How does the timing of the investigation affect KO’s status

[CardiffGiant]

Knowing how long NCAA investigations take, there is a possibility that the investigation is not completed soon. If UConn wanted to use the “for cause” language to void the contract, doesn’t the investigation have to be completed with findings? It is probably not enough to have allegations of recruiting violations as the basis for letting KO go for cause. The timing could be tricky in that if the AD wants to let him go at the end of the season, he may need to wait longer to see if there have been violations. Obviously, no one really knows how serious these potential recruiting violations are at this stage, and we can hope there are no violations, but if nothing else, doesn’t this change the timing of decisions regarding KO?

 

[JMick]

Pitino got fired for cause and the NCAA didn't even know about the allegations. If you don't mind a court battle you can try to use the "cause" clause

It's moot though since we don't know exactly what's being investigated

 

[CTBballfan243]

Hopefully KO will be UConn’s head coach for many years to come, and this is just a minor inconvenience.

 

[Glastonhusky]

Pitino got fired for cause and the NCAA didn't even know about the allegations. If you don't mind a court battle you can try to use the "cause" clause

It's moot though since we don't know exactly what's being investigated

Is that what we really want? A court battle with a member of the UConn 'family', who brought us a championship just 4 year ago? That's probably the only thing that could make the situation worse. but as you say, we don't know what's being investigated yet , hopefully it's nothing.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Cheating to assemble a roster of mid-major transfers and unranked projects would be a fitting capstone for the last couple years of UConn basketball.

 

[shizzle787]

Cheating to assemble a roster of mid-major transfers and unranked projects would be a fitting capstone for the last couple years of UConn basketball.

LOL.

 

[JMick]

Cheating to assemble a roster of mid-major transfers and unranked projects would be a fitting capstone for the last couple years of UConn basketball.

I'm not sure what would be worse. Cheating and still losing the recruit or cheating for the guys we currently have on the roster.

 

[intlzncster]

I'm not sure what would be worse. Cheating and still losing the recruit or cheating for the guys we currently have on the roster.

Both.

Add in cheating, getting the guy, and then having him transfer.

 

[Fishy]

Ollie really is putting together one of the most complete resumes imaginable.

Championship, AAC tournament title, near-complete ruination of a basketball power and now potentially an NCAA case.

Guy is checking off every box he sees.

 

[RipCity]

If you think KO is coming back you’re being naive. Benedict committed to ditching Ollie the second the Courant got their story the other day. He’s gone.

 

[gtcam]

If you think KO is coming back you’re being naive. Benedict committed to ditching Ollie the second the Courant got their story the other day. He’s gone.

The Courant got their story from a disgruntled idiot named Jacobs who may be just grabbing at straws
Is that what Benedict said in the Athletic Dept management meeting you attended on Friday?
If KO is not here next year that's fine but he doesn't need to be pushed out the door by the disgruntled who claim to know all this insider crap

 

[JMick]

The Courant got their story from a disgruntled idiot named Jacobs who may be just grabbing at straws

you don't comprehend anything at all, do you? you think Jacobs just made it up and we're not actually being investigated by the NCAA?

 

[RipCity]

The Courant got their story from a disgruntled idiot named Jacobs who may be just grabbing at straws
Is that what Benedict said in the Athletic Dept management meeting you attended on Friday?
If KO is not here next year that's fine but he doesn't need to be pushed out the door by the disgruntled who claim to know all this insider crap

I’m not taking a stance, I’m just stating what’s extremely highly probable. Ollie is done after this year. Pout about it all you want.

And if you don’t think Jacobs was reporting the truth then you’re just delusional.

 

[auror]

The Courant got their story from a disgruntled idiot named Jacobs who may be just grabbing at straws

UConn confirmed there was an investigation. It's certainly not grasping at straws. There's fire, we just don't know if it's a campfire or a bonfire.

 

[JellyBean]

Cheating to assemble a roster of mid-major transfers and unranked projects would be a fitting capstone for the last couple years of UConn basketball.

If we are cheating to get 2-3 star players, we get what we deserve from the NCAA. If we are cheating, which I doubt that we are, at least cheat to land a 5 star stud with some game.

 

[CardiffGiant]

If you think KO is coming back you’re being naive. Benedict committed to ditching Ollie the second the Courant got their story the other day. He’s gone.

Not sure about when though. If waiting gets them out from under 9mil, it might not be until the investigation is concluded. The contract says:


“The phrase ‘just cause’ shall include, in addition to the definition contained in the Collective Bargaining Agreement: 1.) a violation by the Coach of any law, rule, regulation, policy, bylaw, or official interpretation of the University, the Conference or the NCAA; 2.) a violation by a member of the basketball coaching staff, or any other person under the coach’s supervision and direction, including student-athletes in the basketball program that the coach knew as a violation, and takes no steps to address, correct and report the violation within a reasonable period of time which under no circumstance shall be longer than 10 business days.”

 

[Danzz]

Pitino got fired for cause and the NCAA didn't even know about the allegations. If you don't mind a court battle you can try to use the "cause" clause

It's moot though since we don't know exactly what's being investigated

Tonight one of the announcers said that the investigation involves the recruiting of 3 players. My guess is Diallo is one but nobody really knows.

 

[Hi-Low]

Is it too late to self-impose post-season ban and have it taken seriously? I imagine the NCAA would just laugh after tonight.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Pitino got fired for cause and the NCAA didn't even know about the allegations. If you don't mind a court battle you can try to use the "cause" clause

It's moot though since we don't know exactly what's being investigated

Yes, as we have no clue as to what KO (or any other UConn employee) is being investigated for that is moot.

Additionally, Pitino was fired upon UL (and basically the rest of the world) finding out one of his subordinates was being charged after an extensive FBI investigation. This was after one of his subordinates took the fall for hiring strippers (who also provided sexual favors) to entertain recruits, which was after Pitino admitted to an indiscretion with the wife of a subordinate (dribbled a little down his leg). The admission came during the investigation of her attempt to extort him.

 

[Goat]

The news on January 28th 2012 was that the NCAA suspended Ryan Boatright 6 games for an AAU plane ride for his mom and that he had been out 3 more games because someone gave her money for Christmas gifts. Meanwhile, Yancy Gates was given six games for fighting.

It would be a good idea to wait and find out what the charges are this time.

 

[Jimdish255]

If KO is replaced for performance or actual cause that's one thing. But smearing him on the way out the door to try to save money would be a huge mistake in terms of future hires and just respect. We don't want to go down that road.

 

[Sea Goat]

UConn confirmed there was an investigation. It's certainly not grasping at straws. There's fire, we just don't know if it's a campfire or a bonfire.

Capfire or bonfire? No, we had a hell of a dumpster fire going and it spread...

 

[The Viking]

If we receive sanctions of some sort, does the School even bother appealing, further delaying the inevitable?
Or do they just accept the findings as is barring a massive penalty and begin making changes ASAP?

 

[Chin Diesel]

Ollie really is putting together one of the most complete resumes imaginable.

Championship, AAC tournament title, near-complete ruination of a basketball power and now potentially an NCAA case.

Guy is checking off every box he sees.

I once had a job where everyone was there for 3-4 years. We had a running joke of everyone does one of four things while doing the job. 1. Get married, 2. buy a truck, 3. have a kid, 4. get divorced. Accomplish all 4 within that time and it was called a grand slam. Ollie is on a similar path of greatness.

 

[UConnNick]

If KO is replaced for performance or actual cause that's one thing. But smearing him on the way out the door to try to save money would be a huge mistake in terms of future hires and just respect. We don't want to go down that road.

Agreed, but smearing him is one thing. NCAA violations are a different can of worms. If he is found to have committed NCAA recruiting transgressions, you aren't smearing him. Those would be his responsibility to answer for.

Tbe OP brings up a valid and very important question. NCAA investigations typically take years, not months, and nobody at NCAA HQ is going to speed ours up just because we want to fire a coach without having to pay his buyout. If you assume the school decides to fire him at the end of this season, it's likely the investigation isn't going to be over by then. If you wait until it's over, you could be waiting another season or even two until you know the results. Obviously the school can't keep waiting to make the call if committed to firing him. You either pay the buyout or you end up in limbo for some indeterminable period of time while he's still your coach.