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Has any coach done less with more than Bill Self?

Matrim55 said:
555 wins, 4 final four appearances, 1 title and tons of guys put into the league.

If you offered me that for the next 20 years, I'd sign up for it in a heartbeat.
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so many people here would be upset with this. but I agree, would be very happy with this
 
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UCDaveD said:
Seemingly perennial conference champs.

High seeds year after year.

Cheating.

Only 1 title to show for it.

Currently getting run out of the gym by UNC.
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I just now made it to the TV. Kansas down by 1. 12 minutes to go.
 
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Regardless of the outcome of this game, I'm not sure why you'd use "Seemingly perennial conference champs" as a way to say he's been a bad coach...
 
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auror said:
Regardless of the outcome of this game, I'm not sure why you'd use "Seemingly perennial conference champs" as a way to say he's been a bad coach...
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I didn’t say bad coach though, did I?
 
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More with less is a better headline. Kansas hasn’t recruited well those were a bunch of 3 and 4 star kids and transfers. Similar to our recruiting.
 
UcannUconn said:
More with less is a better headline. Kansas hasn’t recruited well those were a bunch of 3 and 4 star kids and transfers. Similar to our recruiting.
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If only we had some more shot makers this season. None of these teams were light years more talented than us. Just better constructed.
 
UCDaveD said:
I didn’t say bad coach though, did I?
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Doing less with more implies bad coach, at least insofar as the non-recruiting aspects. A good coach would do more, a medium coach would do the right amount, and a bad coach does less.
 
auror said:
Doing less with more implies bad coach, at least insofar as the non-recruiting aspects. A good coach would do more, a medium coach would do the right amount, and a bad coach does less.
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Hardly. Expectations aren’t the same for every coach.

I have no problem taking the L on this post, and the roasting that comes with it, but I just find it weird to put words in my mouth when there’s much lower hanging fruit.
 
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better than the Zags coach and the overrated one IMHO is Cal in KY always has a top three class at worst and yet only one title


Congrats to Kansas
 
2 national championships changes national perception quite a bit. Roy Williams at KUhad better teams with players staying 3 years at least and didn’t win 1 national championship. You really can nitpick any coaches tourney resume. Self also got Tulsa to the elite 8.
 
UCDaveD said:
Hardly. Expectations aren’t the same for every coach.

I have no problem taking the L on this post, and the roasting that comes with it, but I just find it weird to put words in my mouth when there’s much lower hanging fruit.
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I apologize for putting words in your mouth. Feel free to elaborate. If not a bad coach, you think he's a mediocre coach with more?

Coach K, widely regarded as the best coach in the modern era, who has had plenty of more, perhaps the most, had 23 seasons with a conference regular season and/or tournament title in 42 high major seasons.

Bill Self has 19 such titles in 22 high major seasons.
 
He has a 4-7 record in the elite 8 in a little over 20 years, 2 championships, and a runner-up. Every single person on this board would sign up for a two-decade stretch like that for Hurley (especially considering he is already 4 complete seasons in @ UConn).
 
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