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Happy New Year! Houston Hired Dana Holgerson

If he couldn't win big at WVA, what makes them think he'll win big in Houston?
 
Maybe he wants to go 10-2 in the aac instead of 8-4 in the big 12 with the only likely loss coming to UCF and maybe a bowl game? Maybe even 11-1 seasons...Dunno. I think we might look back on this day as the day Houston (along with UCF (who may have already) (started to) separate(d) themselves from the pack...hope not.
 
Scrutiner said:
If he couldn't win big at WVA, what makes them think he'll win big in Houston?
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$20 million big! Aside from grande dinero, just maybe prior Texas experience, better regional recruiting potential, etc
 
Why would anyone want to go from a P5 head coach to a G5 head coach? Big 12 is a P5 and the AAC isn't...I wouldn't.
 
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HuskyDogArt said:
Why would anyone want to go from a P5 head coach to a G5 head coach? Big 12 is a P5 and the AAC isn't...I wouldn't.
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A very healthy raise and a restart to the getting fired clock?

No Oklahoma and Texas to contend against are added bonuses. If the playoff expands to guarantee the top G5 school a spot in it, you'll see more moves like this.
 
I'll be curious if Houston will be ok with 10-2 seasons. Will they be ok with going 12-0 and not making the CFB playoffs? I feel like they have crazy, unrealistic expectations at that school. They need to realize they are still a G5 school and just looking at UCF, you're best hope is a NY6 bowl. While that is a good result, it seems like Houston, and their big donor, expect more.
 
UCFBfan said:
I'll be curious if Houston will be ok with 10-2 seasons. Will they be ok with going 12-0 and not making the CFB playoffs? I feel like they have crazy, unrealistic expectations at that school. They need to realize they are still a G5 school and just looking at UCF, you're best hope is a NY6 bowl. While that is a good result, it seems like Houston, and their big donor, expect more.
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Well the UH President said @ Applewhite’s introductory presser that they fire coaches for 8 wins - let’s see if she ups the ante @ Holgo’s presser.
 
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Smart money move for Dana. Looks good for the Conference! Power 6! He’s got Will Grier gone and next season not looking nearly as good. He’d probably be on the hot seat after next year...leave while you’re still worth some cash! Have a few good seasons in Houston, then leave once again for more cash and a P5 job. If he failed at WVU he might be done with his head coaching career!
 
StunningSteve said:
Because he took the red pill... and sees that he has a more direct path to playing on New Years in Houston, where they won a Peach Bowl 2 years ago.

That, and money makes the Propaganda5 seem a bit transparent
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Don’t celebrate too hard tonight.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
$20 million big! Aside from grande dinero, just maybe prior Texas experience, better regional recruiting potential, etc
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Very tough to recruit in Morgantown while being surrounded by the more glamourous ACC, B1G, and SEC. They need a coach who can sell his vision and playing style like Rich Rod did, despite all the negatives. Somewhat similar to what UConn faces in the sense that they are quite a distance from the rest of their conference members, and get out recruited by VTech, Kentucky, Ohio State, and Tennessee almost every year.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Very tough to recruit in Morgantown while being surrounded by the more glamourous ACC, B1G, and SEC. They need a coach who can sell his vision and playing style like Rich Rod did, despite all the negatives. Somewhat similar to what UConn faces in the sense that they are quite a distance from the rest of their conference members, and get out recruited by VTech, Kentucky, Ohio State, and Tennessee almost every year.
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Really, it’s tough to recruit to WVU? Seems like they do just fine. I do agree it that their time in the B12 has reduced their ability to recruit the northeast and mid atlantic, but they still get a lot of dudes.
 
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Its not really about status when coaches consider G5 vs P5. Its simply economics. If a G5 Team like Houston is willing to pay at a P5 Level then they will attract P5 Level Coaches. The fact that The Houston Metro Area is a top 3 talent producer makes it all the more an attractive option for coaches. I suspect there will be more teams that are seeing the success that UCF is having who will find a way to finance a big name coach of their own.
 
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Ldandy said:
Its not really about status when coaches consider G5 vs P5. Its simply economics. If a G5 Team like Houston is willing to pay at a P5 Level then they will attract P5 Level Coaches. The fact that The Houston Metro Area is a top 3 talent producer makes it all the more an attractive option for coaches. I suspect there will be more teams that are seeing the success that UCF is having and will find a way to finance a big name coach of their own.
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Add in a few years old on-campus stadium and year old indoor practice facility and it’s easy to see the jump clearer.
 
Exit 4 said:
Really, it’s tough to recruit to WVU? Seems like they do just fine. I do agree it that their time in the B12 has reduced their ability to recruit the northeast and mid atlantic, but they still get a lot of dudes.
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You are wrong, and Happy New Year to you too. Relatively speaking they get out recruited by the surrounding P5 schools almost every year. They'll get one occasional 4 star and a handful of three stars and that's it. They had one decent year in the Big 12 going 10-3 a couple years ago, everything else has been 500 ball or worse since the Rich Rod and Bill Stewart Big East years ended.
 
noeynox said:
A very healthy raise and a restart to the getting fired clock?

No Oklahoma and Texas to contend against are added bonuses. If the playoff expands to guarantee the top G5 school a spot in it, you'll see more moves like this.
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Which is why it won't happen.
 
huskyrob1 said:
You are wrong, and Happy New Year to you too. Relatively speaking they get out recruited by the surrounding P5 schools almost every year. They'll get one occasional 4 star and a handful of three stars and that's it. They had one decent year in the Big 12 going 10-3 a couple years ago, everything else has been 500 ball or worse since the Rich Rod and Bill Stewart Big East years ended.
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No need to be a d/ck.

One losing season overall since joining the B12 in 2012. Three of seven seasons with losing conf records. Been ranked in six of seven seasons. Lousy in bowl games, going 2 and 5 since joining the B12.

On its face, there was no way WVU could continue to be an alpha dog when trading the big east for schools like Texas and Oklahoma and occasionally competive programs like TT, Iowa St and OSU. And when you stop consistently being a 2 loss team, not surprisingly your recruiting can tail off. WVU could always crush it in the BE selling a near guarantee to win 10 games.

I haven’t taken the time to look at in great depth, but yeah - it does seem their recruiting has stepped back. Still get a lot of dudes though.

Next coach for WV is a bigger deal for them than I realized.


West Virginia Mountaineers Football Record By Year | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
 
Have to say these Houston threads have been hilarious.

First they were a disaster when they were doing the right thing.

Now they are heroes for making a hire that is going to go so sideways it’s going to be LOL funny.

I’m not going to make light of the guys issues but you have to be completely nuts to sign up for someone with problems so bad he got run out of West Virginia.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
One more team where RE is going to have to pull his head out of his ass and realize you aren't beating Houton 13-10.
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Very much looking forward to punting on 4th and inches from Houston's 39 yard line...then giving up a 2-play, 31 second touchdown drive. Then doing the exact same thing in the following quarter until we're losing by 50.
 
Exit 4 said:
No need to be a d/ck.

One losing season overall since joining the B12 in 2012. Three of seven seasons with losing conf records. Been ranked in six of seven seasons. Lousy in bowl games, going 2 and 5 since joining the B12.

On its face, there was no way WVU could continue to be an alpha dog when trading the big east for schools like Texas and Oklahoma and occasionally competive programs like TT, Iowa St and OSU. And when you stop consistently being a 2 loss team, not surprisingly your recruiting can tail off. WVU could always crush it in the BE selling a near guarantee to win 10 games.

I haven’t taken the time to look at in great depth, but yeah - it does seem their recruiting has stepped back. Still get a lot of dudes though.

Next coach for WV is a bigger deal for them than I realized.


West Virginia Mountaineers Football Record By Year | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
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It's incredibly difficult now to sell recruits and their families on WV football when you tell them they will be playing almost all their away games down in Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas. Rich Rod and Stewart only had to say yeah we play away games near your parents in Connecticut, Pennsylvania, upstate NY, and New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Florida.
 
huskyrob1 said:
It's incredibly difficult now to sell recruits and their families on WV football when you tell them they will be playing almost all their away games down in Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas. Rich Rod and Stewart only had to say yeah we play away games near your parents in Connecticut, Pennsylvania, upstate NY, and New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Florida.
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Other than their Big XII teams have been better than many of their Big East teams... sure.

It’s not easy to win a RR conference that has Texas, Oklahoma, TCU, Oklahoma State in it - if West Virginia doesn’t get their expectations in line it’s going to be a revolving door that slowly bleeds them to death.

Having said that not extending Dana makes sense to me. (found out dana’s initials correct to Dan Hurley).
 
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The AAC is looking more and more like the New Big East every year personality wise.

Edsall at his best had trouble matching up with the high octane offense teams. Yikes. This doesn’t bode well for us. We need the AAC to be as crappy as possible.
 
Houston fans are OBNOXIOUS online insisting that this proves that UH is a better job/program than WVU. Absolute joke lol
 
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