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Hardest record to break?

How about Edwin Moses? Over a decade period won 122 straight 400 m hurdles, 105 consecutive finals. Also set the world record 4 times. If duration of a streak is the most impressive feat, that is way beyond any of the winning streaks for college teams that have been mentioned. 10 years of doing nothing but winning races, absolutely amazing.
 
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The team won 252 matches in a row, the longest winning streak in college sports history—so famous it was known simply as “The Streak.” National media outlets followed the story, and the world soon came to know Head Men's Squash Coach Paul Assaiante as the winningest college coach ever.
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lne001 said:
Cy Young 749 complete games
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Hack Wilson. 190 RBI’s

Jimmie Foxx
Best season ever 1932.
364 batting ave, 58 homers, and 169 RBI’s, he actually hit 60 that year tieing Ruth, but they were erased from his record because he hit them in games that were rained out.
 
I’m gobsmacked that most people believe the 111 is more difficult! I have to disagree completely! Gretzky’s record is far more likely to stand the test of time. For one thing, (putting aside the objective lead he has over his nearest challengers) his record is based on his individual performances while the other is a team record. This means that the team could conceivably suffer a catastrophic injury , and still achieve the exact same result, whereas Gretzky’s record would diminish with each game he missed. Both are magnificent examples of greatness but I have to go with Gretzky’s record here.
If you are looking for unbreakable records, it is hard to beat Cy Young’s 511 wins and 749 complete games. These are rendered even more unbreakable due to modern changes in baseball that have made it less and less likely that a pitcher will want or be allowed to finish out a game.
Personally, the UConn record I am most in awe of, is the no consecutive losses since 1993! (And counting) There’s glory for you! (And another possibly “unbreakable” record)
 
I think the hardest record to break is one that requires a substantial amount of time--14 straight Final Fours, 2,130 consecutive games, etc. That Final Four streak involved dozens of players. Even brilliant players like Maya and Stewie could contribute only 4 out of the 14 years. Though something like 111 consecutive wins seems highly improbable, a totally stacked roster with the right coach could do it--we almost added EDD to Maya and Tina. That was TonyC's infamous 195-0. He wasn't far off!

There are many records that seem unbreakable. Wilt's 1961 season averages of 50 ppg and 25 rpg seem untouchable.
 
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Cuango said:
I’m gobsmacked that most people believe the 111 is more difficult! I have to disagree completely! Gretzky’s record is far more likely to stand the test of time. For one thing, (putting aside the objective lead he has over his nearest challengers) his record is based on his individual performances while the other is a team record. This means that the team could conceivably suffer a catastrophic injury , and still achieve the exact same result, whereas Gretzky’s record would diminish with each game he missed. Both are magnificent examples of greatness but I have to go with Gretzky’s record here.
If you are looking for unbreakable records, it is hard to beat Cy Young’s 511 wins and 749 complete games. These are rendered even more unbreakable due to modern changes in baseball that have made it less and less likely that a pitcher will want or be allowed to finish out a game.
Personally, the UConn record I am most in awe of, is the no consecutive losses since 1993! (And counting) There’s glory for you! (And another possibly “unbreakable” record)
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We can get into to trouble and easily become disillusioned if we begin to try and rank the importance or difficulty of records across the landscape of different sports. I only compare UConn’s 111-game win streak with and among other WCBB teams.
 
Cuango said:
I’m gobsmacked that most people believe the 111 is more difficult! I have to disagree completely! Gretzky’s record is far more likely to stand the test of time. For one thing, (putting aside the objective lead he has over his nearest challengers) his record is based on his individual performances while the other is a team record. This means that the team could conceivably suffer a catastrophic injury , and still achieve the exact same result, whereas Gretzky’s record would diminish with each game he missed. Both are magnificent examples of greatness but I have to go with Gretzky’s record here.
If you are looking for unbreakable records, it is hard to beat Cy Young’s 511 wins and 749 complete games. These are rendered even more unbreakable due to modern changes in baseball that have made it less and less likely that a pitcher will want or be allowed to finish out a game.
Personally, the UConn record I am most in awe of, is the no consecutive losses since 1993! (And counting) There’s glory for you! (And another possibly “unbreakable” record)
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I'm happy to show my ignorance (again). I don't follow hockey. Aren't assists in hockey counted as "points"? If so, how many of the Great One's points were assists as opposed to goals? I don't mean to throw any shade on Getzky. I'm just pointing out that maybe his record wasn't completely "individual". Was it Nika who said with an assist 2 people are happy?
 
MilfordHusky said:
I think the hardest record to break is one that requires a substantial amount of time--14 straight Final Fours, 2,130 consecutive games, etc. That Final Four streak involved dozens of players. Even brilliant players like Maya and Stewie could contribute only 4 out of the 14 years. Though something like 111 consecutive wins seems highly improbable, a totally stacked roster with the right coach could do it--we almost added EDD to Maya and Tina. That was TonyC's infamous 195-0. He wasn't far off!

There are many records that seem unbreakable. Wilt's 1961 season averages of 50 ppg and 25 rpg seem untouchable.
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It is an interesting question time vs consistency - 14 years of excellence vs 111 games of perfection. There is no easy answer - the closest anyone else has come to 14 years is 5 years, the closest any NCAA D1 women's program other than Uconn has come to 111 is 46 (TN in the late 90s.) LaTech did 54 in the AIAW years.

And it isn't as if there have not been juggernaut teams before - TN with the meeks and with Parker, Baylor with Griner, ND, and currently SC (sitting on a 6 game winning streak - they need 2 undefeated seasons + an opening winning streak in year 3 to reach just second place at 90 wins.)
 
UcMiami said:
It is an interesting question time vs consistency - 14 years of excellence vs 111 games of perfection. There is no easy answer - the closest anyone else has come to 14 years is 5 years, the closest any NCAA D1 women's program other than Uconn has come to 111 is 46 (TN in the late 90s.) LaTech did 54 in the AIAW years.

And it isn't as if there have not been juggernaut teams before - TN with the meeks and with Parker, Baylor with Griner, ND, and currently SC (sitting on a 6 game winning streak - they need 2 undefeated seasons + an opening winning streak in year 3 to reach just second place at 90 wins.)
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A reminder to the Boneyarders ... the only teams to have consecutive undefeated seasons were led by Maya Moore and Tina Charles. Not even the great Taurasi or Stewart could manage that.
 
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MilfordHusky said:
I think the hardest record to break is one that requires a substantial amount of time--14 straight Final Fours, 2,130 consecutive games, etc. That Final Four streak involved dozens of players. Even brilliant players like Maya and Stewie could contribute only 4 out of the 14 years. Though something like 111 consecutive wins seems highly improbable, a totally stacked roster with the right coach could do it--we almost added EDD to Maya and Tina. That was TonyC's infamous 195-0. He wasn't far off!
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Yea, I still blame TonyC for EDD ending up at Delaware.
 
If some research was done with respect to records that are currently more than two decades old and still going strong, there are probably 25-40 records that one could argue will NEVER be broken. Many of them have been mentioned here. There is NO WAY a single record can be identified or proclaimed as "the one record" that will never be broken.

If someone wants to start a thread about records, call it "Records that won't be broken in our lifetimes." That thread will get a lot of action. ;) EVERYBODY has a favorite record they want to nominate. I've got 3.

Example......Johnny Vander Meer's record of throwing two no-hitters on consecutive starts in 1938 will never be broken. It has stood for 84 years and will stand for another 84 years. in order to break the record, a pitcher would have to throw 3 consecutive no-hitters back-to-back-to back. That's not going to happen in today's era. Pitchers rarely pitch a complete game nowadays.
 
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IMHO.
Joe DiMaggio’s 56 game hitting streak.
Starters now go maybe 5 innings.
4/5 pitchers work the final 4 innings.
No more small ball- a long ball game.
With power pitchers stacking “K’s”.
I don’t think it will ever happen.
 
How about Babe Didrikson Zaharias?

Representing her company in the 1932 AAU Championships, she competed in eight out of ten events, winning five outright, and tying for first in a sixth. Didrikson's performances were enough to win the team championship, despite her being the sole member of her team.

Didrikson set four world records, winning two gold medals and one silver medal for track and field in the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics.[9][10] In the 80-meter hurdles, she equaled the world record of 11.8 seconds in her opening heat. In the final, she broke her record with an 11.7 clocking, taking gold. In the javelin, she also won gold with an Olympic record throw of 43.69 meters. In the high jump, she took silver with a world record-tying leap of 1.657 metres (5.44 ft). Fellow American Jean Shiley also jumped 1.657 metres, and the pair tied in a jump-off when the bar was raised to 1.67 metres (5.5 ft). Shiley was awarded the gold after Didrikson was ruled to have used an improper technique.[1]

Didrikson is the only track and field athlete, male or female, to win individual Olympic medals in separate running, throwing and jumping events.
 
Carnac said:
If some research was done with respect to records that are currently more than two decades old and still going strong, there are probably 25-40 records that one could argue will NEVER be broken. Many of them have been mentioned here. There is NO WAY a single record can be identified or proclaimed as "the one record" that will never be broken.

If someone wants to start a thread about records, call it "Records that won't be broken in our lifetimes." That thread will get a lot of action. ;) EVERYBODY has a favorite record they want to nominate. I've got 3.

Example......Johnny Vander Meer's record of throwing two no-hitters on consecutive starts in 1938 will never be broken. It has stood for 84 years and will stand for another 84 years. in order to break the record, a pitcher would have to throw 3 consecutive no-hitters back-to-back-to back. That's not going to happen in today's era. Pitchers rarely pitch a complete game nowadays.
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One more thought.........................Think for a brief moment how many not good, but "great" pitchers in the last 80 years that played MLB that NEVER threw a no hitter. UConn's 111 game win streak is safe. UConn's current record of not losing 2 consecutive games since 1993 is also safe. ;)

If there was a hallowed "Pantheon" Hall of World Wide Athletic Records, these 3 and many others would be displayed there. There is a line in the sand of greatness most players never cross. How many UConn women basketball players that have played for the program since its inception NEVER had a 30 point game? My guess is over 90% of them.
 
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Tom Brady’s 7 Super Bowl Rings- possible.
Tom Brady’s 5 Super Bowl MVP’s- never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever be duplicated
UNLESS HE WINS ANOTHER ONE!
 
1961-62
Wilt (no last name needed)
48.5 minutes per game (games were only 48 minutes long)

Wilt sat for eight minutes that entire season. No days off for a hammy twinge or a "bad" shell fish (wink, wink) meal. No line changes or time in the penalty box. No half innings in the dugout or 7th inning stretches. No half games on offense (or defense), "special teams" tom foolery, or "Huddle ups!".

Just "Chamberlain!"
"Yeah, Coach?"
"You're in."
until...
"Somebody get Wilt, the game's over."
 
Skeets said:
I'm happy to show my ignorance (again). I don't follow hockey. Aren't assists in hockey counted as "points"? If so, how many of the Great One's points were assists as opposed to goals? I don't mean to throw any shade on Getzky. I'm just pointing out that maybe his record wasn't completely "individual". Was it Nika who said with an assist 2 people are happy?
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So, when Bird, Magic, Stockton, Bird,Ionescue, Nash, Kidd make/made some incredible pass they were’t really responsible for the assist?
 
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Cuango said:
So, when Bird, Magic, Stockton, Bird,Ionescue, Nash, Kidd make/made some incredible pass they were’t really responsible for the assist?
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Also, I believe 2 assists may be awarded preceding a hockey goal.
 
I like the UConn women's unbeaten streak.
I like UCLA's 7 straight men's NCAA basketball titles, and 9 in 10 years (interrupted only by beloved Texas Western in 1966).
I like Johnny Vander Meer's consecutive no-hitters in 1938.
But here's one for the ages -- longest complete game by a starting pitcher. It's actually a tie between the two pitchers who faced each other in the longest major league game in history. May 1, 1920, the Brooklyn Robins were in Boston to play the Braves, and the game was called for darkness after 26 innings, with the score tied, 1-1. Brooklyn's Leon Cadore (who gave up 15 hits) and Boston's Joe Oeschger (9) each went the distance!
 
OldSchooler said:
I like the UConn women's unbeaten streak.
I like UCLA's 7 straight men's NCAA basketball titles, and 9 in 10 years (interrupted only by beloved Texas Western in 1966).
I like Johnny Vander Meer's consecutive no-hitters in 1938.
But here's one for the ages -- longest complete game by a starting pitcher. It's actually a tie between the two pitchers who faced each other in the longest major league game in history. May 1, 1920, the Brooklyn Robins were in Boston to play the Braves, and the game was called for darkness after 26 innings, with the score tied, 1-1. Brooklyn's Leon Cadore (who gave up 15 hits) and Boston's Joe Oeschger (9) each went the distance!
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Reminds me of Harvey Haddix' twelve innings of perfection before losing in the 13th. Thirty-six consecutive batters retired.
 
Cuango said:
So, when Bird, Magic, Stockton, Bird,Ionescue, Nash, Kidd make/made some incredible pass they were’t really responsible for the assist?
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Huh? I said nothing of the sort. What did I say that gave you that impression?
 
I don't see the 111 game winning streak ever being broken or even 4 straight NCs. The FF record is still going but even if it ended next year, 14 in a row won't be replicated.
 
So, back to NCAA D1 winning streaks:
Uconn 111 (2014-17) (2 NCs)
Uconn 90 (2008-11) (2 NCs)
Uconn 70 (2001-03) (1 NC)
Uconn 47 (2013-14) (2 NCs)
TN 46 (1996-98) (2 NCs)
Baylor 42 (2011-13) (1 NC)
ND 37 (2013-14)
Uconn 36 (2017-18) , Purdue (1998-00) (1 NC), Baylor (2019-20)
Uconn 35 (1994-95) (1 NC)
Uconn 33 (1996-97) Old Dominion (1996-97)

Just an amazing look at Uconn consistency no team has gotten out of the 40s in the NCAAs 4 decades. And even within the 40s Uconn still holds the record. (LaTech in the AIAW era with a 54 game win streak is the only other D1 team to break the 50 win barrier and Uconn topped that 3 times.) TN went 39-0 after winning a NC the previous year and topped out at 46 wins, Baylor went 40-0 and topped out at 42 wins with Griner and Sims.
 
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