Herbst Spoke w/ BC Pres. re: Block

[jpm25]

Dude, give it up you sound pathetic. What is your problem with her? Are you sexist, someone with a personal vendetta, or Jeff Hathaway?

it's Waylon

 

[jpm25]

Did you read a single tweet from a Texas beat writer where they were kissing Colorado's butt to get the Buffs to let them in the Pac 12? A&Mtuat

You don't handle situations like this through the press, and Herbst is enough of a pro that she should know better. My fear is that she knows we are cooked and she is just trying to make it look like she did everything she could when WVU and Louisville head to the Big 12.

Did UT sue Colorado, and have the legendary HBC say he would never, ever play them again?

 

[upstater]

She's just keeping things fluid. That's what the school needs. Don't allow any glue to set.

 

[HuskyNan]

HuskyNan said: ↑

I'm told Prez Herbst is traveling today. Wonder where?​

Huskynan,

Care to elaborate?

I don't know any more than the fact Herbst is traveling today. Given all that's going on and a quote in a news source yesterday that all her time is being spent on the conference issue, I wonder where she could be. I don't even have enough info to speculate.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Do you honestly believe that any of the football members would turn down an offer from another BCS conference because UConn is being quiet about what they want?

Jurich has publicly said he would turn down the SEC or Big 12. Trust is a pretty simple concept, but once it is lost, it is hard to repair. In 2003, the 5 schools circled the wagons and got to work on fixing the league. They had no TV deal, they only had one potential buyer, and the BCS bid was in very serious jeopardy. The next 5 years were better for the league than any 5 year period in its history.

Today, we lose a couple of has been, nobodies, and everyone is completely freaking out. Just because Cantor and Nordy are dirtbags doesn't mean every other school President needs to be one. Circle the wagons and get to work building the best league possible. Change creates opportunity for programs. Maybe a Houston joins and becomes the next TCU/Louisville. Instead, all 6 schools are running around trying to find winning lottery tickets, and if one school finds one, the other 5 are totally screwed. This is not the smart play, especially for UConn.

 

[Rumrunner]

Nothing wrong with trying to put two and x together where x is a plane to greensboro. Now if you only had the tail # of her plane!

I don't know any more than the fact Herbst is traveling today. Given all that's going on and a quote in a news source yesterday that all her time is being spent on the conference issue, I wonder where she could be. I don't even have enough info to speculate.

 

[CTMike]

1) How is the Big East not closer to C-USA today than it was last week or 8 years ago?
2) How is this better for the long term health of our sports programs?

 

[jpm25]

I don't know any more than the fact Herbst is traveling today. Given all that's going on and a quote in a news source yesterday that all her time is being spent on the conference issue, I wonder where she could be. I don't even have enough info to speculate.

check the tail number of Burton's jet.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

1) How is the Big East not closer to C-USA today than it was last week or 8 years ago?
2) How is this better for the long term health of our sports programs?

Good point. We should make another "leak" that we think the rest of the Big East sucks. Make sure we have the reporter call Luck and Jurich and see what they think about the leak.

 

[nadav]

Jurich has publicly said he would turn down the SEC or Big 12.

he's either an idiot or he is lying.

 

[buckley503]

he's either an idiot or he is lying.

and seeing that it a President's decision approved by a board, it doesn't really matter what Jurich says.

 

[Brian2001]

Nelson is either trying to piss the majority of us off to get our goat OR he is insane. The conference is not the same without Pitt and Cuse. I believe 160 + million has been spent on UConn football. This money was not spent for nothing

 

[CTMike]

Good point. We should make another "leak" that we think the rest of the Big East sucks. Make sure we have the reporter call Luck and Jurich and see what they think about the leak.

Erm... I wasn't trying to make the point you inferred, I was just asking a couple of questions. Regardless - yes, the rest of the Big East now does suck, and that's no secret to be leaked. They don't all suck equally, mind you. I quite like WVU and Louisville and the other football schools, and wish them well. But every one of them would jump at the opportunity to leave a league that (for football anyway) is swirling round the toilet. Maybe that opportunity never comes, but that doesn't mean we have to be all "yay rah rah! we r soooo awsum!! we have air force!!!1"

 

[EROCK CONN]

he's either an idiot or he is lying.

Jurich is committed to the Big East because he has to be.

He said he wouldn't go to the SEC because there is abosolutely no chance the SEC would ever invite Louisville. Anybody who knows anything about collegiate athletics knows that; he's just trying to make his commitment sound better.

 

[2Infinity]

Jurich has publicly said he would turn down the SEC or Big 12. Trust is a pretty simple concept, but once it is lost, it is hard to repair. In 2003, the 5 schools circled the wagons and got to work on fixing the league.

Actually, as you may recall, it was SIX teams that originally circled the wagons to fix the league. That sixth school was Boston College. They had not been included in the original raid, as most had thought, and they had hoped and expected. So they pledged to the BE to be a member and help rebuild it and make it the best conference possible. That was until the ACC knocked on their door for a second time ...and whoosh ...they were gone!!! Is that trust and unity?

Don't forget, she has not ruled out staying in the BE, but she is exploring all of our options. I much prefer Prez Herbst's approach in being honest about our intentions, rather than lying as some other former BE school presidents have done, both in the past and much more recently!

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Actually, as you may recall, it was SIX teams that originally circled the wagons to fix the league. That sixth school was Boston College. They had not been included in the original raid, as most had thought, and they had hoped and expected. So they pledged to the BE to be a member and help rebuild it and make it the best conference possible. That was until the ACC knocked on their door for a second time ...and whoosh ...they were gone!!! Is that trust and unity?

Don't forget, she has not ruled out staying in the BE, but she is exploring all of our options. I much prefer Prez Herbst's approach in being honest about our intentions, rather than lying as some other former BE school presidents have done, both in the past and much more recently!

5 schools circled the wagons, and the next 5 years were great for the conference and the individual schools, including UConn.

What do you expect from the conference? I want a schedule and enough quality to make for good games and a decent national reputation. In football, being in a super-tough conference is not an advantage. In basketball, I would argue otherwise.

 

[Nostical]

I would check to see if Herbst's plane is heading for Big 10 Country. Yes she reaches out to BC, perhaps to discuss the ACC blockage issue, but perhaps to gain some insight and mend some fences and set the platform for future dealings. Then she heads on over to the Big10 for lunch.

 

[1husky]

Jurich has publicly said he would turn down the SEC or Big 12. Trust is a pretty simple concept, but once it is lost, it is hard to repair. In 2003, the 5 schools circled the wagons and got to work on fixing the league. They had no TV deal, they only had one potential buyer, and the BCS bid was in very serious jeopardy. The next 5 years were better for the league than any 5 year period in its history.

Today, we lose a couple of has been, nobodies, and everyone is completely freaking out. Just because Cantor and Nordy are dirtbags doesn't mean every other school President needs to be one. Circle the wagons and get to work building the best league possible. Change creates opportunity for programs. Maybe a Houston joins and becomes the next TCU/Louisville. Instead, all 6 schools are running around trying to find winning lottery tickets, and if one school finds one, the other 5 are totally screwed. This is not the smart play, especially for UConn.

Are you some kind of union leader or something? Your response seems to always be about circling the wagons and sticking together. I agree that Herbst needs to stop acting like a rookie and plug the media leaks but the only school UConn, WVU, Louisville, and RU should be worried about is themselves. Pitt and Cuse may be has beens, nobodies (basketball fans would disagree) but they are also very strong national brands. Nobody has given a crap about Houston at least since 1984 and nobody will give a crap about ECU, UCF when they join too.

This football league is dead. Our 5 of our 6 best teams have left in the past 8 years. Time to leave it for dead. Adding other mid-majors isn't going to solve the problem.

 

[gars44]

Jurich has publicly said he would turn down the SEC or Big 12. Trust is a pretty simple concept, but once it is lost, it is hard to repair. In 2003, the 5 schools circled the wagons and got to work on fixing the league. They had no TV deal, they only had one potential buyer, and the BCS bid was in very serious jeopardy. The next 5 years were better for the league than any 5 year period in its history.

Today, we lose a couple of has been, nobodies, and everyone is completely freaking out. Just because Cantor and Nordy are dirtbags doesn't mean every other school President needs to be one. Circle the wagons and get to work building the best league possible. Change creates opportunity for programs. Maybe a Houston joins and becomes the next TCU/Louisville. Instead, all 6 schools are running around trying to find winning lottery tickets, and if one school finds one, the other 5 are totally screwed. This is not the smart play, especially for UConn.

So you really think Jurich woudn't be on the next train out of here if the Big 12 offered?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Are you some kind of union leader or something? Your response seems to always be about circling the wagons and sticking together. I agree that Herbst needs to stop acting like a rookie and plug the media leaks but the only school UConn, WVU, Louisville, and RU should be worried about is themselves. Pitt and Cuse may be has beens, nobodies (basketball fans would disagree) but they are also very strong national brands. Nobody has given a crap about Houston at least since 1984 and nobody will give a crap about ECU, UCF when they join too.

This football league is dead. Our 5 of our 6 best teams have left in the past 8 years. Time to leave it for dead. Adding other mid-majors isn't going to solve the problem.

You have to play the cards you are dealt. We are drawing 3 cards on an inside straight right now. It is a bad play.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

So you really think Jurich woudn't be on the next train out of here if the Big 12 offered?

I don't think anyone wants to join the Big 12 if they can trust that the Big East would hold together. The Big 12 may not make it to next month, much less next season, much less 10 years from now, even if they all held hands and sang kumbaya. I think most of the Big 12 north teams would join the Big East right now if they could figure a way out from under the departure penalty and they thought the Big East would hold together.

Texas is universally hated, and none of those schools want anything to do with Texas. Oklahoma likely thinks the Big East beneath them, but Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor know that the hammer will drop, and it is a matter of when, not if.

 

[noeynox]

Weak.

Common sense would say that you don't want everyone to know what you are saying in a situation like this. So why is UConn telling everyone? Just shut up to the press. It is unprofessional, insulting to the other members of the conference, and makes UConn look desperate. Desperation doesn't help in closing a sale.

What if someone at BC leaked this?

 

[The Funster]

5 schools circled the wagons, and the next 5 years were great for the conference and the individual schools, including UConn.

What do you expect from the conference? I want a schedule and enough quality to make for good games and a decent national reputation. In football, being in a super-tough conference is not an advantage. In basketball, I would argue otherwise.

Great? I don't know about you but most people were just wondering when, rather than if, this day would come. Yeah, they were good years but if anyone thought the break up wasn't inevitable, they've had their head in the sand.

 

[gars44]

What if someone at BC leaked this?

Maybe is she doesn't say anything people won't know how bad things are right now. Or maybe they just won't even remember that there used to be a big east conference.

 

[06029]

The ACC is a 75% vote league with the current 12 teams having equal votes. There is no way BC is blocking Uconn by itself. The push for Uconn is coming from K/Duke and Roy/UNC. Both Duke and UNC went for this round (they voted NO every time last time around) because they view this as strengthening BB which is the only sport those two schools like. Joining them would be VA and likely MD. The schools likely against expansion (excluding BC) would be FSU, Miami, VT and Clemson for FB reasons. NC State, Wake, and GT are probably on the no side due to a potential dilution of revenue and potential loss of their annual home/home games in BB with UNC/Duke. If there was significant enough change in revenue, they could all move to the yes side. Right now, Uconn by itself or Uconn/Rutgers does not get it done. You need the whale plus Uconn.

All this talk about kissing and making up is probably much more about getting games scheduled in the major sports to fill the holes left by Cuse and Pitt leaving.

 

[1husky]

I would check to see if Herbst's plane is heading for Big 10 Country. Yes she reaches out to BC, perhaps to discuss the ACC blockage issue, but perhaps to gain some insight and mend some fences and set the platform for future dealings. Then she heads on over to the Big10 for lunch.

Got some inside info you would care to share?

 

[Carl Spackler]

I'm not sure if it got lost in this silly argument that's developed, or if nobody actually focused on it, but what the reporter's statement says is actually very huge. He is a staff sports writer for the Waterbury Rep-Am and has covered UConn football.

I personally would hope that Ms. Herbst is in contact and pursuing contacts with the presidents of every university in the country that is of interest to UConn in moving forward in this intercollegiate athletics landscape. That's not the news - the news is that according to the reporter's statement, BC has actively blocked UConn from entering the ACC. So very much info around a single sentence.

I hope his statement was accurate, because I've read it about a dozen times, and I'm sure I'm not misinterpreting it.

http://twitter.com/#!/EdDaigneault/status/116897899748667392


Source: #UConn president Susan Herbst has spoken recently to BC president Fr. William P. Leahy regarding BC's block of UConn to the ACC.

 

[HuskyNan]

What if someone at BC leaked this?

Daigneault could have gotten it from ACC contacts, too.

Daigneault went to Springfield College, where he played baseball for a year. "I found out pretty quickly that I had been a big fish in a small pond in high school," he said.

He graduated from Springfield College in 1990 with a degree in English and a concentration in sports journalism.

"I had hoped to get a job in Massachusetts after graduating from college, but the economy was terrible," Daigneault said. "On a whim, I moved to North Carolina and worked in hotels for 4-5 months."

He got his first job as a sports writer in Rocky Mountain, N.C. and remained there for 18 months. Daigneault eventually moved on to the Burlington (North Carolina) Times-News and covered the Atlantic Coast Conference for the paper for six years.

Read more: http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/archive/x740859110/Whatever-Happened-To-Ed-Daigneault-Hudson-Catholic-Springfield-College#ixzz1YhxoyGUf​

 

[whaler11]

Good point. We should make another "leak" that we think the rest of the Big East sucks. Make sure we have the reporter call Luck and Jurich and see what they think about the leak.

You don't need to leak what everyone already knows. Luck and Jurich know damn well this sucks and would jump in a heartbeat to anything better.

 

[Rumrunner]

Put your thinking caps on for a moment. If the ACC had no intention of adding two teams relatively quickly, how long do you think it would take them to get the word out, and stop this madness
? 10 seconds.

Yet they haven't.