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High ankle sprain for Liam

If he’s fully healthy in 6 weeks, it has some decent silver linings in terms of others getting reps.
If he is out 6 weeks not sure this team makes tournament. I hope I am wrong, but bench outside of Reed has not played well this year.
 
We’re a LONG way from not making the tournament. We’re a solid 3 seed at the moment
I would expect that not having Liam for a month is not going to change our seeding in fact it will probably improve. I am looking forward to all of our role players stepping up and making us a better team than we were before the McNeeley injury. We are going to have fun watching this team be even better without their best player. I expect we will be a one seed by the time Liam comes back. Expecting anything less would be the way a casual fan thinks.
 
Spot on analysis. It CAN be a good thing but won’t be if we can’t win in his absence. Not sure why some people are out here denying that.
That is a great question. All I know is we are hoping three players suddenly play better than they have been and we should expect that to happen. Tomorrow is going to be interesting. Trainers knew it was a high ankle sprain right away and that news circulated on the bench quickly. Look at then Samson hug shared by Borges.
 
That is a great question. All I know is we are hoping three players suddenly play better than they have been and we should expect that to happen. Tomorrow is going to be interesting. Trainers knew it was a high ankle sprain right away and that news circulated on the bench quickly. Look at then Samson hug shared by Borges.
Serious question. I haven't sprained my ankle in a very long time, but do people know right after they sprain an ankle that it's a high ankle sprain? Just curious how you can tell without further medical evaluation (e.g. MRI).
 
I would expect that not having Liam for a month is not going to change our seeding in fact it will probably improve. I am looking forward to all of our role players stepping up and making us a better team than we were before the McNeeley injury. We are going to have fun watching this team be even better without their best player. I expect we will be a one seed by the time Liam comes back. Expecting anything less would be the way a casual fan thinks.
My expectation is that they will step up. I don’t expect it to be immediately. They were developing but it was in supporting roles. They needed more time in that capacity. Now they will be required to up their play to primary roles.

It would be incredible if they could produce in that role quickly. But I expect bumps over this month. Hope we get as many wins without Liam as possible because the last thing we need is for the sophomores to lose confidence. Hopefully the fans will turn out, support the team and be patient with the process.
 
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I expect we will be a one seed by the time Liam comes back. Expecting anything less would be the way a casual fan thinks.
OK Mr. Serious Fan, which of Tennessee, Auburn, Iowa St., Duke or Alabama is going backwards in order to hand over a #1 seed to us?
 
You guys really think he’s gonna be out for a month?? that long ? I know high ankle sprains take a while, but geez, that sounds a little extreme- I’m gong to be optimistic and say he’s back by January twenty something
 
I'm not surprised. It was a gruesome injury - I thought he might have broken a bone. Big opportunity for some meaningful minutes for Abraham.
 
Those three words give me pause. I tend to remember a few years back that a UConn wr had a high ankle sprain and it bothered him significantly all season.
Hopefully rehab has improved since then.
 
I could not agree more I just went on a little rant in the Hurley press availability thread to a post that said we were all over reacting. From my point of view it is a big deal and I feel badly for Liam most of all, think about it more than likely costs him some auto hardware as BE ROY, I really hope it does not impact draft status. We (or some of us ) also know he just does not come back in four weeks and we go right back to what we were becoming.

This injury changes the whole trajectory of the team we were becoming and now we really won’t know that until mid February and that is if Liam comes back in the projected timeline.
It may have just adjusted the trajectory for this year but possibly also next year as well. Missing that much time plus getting back into game condition will have a significant impact on Liam's potential NBA draft status this year. So instead of potentially a one and done he may wind up in Storrs again next year. No one knows the future but my hope is that all works out well for Liam in the long run. This is a resilient staff and a very deep bench. Trust in Hurley and the staff. When others step up we see what the practices have produced.
 
Liam's injury isn't ideal especially as it pertains to winning the BE regular season title but if we are going to win the BE or NCAA Tournament we will need a big leap from at least 2 of Mahaney, Stewart and Ross. Liam's vacated minutes allow the three of them to play to build confidence without looking over their shoulders and by the time Liam returns, there will be actual versus theoretical depth.
 
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By way of explanation, a high ankle sprain is an injury to the ligament that joins the two lower leg bones, the tibia and fibula, at the level of the ankle. It destabilizes the ankle much more than a lateral ligament sprain (although those can be serious also). Really severe high ankle sprains sometimes require surgery if very unstable.

The big issue is healing time. Lateral sprains can be anywhere from a few days to 3-4 weeks to return. High sprains can be double that, 3-8 weeks, or longer.

Heres hoping it’s not too long.
 
Serious question. I haven't sprained my ankle in a very long time, but do people know right after they sprain an ankle that it's a high ankle sprain? Just curious how you can tell without further medical evaluation (e.g. MRI).
The pain it is way worse than rolling your ankle in. Have you ever broken a bone? Most people know right away a high ankle sprain feels like you broke your ankle.

Also the way the ankle bends during the injury. A roll is turning your ankle in toward your torso. I high ankle sprain happens when your ankle twists out away your torso.

When you twist/roll it in it hurts but not nearly as much.

But you can’t really tell until an MRI. Arenas don’t have MRI’s, but most have X-ray machines so they knew it was not broken hence his return to the bench. The MRI just confirms the diagnosis and how severe the sprain is then they have an idea of projecting healing time. But I have found that it takes a few weeks to really determine how long it is going to be. At times they don’t heal quickly and then there is a minor procedure that can be performed to stabilize the ligament and promote correct healing.

You saw the look on Liam’s face he knew it was not a traditional ankle sprain and he is a very tough kid. Or at least seems to be one to me.
 
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OK Mr. Serious Fan, which of Tennessee, Auburn, Iowa St., Duke or Alabama is going backwards in order to hand over a #1 seed to us?
It was sarcasm responding to an earlier post. The whole post was a parody on another post.
 
Maybe Liam needs to get that tight rope surgery so he can be back in 2 weeks. JK

He could be out 4-6 weeks depending on the severity.
 
Tough news. High ankle sprains are the worst. Probably looking at mid February to be honest.
 
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With advancements in AI and medical treatments today, 4 to 6 weeks seems way conservative. This type of injury shouldn't linger more than 2 weeks. It's 2025 for God's Sake!
 
The pain it is way worse than rolling your ankle in. Have you ever broken a bone? Most people know right away a high ankle sprain feels like you broke your ankle.
I broke my leg playing soccer when I was a kid. Right above the ankle. I knew I broke it because my leg bent and I could feel the bend like my leg was made of rubber (like Gumby!). I'll still never forget what that felt like. 8 weeks in a full leg cast.
 
Biggest tell aside from periodic updates is if he travels with the team to Xavier on Jan 25.

1/29 is a home game vs DePaul where he is not as needed
2/1 is a road game at Marquette where everyone is needed in top form - 50/50 for that at this point for Liam.
2/7 is a home game vs St. John's where I would currently think he could play some minutes.
 
With advancements in AI and medical treatments today, 4 to 6 weeks seems way conservative. This type of injury shouldn't linger more than 2 weeks. It's 2025 for God's Sake!
Even the coach is saying if we get him back in January. This injury just takes time to heal. And you have to make sure it is 100% healed before trying anything like running and cutting on it. The risk of re-injury is high if you come back to quick.

It is not like a traditional rolled/twisted sprained ankle.

The ligament in question in a high ankle sprain is the main stabilizer for the whole ankle joint. That’s why it hurts so much more than the traditional roll.

As an athlete the first thing that crosses your mind, when you roll twist an ankle in the traditional way (in) toward the torso, is let me get up and see where I am at.

A high ankle sprain the reaction is different, it’s like wow that hurts bad did I break my ankle, should I try to get up. Just the fact that Liam tried to walk it off is testament to how tough a player he is.

We got a Cam 2.0, in Liam and now we have to go through a cold January without him.
 
You guys really think he’s gonna be out for a month?? that long ? I know high ankle sprains take a while, but geez, that sounds a little extreme- I’m gong to be optimistic and say he’s back by January twenty something
High ankle sprains take longer that regular ankle sprains to heal. Best case is usually 3 weeks.
 
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I broke my leg playing soccer when I was a kid. Right above the ankle. I knew I broke it because my leg bent and I could feel the bend like my leg was made of rubber (like Gumby!). I'll still never forget what that felt like. 8 weeks in a full leg cast.
High ankle was my fear when I saw the moi (mechanism of injury). It wasn’t your usual ankle roll - it was his toes hitting the floor and his foot rolling forward, not his outstep hitting the floor and his foot rolling to the side.
 
How many hours a day does he have treatment I wonder.
 
Today. Win #1 without Liam.
Move on...
Yup. Time to stop worrying about style points. We will move down in the Ken Pom performance type metrics while he’s out. That’s inevitable. Just win games and don‘t move down in the metrics based on winning. And stay in the thick of the Big East race.
 
He hurt it on 1/1/25. Approaching the end of week 1. Four to six weeks is 6-11 games. All numbers are approximate.

PeeCee 1/5
Nova 1/8 (end of week 1)
G'town 1/11
Creighton 1/18 week (end of week 2 and 3 days0
Butler 1/21 (end of week 3)
X 1/25
DePaul 1/29 (end of week 4)
Marq 2/1
SJU 2/7 (week 5 and 2 days)
Creighton 2/11
SHU2/15 (6 weeks and 3 days since injury)
 

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