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Has Geno ever used a box and 1?

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Not suggesting it, I'm not even sure that he's got anyone equal to the task. Just curious if anyone has any recollection of him using it in the past. Sure would be nice to bring Kia Nurse back for one more game, eh?
 
As I posted a few days ago, I think UConn will try to force the ball out of Clark’s hands as much as possible, either by doubling her early in the possession or hedging hard in high ball screens. Once the ball is out of Clark’s hands, Iowa’s offense is not nearly as effective.
 
As I posted a few days ago, I think UConn will try to force the ball out of Clark’s hands as much as possible, either by doubling her early in the possession or hedging hard in high ball screens. Once the ball is out of Clark’s hands, Iowa’s offense is not nearly as effective.
Yes oldude, it seems anyone is less lethel than Caitlin. But we know from the past that others have stepped up in these situations, and the rest of their team is not bad. She will get her shots, we can hedge and double team also, but we cannot afford to acknowledge what the other players did to Kentucky. We don't know how good their big is, if their other 3 point shooters are really as good as they have shown. The first quarter may be like the Syracuse game, or we can attack the paint immediately. I don't think Paige will be aggressive early, depending on if Nika plays, and if she is effective. The key to this game other than slowing down Caitlin is Paiges mindset. Stay on point, don't get caught up in Caitlins game, and stick to the game plan. Be Paige Bueckers!
 
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As I posted a few days ago, I think UConn will try to force the ball out of Clark’s hands as much as possible, either by doubling her early in the possession or hedging hard in high ball screens. Once the ball is out of Clark’s hands, Iowa’s offense is not nearly as effective.
Exactly. Lots of in your face defense from, hopefully, Nika, Christyn, and Aubrey. But everyone will be aware of her if she gets by the first wall someone will be quick to pick her up and also there will be adjustments to cover the player the second wall has to leave. It's going to be an interesting game. We don't have to stop her, just slow her down and prevent the easy assist. Statistically we can score with them.
 
Thanks for the answers. I really was just curious about what we've done in the past with the Jewell Loyd and Angel McCoutrey-type players. My memory is consistent with ucbart's, a lot of hard denial, face guarding and aggressive help but no gimmick defense. With a lot of shooters, we'd talk about running them off the line but with Caitlin C, from what I've seen, she can be anywhere behind the line and launch her shot. Seems the teams that have beaten Iowa have done so by outscoring them so I guess you can't sacrifice O for D. Still, I'd be very impressed (and surprised) if Iowa and Cailtlin can score to their season's avg against us.
 
Kentucky had Patterson who is a lot quicker and faster than anyone Uconn has try to face guard her and stick to her like glue..how did that turn out
 
Kentucky had Patterson who is a lot quicker and faster than anyone Uconn has try to face guard her and stick to her like glue..how did that turn out
Patterson gave up 7" to Clark and KY's help defense was non-existent. Clark had no problem getting off her jump shot over a much shorter Patterson. Now consider Aubrey with her long arms contesting Clark's shot with a hand in her face, and it's a different ballgame.
 
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Patterson gave up 7" to Clark and KY's help defense was non-existent.
Length is almost more important than quickness against Clark because she’ll just shoot over you. I’m sure this is a matchup Kia would have looked forward to.

Lobo broke down UConn’s defense against a top scorer during a halftime segment.
 
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Not suggesting it, I'm not even sure that he's got anyone equal to the task. Just curious if anyone has any recollection of him using it in the past. Sure would be nice to bring Kia Nurse back for one more game, eh?
I don't remember him ever using a box-in-one defense. He usually has a stopper like Nurse or Jefferson. He always uses a lot of switching defense against an opposing star player which is hard but when you well coached it works...
 
I feel like Iowa shoots the 3 too well across the board for it to be effective (Iowa could use it on us because we don’t). Better off just staying close, switching perimeter screens, and then figuring out the screen and roll with Czinano since you don’t want to switch that. Probably double that, bring help for the roll, and rotate to shooters, which requires good communication and organization.

Iowa could also decide to just get the matchup they want if we switch everything - if they want Clark attacking Evina, Nika or Paige, they can get that switch and attack it. So we might need to throw different looks - occasionally doubling or fighting over the screen - so they don’t get comfortable.

Iowa also scores, so we also can’t overreact if something doesn’t work a couple times. If we run Clark off the line and she hits a tough two or dishes to Czinano, we can live with a few of those. Just don’t want to see Iowa playing pop a shot unguarded around the arc.
 
Patterson gave up 7" to Clark and KY's help defense was non-existent. Clark had no problem getting off her jump shot over a much shorter Patterson. Now consider Aubrey with her long arms contesting Clark's shot with a hand in her face, and it's a different ballgame.
Concur with your assessment of KY's defense. Frankly, I was very disappointed with KY's approach to the game vs Iowa. It didnt appear they brought emotion, fire, or drive to the game.
 
Patterson gave up 7" to Clark and KY's help defense was non-existent. Clark had no problem getting off her jump shot over a much shorter Patterson. Now consider Aubrey with her long arms contesting Clark's shot with a hand in her face, and it's a different ballgame.
Sure if Clarke is standing still but she'll be moving and my point is Patterson is extremely quick and couldn't stay with Clarke..She''ll fake one way or the other drive and stop on a dime with no hand in her face..Don't you think other teams have tried using a taller guard against her.Clarke has seen it all and just like Paige not one person is going to contain her.You have to guard her close or she shoots from 27'..get close and she drives by you..IMO Uconn plays the same defense they have been using with a help "D' and Clarke gets her points..limit the other players and just outscore them which should not be too hard
 
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Sure if Clarke is standing still but she'll be moving and my point is Patterson is extremely quick and couldn't stay with Clarke..She''ll fake one way or the other drive and stop on a dime with no hand in her face..Don't you think other teams have tried using a taller guard against her.Clarke has seen it all and just like Paige not one person is going to contain her.You have to guard her close or she shoots from 27'..get close and she drives by you..IMO Uconn plays the same defense they have been using with a help "D' and Clarke gets her points..limit the other players and just outscore them which should not be too hard
Sorry, but it sounds like you are making Clark out to be 'superwoman'. She is no different than any other good player. How many good teams has she come up against that have a good defense, like UCONN? Even Paige can't shoot great all the time, especially with a good defensive team. Paige was limited to 38% shooting against Syracuse. True Clark is a great shooter, but not unstoppable.
 
The existence of this thread demonstrates that we are too fixated on one player. If the premise is true that one player will not beat us, why worry about Caitlin so much? UConn's usual approach is to guard the opposing team, which assumes that teams at this level have a few players who can do harm. Kentucky was prepared to sacrifice a player to chase Clark, and it didn't work. Yet they continued to pursue Caitlin until the end of the game. Made no sense.
A big part of the fun of being a Husky fan is wondering how Geno will handle a given situation. He understands better than anyone what his players can do. I trust that he'll use his players to the best advantage.
 
Sure if Clarke is standing still but she'll be moving and my point is Patterson is extremely quick and couldn't stay with Clarke..She''ll fake one way or the other drive and stop on a dime with no hand in her face..Don't you think other teams have tried using a taller guard against her.Clarke has seen it all and just like Paige not one person is going to contain her.You have to guard her close or she shoots from 27'..get close and she drives by you..IMO Uconn plays the same defense they have been using with a help "D' and Clarke gets her points..limit the other players and just outscore them which should not be too hard
Is there some reason that you continue to misspell C Clark's name? Have you not noticed in the hundreds of references to her on The Boneyard or in outside articles ,that her last name is Clark? I ask this because I think an intentional misspelling of someone's name is a sign of disrespect.It's kind of like the one Boneyard poster who continues to spell Paige's name as Page.
 
Not suggesting it, I'm not even sure that he's got anyone equal to the task. Just curious if anyone has any recollection of him using it in the past. Sure would be nice to bring Kia Nurse back for one more game, eh?
Love your posts generally! But you mentioned it!!
A box and one is a "trick" defense. It's putting a man on Clark with no help responsibilities and the rest of the team playing a 4 person zone. Talented teams don't play trick defenses.
I would postulate that strategies in general need to also accentuate your own team's strengths. In no way would this defense play to our strengths. It slows the game to a crawl. We are a team of "colts" and we are at our best in an up-tempo environment. Analogy: Michigan St- Indiana St 1979 Bird-Magic. Michigan St by far had the best talent position by position. Maybe Indiana St had the best player. Michigan St won rather easily because they had people to put on Bird to slow him down- Greg Kelser for one. We have talented basketball players to match up with Clark.
 
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A couple of years ago an AAC coach, during the league tournament, claimed Geno briefly threw the box and 1 at his team. I think it was Jose' Fernandez. He may have been saying that for emphasis of his point about UConn switching defenses.
 
Actually, Geno is considering the box and one, but he thinks he will need to put the box on Caitlin.:)
 
A couple of years ago an AAC coach, during the league tournament, claimed Geno briefly threw the box and 1 at his team. I think it was Jose' Fernandez. He may have been saying that for emphasis of his point about UConn switching defenses.
I think he put a box and one on Candace Parker too as part of a junk defense. I remember that after the game CD was quoted as saying that UConn tried to slow her down by using a junk defense on CP and some in the Boneyard went bananas thinking CD was throwing the UConn defense under the bus. Incidentally, some Tennessee fans were offended too, thinking CD was making a personal comment about Parker 🙄
 
A few days ago I made a post on the "Syracuse Postgame" thread about a game against Ohio State a few years ago where UConn had the problem of guarding a backcourt star. I have since checked for that game on the uconnhuskygames.com site and, to my alarm, I realized that I had many specific facts wrong even though the general principle was right.

The Ohio State guard being defended was not Kelsey Griffin, as I stated, but rather Kelsey Mitchell. The game was not in the 2016-17 season but in the 2015-16 season (Stewie's senior year) -- it was UConn's season opener that year. And the UConn defenders at the start of the game were Kia Nurse, Gabby Williams (got those two right), and Moriah Jefferson.

But UConn did start in a 3-2 zone as I stated, although they switched to a man-to-man in the second quarter. Those two defenses didn't look much different from each other -- they each resembled the "1.5 defenders" concept that Rebecca mentioned during halftime of yesterday's games.

Whatever it was, it worked. Mitchell got (I believe) one driving layup and no jump shots during the entire first half. It helped that she got two early fouls and was on the bench for a long time. That may be part of the defense against Caitlin Clark as well: make her work hard on defense and get her in foul trouble. I don't think she is the most agile defender in the world, and players such as Christyn / Paige / Evina / Aubrey may be able to exploit her at the defensive end -- and certainly they can make her burn calories at that end.

Ohio State got a few paint points against that defense, but nothing to match the explosion that UConn was causing at the other end.

I can foresee a similar game on Saturday, and I would expect the final margin of victory to be in the 15-20 point range, possibly higher.
 
He used a box and one on Kelly Mazzante during the NCAA tourney in Hartford years ago.

thanks.. good memory.
Not for Kelly - heh heh!

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A couple of years ago an AAC coach, during the league tournament, claimed Geno briefly threw the box and 1 at his team. I think it was Jose' Fernandez. He may have been saying that for emphasis of his point about UConn switching defenses.
That must have been in the 2015-16 season when South Florida had Courtney Williams, who was a first-round WNBA draft choice who played several years for the Connecticut Sun -- very successfully. She was and is an unbelievably fast guard with a very good jump shot. My recollection is that Geno had Nurse, Gabby Williams, and possibly Moriah guarding her at different points in the game. When they guarded her, they had no help responsibilities, so it amounted to face-guarding. The fact that he had three different defenders on her at different times kept any of them from running out of energy, while taxing C. Williams's stamina to the limit.

After the last game, Geno made a comment about how Jose "ran some great stuff to get her open". As I recall, she got about 15 points, which wasn't nearly enough to make the game competitive. That might have been the game where Lou went 10-for-10 on 3-point shots. That may have overshadowed C. Williams's heroic efforts in a losing cause.

I may take another look at that game to see what defense was used. But dealing with star opposing guards is hardly a new challenge for Geno, CD, and the other coaches.
 
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