is dealing with a physical problem that takes away the thing that sets her apart from every other basketball player, her ability to explode vertically and horizontally.
 
And Red Auerbach is on record as saying the one player who most exemplifies the Boston Celtic tradition is Dennis Johnson. Very good comparison.
As far as one comment about Kia not being quick enough, I'll just point to one Larry Bird who could neither run or jump. He could only win!
 
My prior response was to where's she projected in the draft.
Yes Larry Bird was not that quick and was one of the greatest NBA players of all time. The analogy though, is exactly what I meant.
Kia does so many things very well but to compare her in any way to Larry Bird is at best, an extreme comparison.
My comments were not meant as a criticism of her play in any way, just what I see as her limitations.
Bronx23
 
I think her biggest weakness is her difficulty in creating her own shot. However, lately she has been giving a fake to her defender and dribbling to an open spot to take the shot. She is starting to get better at creating her shot.
 
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My response likely won't be very popular here.
Kia is a truly wonderful college player who puts in and gets out everything that is possible out of her abilities. She is as hard nosed a player as there is in WCB. She plays relentless defense and is now a very good shooter. She's very bright, well spoken and focused.
In terms of first team AA or a really good WNBA player I don't see it. I don't think she has the quickness and innate athletic ability to be a top notch pro player. From all I've seen she isn't able to create her own shot.
I'm sorry but while I don't know what this team would do without her, many here might be getting a tad carried away.
Bronx23
A few games ago, I thought the same thing. But the aforementioned steal and drive, among the other things Bags mentioned, has changed my mind. The speed on that drive could not be mistaken.
 
C.D. to the troops: I need you guys to start kickin' and takin' names.The first thing you need is these here pointy shoes and the clipboard is to assist you in the second part.


I was always told never to wear regular shoes on the court but "heels". :rolleyes:
 
It may have seemed improbable in October but I believe Kia has emerged as UConn's leading aspirant for All-America accolades this season. She's a dependable scorer, an excellent 3-point shooter, a superb defender, a strong leader and a tough and indefatigable competitor.

Thank you for taking the words out of my mouth, or, rather, off my keyboard!
I'd only add that, even when she's not having a great game stat-wise, she's still holding the team together.
 
Kia was always going to be an important part of UConn's team: she got major minutes from her very first games. A very tough-nosed defender, that's always a great basis for a good relationship with the Coach.

But we all saw her struggles, especially on offense. Couldn't hit her jumper consistently; insisted on a Euro-step drive that got her to the basket, but way too often blew the lay-up. Eventually, after a terrible offensive game in (I think) Feb. of her sophomore year, she had a public crying jag, for which Geno called her out. We might say that that moment turned her around.

Still, her Olympic summer was far more down than up. One sensational game, but otherwise a lot of forced and ill-advised shots. Unfair for her to have to carry such expectations against mostly professionals on other teams, but there it is.

This year, she's got tremendous confidence in her outside shot and, giving up on the Euro-step power drive, she almost never misses a lay-up.

But, what struck me most was a play today against Temple early in the 3rd, when she went coast-to-coast, and, after making the shot, backpedaled up court to guard against a fast break. Just perfect. But more than perfect, it is her overall body strength that is really working for her now. Kia came to UConn fit, but after 3 years of weight training and aerobics her body is uber-fit and really helps her mental game.

The beauty of WCBB is that almost all of them stay 4 years, and we can watch the developmental arc--both mental and physical--of a confused and scared kid who is just months out of high school to a confident young adult who is months away from playing professional ball.

There is a bunch of UConn freshman and sophomores who will go through this same developmental arc. Stay tuned....and be patient.

Thank you, Fellow Citizen! Not enough good can be said of Kia. And to see it said is, like watching Kia play, a pleasure.
 
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My response likely won't be very popular here.
Kia is a truly wonderful college player who puts in and gets out everything that is possible out of her abilities. She is as hard nosed a player as there is in WCB. She plays relentless defense and is now a very good shooter. She's very bright, well spoken and focused.
In terms of first team AA or a really good WNBA player I don't see it. I don't think she has the quickness and innate athletic ability to be a top notch pro player. From all I've seen she isn't able to create her own shot.
I'm sorry but while I don't know what this team would do without her, many here might be getting a tad carried away.
Bronx23
I love Kia and agree with pretty much everything you say, with some qualifications.

First team AA? Who knows? But so what? At best, that would mean there are 5 other players in Div. I (1 or more of whom may be on UConn) who are a better basketball player in all of WCBB. More likely, it means there are two (and only two) who are "better" guards. I can live with that.

Second, much depends on what one means by a "really good WNBA player". Even if one does not rise to that level (and this is giving the characterization every benefit of the doubt), it does not follow that one is not, minimally, a "good" WNBA player--capable of providing serviceable performance at a professional level, and (as I would suspect from Kia) the ability to do so for a number of years. I think Kia is every bit as likely to fulfill those requirements as any guard coming out WCBB at this time. As noted, Kia is smart--including smart enough to know her limitations. True, she may not "create her own shot". But she knows how to find the shot she can make. And she may be one of the best players in the country at getting to the free throw line. Aside from that, she provides (as you properly noted) many of the other dimensions to an all-around excellent basketball player. Her grit and competitiveness will always serve her, including on the professional level.

There are professional exemplars of the game, not noted for their athleticism, ability to create, scoring acumen, and so on. I'd say Kia would comfortably fit among them.
 
Kia was always going to be an important part of UConn's team: she got major minutes from her very first games. A very tough-nosed defender, that's always a great basis for a good relationship with the Coach.

But we all saw her struggles, especially on offense. Couldn't hit her jumper consistently; insisted on a Euro-step drive that got her to the basket, but way too often blew the lay-up. Eventually, after a terrible offensive game in (I think) Feb. of her sophomore year, she had a public crying jag, for which Geno called her out. We might say that that moment turned her around.

Still, her Olympic summer was far more down than up. One sensational game, but otherwise a lot of forced and ill-advised shots. Unfair for her to have to carry such expectations against mostly professionals on other teams, but there it is.

This year, she's got tremendous confidence in her outside shot and, giving up on the Euro-step power drive, she almost never misses a lay-up.

But, what struck me most was a play today against Temple early in the 3rd, when she went coast-to-coast, and, after making the shot, backpedaled up court to guard against a fast break. Just perfect. But more than perfect, it is her overall body strength that is really working for her now. Kia came to UConn fit, but after 3 years of weight training and aerobics her body is uber-fit and really helps her mental game.

The beauty of WCBB is that almost all of them stay 4 years, and we can watch the developmental arc--both mental and physical--of a confused and scared kid who is just months out of high school to a confident young adult who is months away from playing professional ball.

There is a bunch of UConn freshman and sophomores who will go through this same developmental arc. Stay tuned....and be patient.

Son of a gun---I though KIA was 6 ft 1 inch when she arrived---I hope she hits 6'4 Uconn needs that NOW.
It would appear if a kid can make it a year or two they usually stay the rest--the balance scale tilts towards many more opting 4 than those opting less than 1.
Kia arrived motivate to improve her physical fitness among other things--I suggest Gabby (look at those arms and shoulders, woW) and the new kid--Dangerous--and glamorous Dangerfield--her arms and upper torso any body builder would sell their Mercedes for. Can't stop there--KLS too.
Working to build the right muscles and body strength is much easier when friends join in the fun..
If you note (as you have) the Frosh/Sophs are not devoid of using the weight room--you can see the increases since June.
That Canadian woman as a leader and with world game experience for 6 years or so--is an essential piece for any run for the gold. Not one thing about KiA I don't love--she's special..
 
I love Kia and agree with pretty much everything you say, with some qualifications.

First team AA? Who knows? But so what? At best, that would mean there are 5 other players in Div. I (1 or more of whom may be on UConn) who are a better basketball player in all of WCBB. More likely, it means there are two (and only two) who are "better" guards. I can live with that.

Second, much depends on what one means by a "really good WNBA player". Even if one does not rise to that level (and this is giving the characterization every benefit of the doubt), it does not follow that one is not, minimally, a "good" WNBA player--capable of providing serviceable performance at a professional level, and (as I would suspect from Kia) the ability to do so for a number of years. I think Kia is every bit as likely to fulfill those requirements as any guard coming out WCBB at this time. As noted, Kia is smart--including smart enough to know her limitations. True, she may not "create her own shot". But she knows how to find the shot she can make. And she may be one of the best players in the country at getting to the free throw line. Aside from that, she provides (as you properly noted) many of the other dimensions to an all-around excellent basketball player. Her grit and competitiveness will always serve her, including on the professional level.

There are professional exemplars of the game, not noted for their athleticism, ability to create, scoring acumen, and so on. I'd say Kia would comfortably fit among them.

I don't know whether to love your posting on not!! It appears you deliver with one hand and take with the other.
My take on KIA ---is much of what you say on toughness. Then I'd add she has years and years of international experience with Women when she was a girl. She is tough. She is intelligent. She knows the game. Geno has prepared ALL of his top player to play in the WNBA. Will she be a Stewie? Or Moriah or Sue Bird, DT ?? I couldn't tell you right now--give me a year to look. Your last 3 lines are especially true. But KIA has created her OWN shot any number of times most importantly when her Canadian Team beat the Stewie/Moriah USA team--she created her own shot for something like 33 points, not all 3 balls. She too took her Canadian team further the last time out than any would expect--on her scoring abilities.
KIA is a special BB player but more importantly a special person--don't tell me or her what she can or cannot do--I see no limitations. I'm KIA blind.
 
C.D. to the troops: I need you guys to start kickin' and takin' names.The first thing you need is these here pointy shoes and the clipboard is to assist you in the second part.

Cowboy boots (especially ones with sharp pointed toes w/ metal tips) = pointy shoes. My father use to call cowboy boots "ass kicking" shoes. :rolleyes:
 
Kia was always going to be an important part of UConn's team: she got major minutes from her very first games. A very tough-nosed defender, that's always a great basis for a good relationship with the Coach.

But we all saw her struggles, especially on offense. Couldn't hit her jumper consistently; insisted on a Euro-step drive that got her to the basket, but way too often blew the lay-up. Eventually, after a terrible offensive game in (I think) Feb. of her sophomore year, she had a public crying jag, for which Geno called her out. We might say that that moment turned her around.

Still, her Olympic summer was far more down than up. One sensational game, but otherwise a lot of forced and ill-advised shots. Unfair for her to have to carry such expectations against mostly professionals on other teams, but there it is.

This year, she's got tremendous confidence in her outside shot and, giving up on the Euro-step power drive, she almost never misses a lay-up.

But, what struck me most was a play today against Temple early in the 3rd, when she went coast-to-coast, and, after making the shot, backpedaled up court to guard against a fast break. Just perfect. But more than perfect, it is her overall body strength that is really working for her now. Kia came to UConn fit, but after 3 years of weight training and aerobics her body is uber-fit and really helps her mental game.

The beauty of WCBB is that almost all of them stay 4 years, and we can watch the developmental arc--both mental and physical--of a confused and scared kid who is just months out of high school to a confident young adult who is months away from playing professional ball.

There is a bunch of UConn freshman and sophomores who will go through this same developmental arc. Stay tuned....and be patient.

In a word.................Kia has matured. :cool:
 
I agree to a large degree with Connie's comments and somewhat with Broadwayva.
I do believe Kia will be a good solid WNBA player because of the balance of her skill set, personality, drive and so many other things she brings to her team and the game.
While she may truly we'll be the glue to this very talented, capable team, she may also be the fifth or sixth best player on this team.
I believe one needs to strongly root and care for their teams players especially a superb leader like Kia, but also need to truly see the players and the team clearly.
Bronx23
 
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