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Huskymagic said:
Gaff is just clearly much better than Cole.

The whole “offense runs better through Cole” is nonsense.

Also, if we’re going to recruit so many bigs and not play them that’s going to be a problem.

I like AJacks energy and contributions in the game more than Martin’s. Martin is solid but his overall impact on the outcome of the game was negligible.

Polley impacts the game in a positive way. When he’s in the game good things happen for the team.
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Martin is solid but his overall impact on the outcome of the game was negligible.

10 rebounds is negligible???
 
HooperScooper said:
Here's my two cents. And I said this before the season.

When you have a lot of new and inexperienced, but talented, players on a team it's going to take time to figure out roles and rotations. Usually you use 12 or 13 games before conference play with lots of buy games and a few high major games to work on this and see how things look. We have a bunch of new players who've never played with each other before. And other guys are inexperienced.

Unfortunately with this messed up season they don't have that long before conference play to figure things out. I don't think these things ever get worked out in 2 games except when you have a very experienced team coming back who have played with each other. It's going to be a work in progress until at least early January.
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This exactly.

What makes ppl think Dan Hurley played his top lineup for the whole game?
It’s game 2, against Hartford. We had a minute of panic when being up only 3...but, foul trouble played a huge part of the lineups and game flow, our shots weren’t falling much, and our defense was better but still bad.

Cole is clearly a more capable scorer than gaffney at this time. Whether that’s because of inexperience and hesitation, idk. But, Cole creates his own shot much more easily, attacks the rim at a whole different speed level, and hits the 3. Reminds me a lot of Isaiah Thomas (you know which one I mean)
 
Didn't anybody else notice that Gaffney got beat off the dribble every time they isolated him? I was surprised they went away from it. They really exposed his lack of foot speed. You better believe opposing coaches will see this this when preparing for us.
 
Huskymagic said:
You watched Cole tonight and the eye test told you great player? He was outplayed by Gaff by a big margin.
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Do me a favor. When you get a chance, watch the replay from the 14:00 minute mark of the second half to the 12:30 minute mark or so. This is when UConn, having seen their lead cut from 19 to 3, and looking like scared rabbits, suddenly opened the lead back up to 10. Tell me what player was personally responsible for every single point scored in that run. And then let's talk about the eye test again.
 
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Flahuskie said:
Martin is solid but his overall impact on the outcome of the game was negligible.

10 rebounds is negligible???
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Three guys brought value and affected the outcome of the game: Bouk, Gaff, and Whaley.

Everyone else was a zero or a negative last night.

That’s my contribution for our beloved casual fans.
 
Cole is a very good player. He may not be a high level facilitator. So far, it seems he is much better at getting his own shot (which is pretty good) than at getting easy buckets for others. Through two games (52 minutes) against lesser opponents, he leads the team in assists (7), turnovers (6) and and steals (5).

Gaffney in a few more minutes (60) has 5 assists, only one TO with a single steal.

They bring different things. Both are valuable. But let's not form lasting opinions after two games. There is plenty of time to gain cohesion and chemistry.
 
I thought we were undisciplined on defense and we’re still not gelling yet offensively. We have so many new pieces and a lot of them. Over time Hurley will limit the rotation.
 
Stainmaster said:
The only thing worse than being wrong is being wrong and egotistical.
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Every game is different, but I’m not wrong.

Bouk, Gaff, and Whaley are the only guys who brought enough value and made enough winning plays that it led to winning last night.

Everyone else were just warm bodies on the floor despite their stats.

Let’s see what happens next week. That will explain a lot.
 
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Huskymagic said:
Every game is different, but I’m not wrong.

Bouk, Gaff, and Whaley are the only guys who brought enough value and made enough winning plays that it led to winning last night.

Everyone else were just warm bodies on the floor despite their stats.

Let’s see what happens next week. That will explain a lot.
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You are wrong on RJ Cole. Full stop.
 
I missed the game it was too early , but according to the box score Polley played only 15 minutes and never shot a three against a team playing zone. Curious Stat Line for a zone buster. Maybe Hurley was approaching this like a scrimmage seeing what other shooters would step up or Polley was just off his game. I’ll tell you more from the replay.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
I missed the game it was too early , but according to the box score Polley played only 15 minutes and never shot a three against a team playing zone. Curious Stat Line for a zone buster. Maybe Hurley was approaching this like a scrimmage seeing what other shooters would step up or Polley was just off his game. I’ll tell you more from the replay.
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Polley had early foul trouble and Hartford prioritized denying him the three point shot. He didn't force anything which was smart but he had almost no effect on the game. I would be interested to see the +/- on Polley. I suspect it was very good.
 
Palatine said:
Polley had early foul trouble and Hartford prioritized denying him the three point shot. He didn't force anything which was smart but he had almost no effect on the game. I would be interested to see the +/- on Polley. I suspect it was very good.
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He was +11 in 15 minutes, 3rd highest on the team
 
navery12 said:
He was +11 in 15 minutes, 3rd highest on the team
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Polley always has a positive effect on the team just by being out there on the court. Yet everybody wants to replace him with unproven guys constantly. It's ridiculous.

Pair Ty with Bouk, Gaff, AJacks and Whaley. That's the group until Akok comes back. However, Hurley it wont happen because Hurley is too stuck on Cole and Martin.

That's the best lineup because everyone has defined roles and fit well cohesively. In addition everyone of those is unselfish and makes the right reads most times, which helps when you have a guy like Bouk who takes a lot of shots and needs the ball.

Starting Lineup Should be : Gaff, Bouk, AJacks, Polley, and Whaley.

#FeedPolley
#UnleashAJacks
 
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DaveHuskiesFan said:
I’m just not sure how you can watch the last two games and call Cole a selfish player
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Agreed...he leads the team in assists after two games and has made 9-20 shots. That doesn’t look selfish to me.
 
Palatine said:
Polley had early foul trouble and Hartford prioritized denying him the three point shot. He didn't force anything which was smart but he had almost no effect on the game. I would be interested to see the +/- on Polley. I suspect it was very good.
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I posted this in another thread but people complaining about polley not taking shots need to rewatch the game there were a ton of times where he was wide open and no one passed to him
 
Huskymagic said:
Polley always has a positive effect on the team just by being out there on the court. Yet everybody wants to replace him with unproven guys constantly. It's ridiculous.

Pair Ty with Bouk, Gaff, AJacks and Whaley. That's the group until Akok comes back. However, Hurley it wont happen because Hurley is too stuck on Cole and Martin.

That's the best lineup because everyone has defined roles and fit well cohesively. In addition everyone of those is unselfish and makes the right reads most times, which helps when you have a guy like Bouk who takes a lot of shots and needs the ball.

Starting Lineup Should be : Gaff, Bouk, AJacks, Polley, and Whaley.

#FeedPolley
#UnleashAJacks
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We feed Polley this team isn’t going anywhere. Need to run thru your best players.
 
Sphinx said:
Do me a favor. When you get a chance, watch the replay from the 14:00 minute mark of the second half to the 12:30 minute mark or so. This is when UConn, having seen their lead cut from 19 to 3, and looking like scared rabbits, suddenly opened the lead back up to 10. Tell me what player was personally responsible for every single point scored in that run. And then let's talk about the eye test again.
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Gaff was responsible for the turnaround in the 2nd half. Gaff leading the team with Whaley finished the game. Cole's impact was negligible. He is a good shooter, but not a real point guard.

Cole isn't anywhere near our 2nd best player, but he can do some good things as a role player.

In addition, Polley was out there when a majority of good things were happening for us in the 2nd half. That is not a coincidence.
 
Huskymagic said:
Gaff was responsible for the turnaround in the 2nd half. Gaff leading the team with Whaley finished the game. Cole's impact was negligible. He is a good shooter, but not a real point guard.

Cole isn't anywhere near our 2nd best player, but he can do some good things as a role player.

In addition, Polley was out there when a majority of good things were happening for us in the 2nd half. That is not a coincidence.
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Hurley disagrees with you, he says Cole is the quarterback and the offense suffers when he is out of there like he was last night with foul trouble. He says Cole and Martin have to get 30 to 30+ minutes going forward.
 
navery12 said:
He was +11 in 15 minutes, 3rd highest on the team
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I think that their defensive key was that we can't stop Bouk whatever we do, but we can deny Polley spot up 3s so let's do that. That let to Polley standing on the perimeter not getting opportunities, but holes elsewhere in Hartford's D. When Polley had to sit due to foul trouble, their zone played honest and we had more trouble scoring.

Polley did nothing right or wrong last night, but by not forcing it and thinking he's the star, we were better with him on the court.
 
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businesslawyer said:
I think that their defensive key was that we can't stop Bouk whatever we do, but we can deny Polley spot up 3s so let's do that. That let to Polley standing on the perimeter not getting opportunities, but holes elsewhere in Hartford's D. When Polley had to sit due to foul trouble, their zone played honest and we had more trouble scoring.

Polley did nothing right or wrong last night, but by not forcing it and thinking he's the star, we were better with him on the court.
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Yeah I thought he was fine last night. His game is what I wish Adams would have done once he realized he didn't have it
 
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