Holdsclaw case settled

[Ozzie Nelson]

If she has already been diagnosed with depression and fails to take prescribed meds, any type of pattern of doing so will defeat the depression defense. And while we are asking, if she's already been diagnosed as a nut without her meds, how is it that she has a concealed carry permit? Maybe we should pass a law about that -- oh geez, we already have about 100 times. Need to enforce it.

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[vtcwbuff]

Why is everyone assuming that her behavior(s) were directly related to depression. Maybe Holdsclaw simply got into a tiff with her GF and she went ballistic. It happens all the time.

 

[meyers7]

Your labeling those dealing with issues of mental health as "nuts" is offensive.

OMG, don't be so easily offended.

 

[Icebear]

OMG, don't be so easily offended.

Sorry, but life is hard enough for people dealing with severe mental health issues they don't need folks adding ridicule without understanding.

 

[cferraro04]

First, from reading the article, this was a plea deal. A lot of stuff going to be on her record, and the 3 years probation and other conditions are nothing to sneeze at. By which I mean, either she straightens up or she is going to be spending some jail time for violating her probation.

That the prosecution settled for a plea deal could (I suppose) be due to her fame, or could be due to the anticipated difficulties raised by her mental state that might have come up in trial. For her attorney, I assume the up side was this was the only way to ensure she didn't go to jail, as a jury conviction would almost have certainly resulted in jail time.

I do feel sorry for her. I do hope she recovers (and no, I don't think jail time would "help" her recovery). While I am not sure I think jail time as "punishment" solves anything in these types of cases, I do think institutionalization would have made sense. But I'm not the judge and don't know the details.

Jail time does solve something...it removes a clear and present danger from the streets before she really hurts or kills someone. Clearly her intention was to kill Lacy and in a horrific way. I'm saying regardless of her illness she is devoid of normal human compassion, she is a murder waiting to happen. Incarceration in a prison or in a mental institution was the way to go. 3 years probation for attempted murder is not the way our society works. If she is as ill as people say she is...how can we be sure that this result will be seen by her as an act of mercy? How can we be sure that she doesn't perceive this second chance as either a chance to clean up her act or a chance to get it right next time and really kill Lacy or someone else?

We are all judges when it comes to this type of behavior...we have been given the ability to discern right from wrong and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Chamiqua's behavior was aberrantly wrong. It is the duty of society to protect its citizenry from aberrant individuals and in this case it clearly failed to do so.

 

[meyers7]

Sorry, but life is hard enough for people dealing with severe mental health issues they don't need folks adding ridicule without understanding.

Irrelevant to whether it offends you or not.

And even if it does, man up a little.

 

[Icebear]

Irrelevant to whether it offends you or not.

And even if it does, man up a little.

Not at all that is why it offends me. It is a complete disrespect of the ill in a manner thar further demeans their struggle.