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hawkins a better pro than bouknight?

Kenny11 said:
Bouk will likely get one more chance next season in the nba. He ruined his chances with his behavior, decisions and habits his first 2 years. He can’t afford to mess up again but he might do it anyway. Hawkins is a different type of guy. He will make the best of his talent and should at least carve out an nba role
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Any team that look at Bouks arrests and rap sheet is not going to take a chance on him when there are so many players who are the same type of player. His act during the NBE tournament he played should have scared any sane person away
The kid needs lots of help and it has nothing to do with basketball. It's a huge shame. And shame on all those that knew his issues and did nothing and hid it. An intervention earlier in his life may have made a huge difference.
I hope he sees the light soon as I pray Ben Gordon does and hope Jeff Adrien stays on the straight and narrow.
 
Bouknight might be Hurley’s most important recruit. Its very possible no Bouknight then there is no Hawkins, being a 2 and done gives Hurley more traction in recruiting.

Hopefully Bouk can get his life together most importantly then get his career back on track.
 
Impossible to say. Hawkins could be one of the best shooters in the NBA whereas Bouknight probably won't ever be. Hawkins higher defensive upside as well. But Bouknight's handle and scoring instincts are on a different level. The "Hawkins higher floor, Bouknight higher ceiling" comment seems reasonable to me.
 
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Love Bouk but he is not the 'standard':

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Ratso said:
he’s coachable and great 3mediocre D guy
and bouk has been lighting it up the past few games.

thoughts?
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I believe we saw a glimpse of what Hawk can be as a player where as we saw what Book can do for the most part. A decade from now if both guys reach their potential Hawk will be the better player.
 
Bouk gave everything he had to this program. There is no Jordan Hawkins at UConn without Bouk. He legitimized us again. Put some respect on his name. His last season here ended with a whimper. But that had much more to do with an injury than his talent. He’s a young kid who’s made some mistakes. But don’t doubt if Bouk had the supporting cast that Hawkins had….he might be a champion as well.

Newton
Bouk
Jackson
Karaban
Sanogo/Clingan

Yea…


We can root for them both to be great. Which is what I intend to continue to do. They’re brothers united by Blue Husky Blood. Go Huskies!
 
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I think Hawkins has a lot of work to do on defense and creating space for his quick release., He will be well-served on a team that has a true point guard/distributor who is able/willing to be his set-up guy. His upside exceeds Bouknight, along with his behavior, demeanor and attitude. In the locker room................no contest............Hawkins.
 
Bouknight got drafted by the worst possible team that didn’t help him address any of his behavioral issues or help him grow as a basketball player. He often seems rudderless out there. He has one more year to prove his viability. The talent is there.
 
Both are Uber talented. Bouk needed maturity and maybe some therapy. He will succeed if he overcomes those issues. His talent is elite and he can be a perennial All Star.

Hawk is humble, talented and relentless. He’s an NBA GM’s dream. He might not be a star, but he’ll play in the league for a long, long time.
 
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AntG168 said:
Bouk gave everything he had to this program. There is no Jordan Hawkins at UConn without Bouk.
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I'm not sure that is true. Hawkins committed to UConn in August 2020, which was between Bouknight's freshman and sophomore seasons. Bouknight's freshman season was good but not good enough where people outside the UConn program were noticing him that much. Not until Bouknight got drafted in the lottery did Hurley have something to sell to recruits.
 
HooperScooper said:
I'm not sure that is true. Hawkins committed to UConn in August 2020, which was between Bouknight's freshman and sophomore seasons. Bouknight's freshman season was good but not good enough where people outside the UConn program were noticing him that much. Not until Bouknight got drafted in the lottery did Hurley have something to sell to recruits.
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Ray Allen seemed to have more influence over his commitment to UConn than Bouknight.

In particular, Jones said, Hawkins is a fan of Ray Allen, and it was no coincidence he featured Allen highlights prominently in the video that served as his official announcement.

Btw, it's interesting reading this article after Hawkins committed. Everything in there basically ended up being true.

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I am rooting for both, if I had to bet on one to score more NBA points it would certainly be hawkins.... that said, Bouknight had something that very few people have and that is the ability to just break down an NBA defense and score off the dribble, due to a variety of factors he hasnt gotten there yet and maybe never will but I still believe his ceiling is higher
 
HooperScooper said:
Bouknight's freshman season was good but not good enough where people outside the UConn program were noticing him that much.
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Didn't help he had upperclassmen playing keepaway.
 
HooperScooper said:
I'm not sure that is true. Hawkins committed to UConn in August 2020, which was between Bouknight's freshman and sophomore seasons. Bouknight's freshman season was good but not good enough where people outside the UConn program were noticing him that much. Not until Bouknight got drafted in the lottery did Hurley have something to sell to recruits.
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This is inaccurate. Everyone knew he was a stud after his freshman season. His being left on of All Big East preseason teams was pure politics.
 
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AntG168 said:
This is inaccurate. Everyone knew he was a stud after his freshman season. His being left on of All Big East preseason teams was pure politics.
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Bouk being a stud is debatable.
J D Davison has seen more NBA playing time in Boston this season than Bouk has seen in 2 and he only averaged 9 pts in his only season at Bama. Bouk looked the part but can't get it together to play it. Over hyped and more concerning- a complete mess.
UConn did him no favors either.
UconnPT2007 said:
Bouknight got drafted by the worst possible team that didn’t help him address any of his behavioral issues or help him grow as a basketball player. He often seems rudderless out there. He has one more year to prove his viability. The talent is there.
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You have no idea what you are talking about at all. Bouk came to UConn with a boatload of issues and they were never brought out to the forefront. NBA teams are not babysitters for kids who think that driving recklessly fast, abusing substances, playing with firearms and acting like an uncontrollable petulant child is ok. It's a job not a behavioral issue resort, its a workplace and any of us who did the things he did we would be unemployed. He is rudderless on the court and off.
 
gtcam said:
Bouk being a stud is debatable.
J D Davison has seen more NBA playing time in Boston this season than Bouk has seen in 2 and he only averaged 9 pts in his only season at Bama. Bouk looked the part but can't get it together to play it. Over hyped and more concerning- a complete mess.
UConn did him no favors either.

You have no idea what you are talking about at all. Bouk came to UConn with a boatload of issues and they were never brought out to the forefront. NBA teams are not babysitters for kids who think that driving recklessly fast, abusing substances, playing with firearms and acting like an uncontrollable petulant child is ok. It's a job not a behavioral issue resort, its a workplace and any of us who did the things he did we would be unemployed. He is rudderless on the court and off.
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Bouk being a stud in college is not debatable at all. He dropped 40 in his first BE game against a REALLY good Creighton team
 
AntG168 said:
This is inaccurate. Everyone knew he was a stud after his freshman season. His being left on of All Big East preseason teams was pure politics.
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What politics are you referring to? I seriously don't remember.
 
gtcam said:
Bouk being a stud is debatable.
J D Davison has seen more NBA playing time in Boston this season than Bouk has seen in 2 and he only averaged 9 pts in his only season at Bama. Bouk looked the part but can't get it together to play it. Over hyped and more concerning- a complete mess.
UConn did him no favors either.

You have no idea what you are talking about at all. Bouk came to UConn with a boatload of issues and they were never brought out to the forefront. NBA teams are not babysitters for kids who think that driving recklessly fast, abusing substances, playing with firearms and acting like an uncontrollable petulant child is ok. It's a job not a behavioral issue resort, its a workplace and any of us who did the things he did we would be unemployed. He is rudderless on the court and off.
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Charlotte is the absolute WORST place for someone like Bouk to go to if these issues are true… that locker room is well… and I don’t even like talking about guys like this.

If all this is true, Bouk desperately needs to go somewhere with a veteran presence that can keep him in line. Spurs were literally the next pick…

Hawkins has a huge upper hand with all the NBA greats that should be guiding him along his journey as mentors. I don’t know if I saw anyone come back to mentor Bouk like that (probably for the reasons stated).
 
HooperScooper said:
What politics are you referring to? I seriously don't remember.
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UConn being a first year member of the big east. Everyone knew it was laughable to leave Bouk off that list. He wasn’t some surprise breakout player his sophomore year. He was always going to be a 2 and done and everyone knew it after his freshman year. He was that good
 
Connhomer99 said:
bouk is still young and has potential but i think hawkins has the 3 point shooting game that will light up the nba, I dont know who to compare him to. I have hopes he can be ray allen greatness though
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Step Curry comparison? Especially 3 point shooting?
 
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