How is the NCAA settlement going to affect non-P4 leagues long term?

[speckle]

I'm still looking forward to the day someone has to reconcile the taxability of scholarships in the pay for play scenario. Here's your check for $X, and here's your bill for $2X. Thanks for playing, LOL!

 

[Tiamat7]

UConn football did well in the portal particularly at positions of need. This season may surprise people.

I hope you're right.

 

[Fishy]

UConn did very well in the portal - played the NIL game extremely well.

The new rules, at least in terms of football, will be hard to manage. The potential new subdivision is a concern across the board as is tying revenue sharing to revenue.

If, say, Syracuse or Rutgers is returning $20M a year to revenue athletes, are we permitted to do the same? If so....where's the money coming from?

 

[UCann]

As a Sate school we are fine. $22M is nothing in the grand scheme and I hope we spend up to the max. The Sate’s budget is like $22 Billion per year, the $22M would be 0.1% of the budget assuming the State funded it all which it wouldn’t have to do. We know how important UConn sports are to the Sate. The Governor and others have said so publicly. There will be no issue getting public and government support for this if needed in my opinion. As for the other Big East Schools, well they will be in trouble because there’s no way they can keep up with us. Another reason I think long-term we’re just not a fit for the conference.

 

[champs99and04]

If, say, Syracuse or Rutgers is returning $20M a year to revenue athletes, are we permitted to do the same? If so....where's the money coming from?

My guess is that the Big Ten and SEC will agree to share a small percentage of their revenue with the other "power" leagues as a (obviously insincere) showing of good faith. An even smaller percentage of that will then likely trickle down to the G5 leagues, who will remain compensating their players the old-fashioned way.

Everything points towards an attempt to recreate the NFL. One league will become the de facto AFC, and the other the NFC. Even the network agreements - with ESPN locking in the SEC and FOX cornering the Big Ten - are mimicking those trendlines. It will be considered the new highest level of college football, with whatever concoction of ACC/Big 12 schools being considered tier two, and everyone else slotting in beneath that. All the P2 schools will spend roughly the same in the name of achieving parity. Players will be allowed to transfer up or down a level without sitting a year, but not within levels. They might invite a couple schools from the lower leagues to the playoff to preserve the pretense of tradition, but we all know how that will go.

The big winners will be schools like Rutgers, who suddenly find themselves on semi-equal footing with schools like Alabama and Ohio State. As for UConn, not much will change. We'll still be here debating whether to continue subsidizing the program in hopes of one day getting the call to the big leagues, or just close shop altogether. Syracuse will probably be in the same boat.

 

[UConnSwag11]

Eventually college sports will go away and there will be academy’s like the rest of the world. Pro sports will begin to have relegation as well

 

[dennismenace]

MSN

In major change, college athletes set to be paid directly by schools​

 

[Tenspro2002]

long term? big east teams will be playing heated basketball games on sunday afternoon after church service lets out in gyms that hold a couple hundred people. just as the good lord intended.

Man, that is some level of commitment to the bit for a Cincy guy to be trolling us about conference affilation when we're coming off back to back championships

You can't still be bitter from when we beat you in the 2nd round in 2011 (a game I barely remember), right? You did make the Sweet 16 the year after (for the only time in like 25 years), which should numb the pain.

 

[superjohn]

My guess is that the Big Ten and SEC will agree to share a small percentage of their revenue with the other "power" leagues as a (obviously insincere) showing of good faith. An even smaller percentage of that will then likely trickle down to the G5 leagues, who will remain compensating their players the old-fashioned way.

Everything points towards an attempt to recreate the NFL. One league will become the de facto AFC, and the other the NFC. Even the network agreements - with ESPN locking in the SEC and FOX cornering the Big Ten - are mimicking those trendlines. It will be considered the new highest level of college football, with whatever concoction of ACC/Big 12 schools being considered tier two, and everyone else slotting in beneath that. All the P2 schools will spend roughly the same in the name of achieving parity. Players will be allowed to transfer up or down a level without sitting a year, but not within levels. They might invite a couple schools from the lower leagues to the playoff to preserve the pretense of tradition, but we all know how that will go.

The big winners will be schools like Rutgers, who suddenly find themselves on semi-equal footing with schools like Alabama and Ohio State. As for UConn, not much will change. We'll still be here debating whether to continue subsidizing the program in hopes of one day getting the call to the big leagues, or just close shop altogether. Syracuse will probably be in the same boat.

Rutgers will continue to be the Washington Generals.

 

[Fishy]

My guess is that the Big Ten and SEC will agree to share a small percentage of their revenue with the other "power" leagues as a (obviously insincere) showing of good faith. An even smaller percentage of that will then likely trickle down to the G5 leagues, who will remain compensating their players the old-fashioned way.

Everything points towards an attempt to recreate the NFL. One league will become the de facto AFC, and the other the NFC. Even the network agreements - with ESPN locking in the SEC and FOX cornering the Big Ten - are mimicking those trendlines. It will be considered the new highest level of college football, with whatever concoction of ACC/Big 12 schools being considered tier two, and everyone else slotting in beneath that. All the P2 schools will spend roughly the same in the name of achieving parity. Players will be allowed to transfer up or down a level without sitting a year, but not within levels. They might invite a couple schools from the lower leagues to the playoff to preserve the pretense of tradition, but we all know how that will go.

The big winners will be schools like Rutgers, who suddenly find themselves on semi-equal footing with schools like Alabama and Ohio State. As for UConn, not much will change. We'll still be here debating whether to continue subsidizing the program in hopes of one day getting the call to the big leagues, or just close shop altogether. Syracuse will probably be in the same boat.

You’re kidding, right?

You think those leagues are going to share revenue?

 

[champs99and04]

You’re kidding, right?

You think those leagues are going to share revenue?

At first, yes. It's important for them to string the process out, because too much change, too fast, is risky for any business, particularly one rooted in tradition & nostalgia. This is from the same playbook that they used to phase out amateurism - instead of going directly from amateurism to pay for play, they invited us to a few years of the NIL circus that was never intended to be a long-term solution.

Same concept here. They know the photo op with other league commissioners will be important to mitigate the backlash when they introduce the new changes. You accomplish that by buying them out for a short time while making it impossible for them to compete behind the curtains. In ten years when they stop sharing revenue altogether and 60 FBS teams have to scrap their programs, it will seem like the whole thing was organic.

 

[Fishy]

At first, yes. It's important for them to string the process out, because too much change, too fast, is risky for any business, particularly one rooted in tradition & nostalgia. This is from the same playbook that they used to phase out amateurism - instead of going directly from amateurism to pay for play, they invited us to a few years of the NIL circus that was never intended to be a long-term solution.

Same concept here. They know the photo op with other league commissioners will be important to mitigate the backlash when they introduce the new changes. You accomplish that by buying them out for a short time while making it impossible for them to compete behind the curtains. In ten years when they stop sharing revenue altogether and 60 FBS teams have to scrap their programs, it will seem like the whole thing was organic.

There’s absolutely no chance. None.

 

[huskymedic]

They had to write suttin’

 

[ec33]

I saw some "reporting" that scholarships limitations may be a thing of the past.

However, that may just be more of the current de factor elimination of scholarship limitations allowed by simply giving that money via NIL.

 

[sledog]

Interesting Q: If getting paid, then are $ schollies gone? How many bennies do u bestow before a student uprising begins?

 

[HooperScooper]

Interesting article from Matt Norlander. I'm trying to understand this but it's such a drastic change for college athletics that I'm still trying to grasp how this is going to work.

Historic House case settlement has college basketball -- not college football -- to thank for saving the NCAA

The NCAA Tournament is the only reason we're here, and ironically enough, college basketball's landscape will still take a huge hit despite saving the day

www.cbssports.com

 

[HooperScooper]

Interesting article from Matt Norlander. I'm trying to understand this but it's such a drastic change for college athletics that I'm still trying to grasp how this is going to work.

Historic House case settlement has college basketball -- not college football -- to thank for saving the NCAA

The NCAA Tournament is the only reason we're here, and ironically enough, college basketball's landscape will still take a huge hit despite saving the day

www.cbssports.com

O.K. I'm not the only one.

But even for an industry veteran like Jacquette, the news of the NCAA’s staggering settlement in a class-action antitrust lawsuit Thursday came as a surprise, with more than a little anxiety. The first words that came to mind, he said, were “trepidation” and “confusion.”

And he was not alone in feeling unsettled. Interviews, statements and social media posts mere hours after the settlement was announced showed that many were uncertain and concerned about what the future of collegiate sports holds.

NCAA athletes’ pay deal raises questions about future of college sports

The NCAA athletes’ pay deal raises questions about the future of college sports. "These are unprecedented times." Read more on Boston.com.

www.boston.com

 

[huskymedic]

Assisted access

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Because they need to keep up appearaces that they are spending. UConn could drop $20 million from the AD tomorrow. They don’t want to because they want to have the largest G5 budget. That shows commitment the next time the P4 comes calling.

The only way UConn could cut $20 million is by Dropping football completely plus 3-4 women’s sports . Because you have 75 scholarships for FBS football title 9 requires an equal number of women’s all of which lose money . You understand the fallout from dropping 150 scholarships would be interesting.

 

[upstater]

Some schools are saying, NOT SO FAST...

NCAA House Settlement Delayed by ‘Infighting,’ Per Plaintiffs’ Lawyer

Plaintiffs' lawyer Jeffrey Kessler says the defendants have been "extraordinarily slow" in hashing out the final details to the long-form settlement.

www.sportico.com

Jay Bilas is blasting the little poor schools for holding things up.

Having read the arguments of the minnows, I'd say they are pretty good. Why did Kessler single out the Power 5 in the lawsuit if he had any intention of getting money from the minnows?

If the judge agrees with some schools being allowed to opt out of the Class Action, then the floodgates open, and many more schools can do that as well.

I hope that happens. Im not saying it will. But it would deal a blow to the uneven use of the basketball monies that exists right now.

Honestly, the best thing for all schools right now would be for the NCAA to cease to exist. Let the Power (4) pay whoever they need to pay. Leave everyone else alone.

 

[shizzle787]

Some schools are saying, NOT SO FAST...

NCAA House Settlement Delayed by ‘Infighting,’ Per Plaintiffs’ Lawyer

Plaintiffs' lawyer Jeffrey Kessler says the defendants have been "extraordinarily slow" in hashing out the final details to the long-form settlement.

www.sportico.com

Jay Bilas is blasting the little poor schools for holding things up.

Having read the arguments of the minnows, I'd say they are pretty good. Why did Kessler single out the Power 5 in the lawsuit if he had any intention of getting money from the minnows?

If the judge agrees with some schools being allowed to opt out of the Class Action, then the floodgates open, and many more schools can do that as well.

I hope that happens. Im not saying it will. But it would deal a blow to the uneven use of the basketball monies that exists right now.

Honestly, the best thing for all schools right now would be for the NCAA to cease to exist. Let the Power (4) pay whoever they need to pay. Leave everyone else alone.

That would be the end of UConn as an elite program and school. As they say, be careful what you wish for.

 

[upstater]

That would be the end of UConn as an elite program and school. As they say, be careful what you wish for.

'Splain...

 

[shizzle787]

'Splain...

If we are not in the top tier league for at least basketball, the state will lose interest. CT routes for 1st division teams only. Perfect example is UConn football. Lost the BCS branding, and the crowds disappeared.

 

[upstater]

If we are not in the top tier league for at least basketball, the state will lose interest. CT routes for 1st division teams only. Perfect example is UConn football. Lost the BCS branding, and the crowds disappeared.

If they are going to hold a 32 team tournament without UConn, Villanova, Gonzaga and several others, it's not going to be worth a warm bucket of spit.

But whether they do this or not, it really doesn't matter whether the NCAA is paying or not paying former athletes. Or if the NCAA even exists.

If they don't want UConn, Villanova or Gonzaga, they are going to exclude them anyway, and this lawsuit will have absolutely no impact on that decision.

But I do think they would lose an antitrust suit if they try to exclude the most successful college basketball school in modern history.

 

[freescooter]

Some schools are saying, NOT SO FAST...

NCAA House Settlement Delayed by ‘Infighting,’ Per Plaintiffs’ Lawyer

Plaintiffs' lawyer Jeffrey Kessler says the defendants have been "extraordinarily slow" in hashing out the final details to the long-form settlement.

www.sportico.com

Jay Bilas is blasting the little poor schools for holding things up.

Having read the arguments of the minnows, I'd say they are pretty good. Why did Kessler single out the Power 5 in the lawsuit if he had any intention of getting money from the minnows?

If the judge agrees with some schools being allowed to opt out of the Class Action, then the floodgates open, and many more schools can do that as well.

I hope that happens. Im not saying it will. But it would deal a blow to the uneven use of the basketball monies that exists right now.

Honestly, the best thing for all schools right now would be for the NCAA to cease to exist. Let the Power (4) pay whoever they need to pay. Leave everyone else alone.

Bilas is nothing more than a shill for the power conferences. Always has been. Want to know his position? Just read the P2 talking points. He would much prefer an NCAA tournament without any of these pesky low major champs. He’s Sankey in a 3 piece suit. If there is ever a real split from the NCAA, I’d expect him to be a candidate for commissioner of the BIG 10-SEC Challenge tournament, though only if it includes Duke, too.