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Hearst Media CT: Hugh Bailey (opinion): UConn's biggest opponent is geography

BlueandOG said:
He's a goof with a bad take. This is the situation:

We are perceived as institutionally inept losers in football. Countless decisions since our former coach dreamed-jobbed us have been tragic - PP, GDL, Bobby Fishcake, ConFLiCT, Dream-Job 2.0, national champs of the COVID skip season, worst defense in FBS history, leaving a conference at the expense of football to save hoops, not hiring a DC, etc. etc. etc. Plus, we have been left at the P5/P4 alter very publicly way too many times because we are so terrible at football. It's a catch-22. If we win in football, we will get into a real conference. However, we can't win in football because we are not in a real conference.

The solution is to INVEST in football. We must allocate more money to coaching so we can get a DC and a new OC. We have to develop a cutting edge NIL program so that kids will WANT to play here. If we do that, we will start winning. Winning solves a LOT of problems.
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Agreed 10000%, but reality is this is Connecticut... folks look at checks and balances here ... HARD.... A loss year in and year out financially just doesn't sit well... Would be nice to tap into some of those Billionaires pockets for donations though (just sayin)....
 
shizzle787 said:
We are a state flagship, not a state directional. They are not our peers. Our peers are other state flagships and major private schools. FIU and Georgia State (whether they beat us or not) are not our peers.
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Truth. Appalachian St beat Michigan, are they peers??

As soon as we make the CUSA or MAC move, we have totally given up.
 
ZooCougar said:
Let’s get you back to bed Gramps.

If you don’t see the difference between this team and the one that was bot raced by Fresno and Holy Cross then you truly are a nitwit.
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U r aware that the first to use an ad hominem attack loses, right? And as I write this I am hoping that you know what the phrase means.
 
AllHusky said:
Truth. Appalachian St beat Michigan, are they peers??

As soon as we make the CUSA or MAC move, we have totally given up.
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Which is of course what the opinion piece is advocating.
 
ktuck911 said:
Agreed 10000%, but reality is this is Connecticut... folks look at checks and balances here ... HARD.... A loss year in and year out financially just doesn't sit well... Would be nice to tap into some of those Billionaires pockets for donations though (just sayin)....
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The UConn administration has already earmarked those contributions for other uses you may be sure. And to be quite frank, I am not sure that I would disagree with them. Part of me says the Ivy League has it about right. What is the primary mission of the University?

(I said part of me. Which means pretty much that I understand their point.)
 
RSTuthill said:
U r aware that the first to use an ad hominem attack loses, right? And as I write this I am hoping that you know what the phrase means.
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It’s not ad hominem when your takes are so clearly addled and demented.

That’s what they are.
 
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Skies2018 said:
I don’t think that’s totally fair. Yea we may have improvements but at the end of the day we’re still 1-7. By any measure this season has been an abject failure. Can’t be losing to FIU and USF at home. Can’t be losing to GA St on the road in front of 500 people. At the end of the day, when conference realignment comes around again - nobody gives an f about moral victories or improvements that don’t translate to wins.
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Typical moron Boneyard take. Georgia State is a good team. We are in no position to assume such a thing.
 
ktuck911 said:
Agreed 10000%, but reality is this is Connecticut... folks look at checks and balances here ... HARD.... A loss year in and year out financially just doesn't sit well... Would be nice to tap into some of those Billionaires pockets for donations though (just sayin)....
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and, oh, btw, we have a few of those in CT... market those folks a bit more... convince to to support their home state a little more than their alma maters... or just a much... can't they get some sort of a tax write off providing such support???? There's ways to do things.. why are we so doggone conservative (well, we're a little less conservative than years ago since we started this FBS thing)... just sayin...
 
BC fans claim that they are 7-1 this year except for 3 point losses.

At the end of the day, it is the program's fans that count close losses.

But BC fans and UConn fans are right that their teams have improved.
 
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billybud said:
BC fans claim that they are 7-1 this year except for 3 point losses.

At the end of the day, it is the program's fans that count close losses.

But BC fans and UConn fans are right that their teams have improved.
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For UConn, improvement is compared to two years ago. Gone backward relative to last year. Not half a step but a full step. Now the conference situation I am sure played a big role. But a full step back nonetheless.
 
ZooCougar said:
Typical moron Boneyard take. Georgia State is a good team. We are in no position to assume such a thing.
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Bro what. We SHOULD win those games. We have more resources and fairly equal talent pool on the roster. The fact that we lost is a testament to poor coaching. A lack of ability to learn from mistakes is what defines UConn football year after year. And that’s a coaching issue.
 
Skies2018 said:
Bro what. We SHOULD win those games. We have more resources and fairly equal talent pool on the roster. The fact that we lost is a testament to poor coaching. A lack of ability to learn from mistakes is what defines UConn football year after year. And that’s a coaching issue.
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I feel your pain 100000%.. those games we were very competitive in... but, IF this were year 3 and this happening then I'm really with you.. Fact is it's year 2 of setting us up long term... Again, if you look at the body of work compared to Edsall 2.0, we're just better (unfortunately with losses)... We're gonna be better off because of this (even though the losing is tiresome now)
 
ktuck911 said:
I feel your pain 100000%.. those games we were very competitive in... but, IF this were year 3 and this happening then I'm really with you.. Fact is it's year 2 of setting us up long term... Again, if you look at the body of work compared to Edsall 2.0, we're just better (unfortunately with losses)... We're gonna be better off because of this (even though the losing is tiresome now)
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I don’t completely disagree but the problem IS the coaching. I don’t see how that improves next year when we can’t even learn from simple mistakes during the season. Maybe Mora isn’t the problem - I’m not sure tbh - but at the very least he has chosen and enabled an absolutely atrocious supporting cast led by our moron in chief Nick Charlton. And those idiots are costing us game after game after game.
 
Skies2018 said:
Bro what. We SHOULD win those games. We have more resources and fairly equal talent pool on the roster. The fact that we lost is a testament to poor coaching. A lack of ability to learn from mistakes is what defines UConn football year after year. And that’s a coaching issue.
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Georgia State was clearly a more talented team.

Sorry. And no the recruiting base isn’t equal.
 
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ZooCougar said:
Georgia State was clearly a more talented team.

Sorry. And no the recruiting base isn’t equal.
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URI - an FCS team from a hour away in the exact same region - put up 35 points against them and lost by a touchdown. You’re gonna tell me our recruiting base is the problem? Moronic. If anything makes it hard to recruit it’s not being in a conference. The problem is our coaching. Which stems from a lack of investment.
 
Skies2018 said:
URI - an FCS team from a hour away in the exact same region - put up 35 points against them and lost by a touchdown. You’re gonna tell me our recruiting base is the problem? Moronic. If anything makes it hard to recruit it’s not being in a conference. The problem is our coaching. Which stems from a lack of investment.
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UConn has five games decided by one TD (one by one pt, another by two) and one decided by 10 pts). Their record sucks, but the team isn't the embarrassment some here claim.
 
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temery said:
UConn has five games decided by one TD (one by one pt, another by two) and one decided by ten. Their record sucks, but the team isn't the embarrassment some here claim.
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I’m sorry I just don’t buy that. Coming close doesn’t mean anything in sports. It’s your record that goes in the books. There’s no asterisk for close losses. 1-7 is an embarrassment. Full stop. And if it’s not for fans players or the program, then that’s sad. Ya gotta win close games. That’s how it works.

Also most games we don’t score more than 14 points. Can’t do that and win in CFB in 2023.
 
Skies2018 said:
I’m sorry I just don’t buy that. Coming close doesn’t mean anything in sports. It’s your record that goes in the books.
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Then this is an odd thing to say.

Skies2018 said:
URI - an FCS team from a hour away in the exact same region - put up 35 points against them and lost by a touchdown.
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temery said:
Then this is an odd thing to say.
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temery said:
Then this is an odd thing to say.
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I see what you’re saying but that was a point about URI being able to recruit talent that put up a better game than us against the same opponent. It wasn’t an assessment of whether or not they’re a good team overall.

i mean do you really buy that our program is vastly improved from 5 years ago? If so, how?
 
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Can we just agree that we have improved from the historic horrible teams of 3+ years ago but we are still a very very bad bottom 10-20 football team? Yes, games are closer which is good but how can you guys on one hand say we are losing to G5 teams but happy we are playing them closer and then in the next sentence say the G5 conferences are beneath us?

I just don’t get why people are content with being independent and happy to play a schedule with 4 P4 teams a year over being in a conference. Winning will help us move up. We really cannot compete with the P4 unless the state/university just magically decides to make a HUGE invest in football which we all know is not going to happen. Our head coach, who has brought hope to the program has come right out and said this. And yet folks still think otherwise. Bottomline, we need to be in a conference.

It is sorta laughable that folks actually think the P4 are our peers. Why are we playing them? Because it’s more attractive for the fans that don’t show up for the games anyway? We should just get into a G5 conference and have something to play for. Win there, make a few bowls, possibly a conference championship and start talking about moving up. Did someone actually post that we could get an at large to the playoff as an independent over a team from the SEC/B1G? I agree a MAC or CUSA G5 is a super long shot but…c’mon, an at large? Really?
 
Skies2018 said:
URI - an FCS team from a hour away in the exact same region - put up 35 points against them and lost by a touchdown. You’re gonna tell me our recruiting base is the problem? Moronic. If anything makes it hard to recruit it’s not being in a conference. The problem is our coaching. Which stems from a lack of investment.
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That doesn’t mean anything. Week 1 results are often anomalous. Georgia State is pretty good. I think that you are looking at the wrong things.

They are 6-2 overall and in third place in the Sun Belt. And probably ranked waaaay higher.

Typical uneducated Boneyarder take.
 
ZooCougar said:
That doesn’t mean anything. Week 1 results are often anomalous. Georgia State is pretty good. I think that you are looking at the wrong things.

They are 6-2 overall and in third place in the Sun Belt. And probably ranked waaaay higher.

Typical uneducated Boneyarder take.
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Ok so then explain our losses to FIU and USF. They’re certainly not more talented than us. Explain why we’ve score more than 14 points twice all season. Explain why we’re kicking 54 yard field goals in absolutely absurd situations. Explain why Nick Charlton is calling screen plays on 3&10.

This team is bad because it is poorly coached. And it’s poorly coached because we’re not doing a good job at finding paying and retaining talented coaches. Other teams make do and succeed with less. We’re just bad at running a football program.
 
ZooCougar said:
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.
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Insanity is the road college athletics is on right now. You seem to think a conference will change that?
 
Skies2018 said:
URI - an FCS team from a hour away in the exact same region - put up 35 points against them and lost by a touchdown. You’re gonna tell me our recruiting base is the problem? Moronic. If anything makes it hard to recruit it’s not being in a conference. The problem is our coaching. Which stems from a lack of investment.
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I think Mora was the best option and seemed like he wanted to be here. Were others better? Moorhead? Brown? Purely hypothetical.
 
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