Home boiler cost

[XLCenterFan]

What should I be spending to have an old boiler replaced and new one installed? I already have a separate hot water heater, and my house is under 2000 square feet. I had a guy come out yesterday and quoted me on putting in a Bosch (top of the line) for about $12,000. Does this sound right? Asking for 10% down and then can finance the rest for only 1%, drawn out up to 12 years.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Had gas on my street. Mass law is that if gas is on your street the utility is required to cover all costs to run gas to the home if you want to switch from oil.

It's not on our street, but a major gas line is adjacent to it. Next house needs to have gas.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

try this.
supplyhouse.com sells stuff, like metal boxes that make a little fire from oil or gas, and that fire heats a small tank of water, which is then pumped to one or two pipes that carry it thruout a crib, then return it.
like these:
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Boilers-449000
they have a telephone number, 888-757-4774 i think, where you can call and say 'hey! i see u got some kind of program called 'trademasters' which sounds like local installers that u are hooked up with. who are the ones near me?'
if that don't work, there'll only be another pantload of similar national supply businesses that will have contacts for local installers. and then there is the, seemingly in every town, local supply houses that have pals to rec for an estimate.


now, i have to go and lie down to contemplate the phrase 'ceiling radiant heat' cuz apparently, physics has been ended and heat no longer rises, and cold no longer falls.
nuthin funnier than going into a commercial building and noticing the vents are located in the ceiling, typically for hot air heat, and a/c. well, they got it half right. unreal. makes me want to find the owner, and sell them meteor insurance, or doggie footwear.

the king of heat is radiant floor heating, but u really have to be a sharp cookie to find a reasonable price cuz that stuff can be very expensive, and many 'pros' just make up numbers, and long speeches.
pursuit of warm tootsies can make folks irrational, cuz it's just
sooooooo good.

 

[Conndog]

now, i have to go and lie down to contemplate the phrase 'ceiling radiant heat' cuz apparently, physics has been ended and heat no longer rises, and cold no longer falls.

I know it seems counter-intuitive, but if I understand it properly, it’s radiant energy from the heated water that heats the air above the floor, and then heated air rises. With heated water in ceiling pipes (the same ribbon like network used in floors), the radiant energy radiants downward and heats objects below. Insulation above the ceiling pipe network keeps the radiant energy reflected downward. The ceiling lets the heat energy conduct through it. At least, that is my understanding of it.

 

[bfs3]

try this.
supplyhouse.com sells stuff, like metal boxes that make a little fire from oil or gas, and that fire heats a small tank of water, which is then pumped to one or two pipes that carry it thruout a crib, then return it.
like these:
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Boilers-449000
they have a telephone number, 888-757-4774 i think, where you can call and say 'hey! i see u got some kind of program called 'trademasters' which sounds like local installers that u are hooked up with. who are the ones near me?'
if that don't work, there'll only be another pantload of similar national supply businesses that will have contacts for local installers. and then there is the, seemingly in every town, local supply houses that have pals to rec for an estimate.


now, i have to go and lie down to contemplate the phrase 'ceiling radiant heat' cuz apparently, physics has been ended and heat no longer rises, and cold no longer falls.
nuthin funnier than going into a commercial building and noticing the vents are located in the ceiling, typically for hot air heat, and a/c. well, they got it half right. unreal. makes me want to find the owner, and sell them meteor insurance, or doggie footwear.

the king of heat is radiant floor heating, but u really have to be a sharp cookie to find a reasonable price cuz that stuff can be very expensive, and many 'pros' just make up numbers, and long speeches.
pursuit of warm tootsies can make folks irrational, cuz it's just
sooooooo good.

Yeah follow this guys advice lol.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

Yeah follow this guys advice lol.

can't seem to find where i mentioned u.

u seem mad.
or, mebbe better, u seem like a salesperson. iffn u are, can i get an estimate for a 'ceiling radiant heat' system?

 

[ClifSpliffy]

price irrelevant? the King!
'Warmboard has become one of the most sought after radiant heating systems on the market, providing superior performance, substantial energy savings and unrivaled comfort.'

tru dat.
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not really 'high tech' in the truest sense of the phrase - ya just run a spaghetti pipe matrix underneath the floor, filled with hot fluid, but lots of folks, cough, cough, 'pros,' can screw up low tech too.

many are amazed when the thermo for this system can be set at 60 and u feel toasty warm, while an old school system set at 70 can sometimes make u feel chilly, especially iffn u aren't feeling so hot to begin with.
they should put this system in every hospital and senior home.
capitally expensive, operationally cheap. efficient with a capital E.
i like operationally cheap. long run, an all that.

 

[bfs3]

price irrelevant? the King!
'Warmboard has become one of the most sought after radiant heating systems on the market, providing superior performance, substantial energy savings and unrivaled comfort.'

tru dat.
About Us
not really 'high tech' in the truest sense of the phrase - ya just run a spaghetti pipe matrix underneath the floor, filled with hot fluid, but lots of folks, cough, cough, 'pros,' can screw up low tech too.

many are amazed when the thermo for this system can be set at 60 and u feel toasty warm, while an old school system set at 70 can sometimes make u feel chilly, especially iffn u aren't feeling so hot to begin with.
they should put this system in every hospital and senior home.
capitally expensive, operationally cheap. efficient with a capital E.
i like operationally cheap. long run, an all that.

Not the least bit mad. I actually went over that in a previous post. Every condo in Heritage Village was actually made with Radiant Heat in the ceiling. I wouldn’t sell it or install it even if a customer demanded it. Why would you prefer it be installed in your ceiling?

You wouldn’t run hot water radiant heat in your ceiling either. It would have to be electric (you would likely need to hire an electrician). If you ran hot water in your ceiling you’re risking quite a mess if anyone ever shuts that zone off in the winter or if you have a power outage. Radiant heat makes you feel most comfortable for a number of reasons but you’re right it is very comfortable. My experience with senior living facilities is that they typically turn the temperature to 80 degrees and it usually requires an oversized system to deliver that temperature.

 

[bfs3]

I know it seems counter-intuitive, but if I understand it properly, it’s radiant energy from the heated water that heats the air above the floor, and then heated air rises. With heated water in ceiling pipes (the same ribbon like network used in floors), the radiant energy radiants downward and heats objects below. Insulation above the ceiling pipe network keeps the radiant energy reflected downward. The ceiling lets the heat energy conduct through it. At least, that is my understanding of it.

You’re close but that’s not how it heats the people or the objects in the room. Radiant Heat Transfer doesn’t focus or rely on heating the air. That would be convection heating. Instead radiant heat transfers the energy through electromagnetic radiation. This is how the Sun transfers heat to the Earth through the vacuum of space. The cooler objects absorb the heat and those objects along with the radiant floor gradually raises the air temperature. This is why you are more comfortable with radiant heat compared to the air temperature. Your body and the objects around you will absorb the energy and warm before the air temperature in the catches up. Thus comfort is satisfied at a lower thermostat temperature.

Electric radiant heat, which is what you would normally find in a ceiling is actually quite expensive. There are some other products that I’m not too familiar with such as radiant roof panels. In my experience it works best in the floor. Also, the temperature below the thermostat will still be cooler than the rest of the room. This makes sitting down in that room feel drafty due to the chill.

 

[outsidethebox]

Just had viessmann 105 btu vr1-105 oil boiler with 42 gallon indirect water heater and new oil tank installed by local plumber for 10700 dollars. 2500 sq. ft. house. Shopped around all summer. Lots of crazy prices out there. South Windsor area