Hana Muhl

[Puppy Love]

Former wife hailed from Wisconsin and their cheese was excellent…but whenever the in-laws departed they always took a box of Vermont cheddar and a couple gallons of pure Vermont maple syrup. The explanation of Green Mountain cheese superiority was that Vermont dairy cows were better cuz they were more healthy from climbing around on all those beautiful hillsides. Dunno…but I swear a group of us once thought we saw a family of Holsteins renting skis at Bromley. Might be mistaken.

Stopped at Cabot’s today on our way back from Isle La Motte for a few favorites.

 

[Going4Natty]

Is the "immediate eligibility" rule the same for a decommiting player as for a "first-time transfer" player?

Hanna has not signed a NLI so she is just a typical international first time recruit.

 

[meyers7]

I'll have to start following Ball State: mastcot, Conference, and..
when GENO will schedule the duel !!! Maybe a preseason
scrimmage in Storrs?? Image a Muhl on on Muhl!!!!
that's worth the price of admission ( or a live stream! ).
Go Croatians! Z

Unfortunately, don't believe you can do D1 preseason scrimmage games. (maybe behind closed doors - with practice jerseys)

 

[Geew1992]

Hanna has not signed a NLI so she is just a typical international first time recruit.

Pretty sure she did and had to be released. She is a 2022 recruit.

 

[Centerstream]

Hanna has not signed a NLI so she is just a typical international first time recruit.

Which doesn't answer my question but thanks anyway.

 

[Geew1992]

Which doesn't answer my question but thanks anyway.

Although I am not 100% sure, I don't think it's considered a transfer. So, she would be immediately eligible and and to transfer with the one time exception.

 

[sun]

Is the "immediate eligibility" rule the same for a decommiting player as for a "first-time transfer" player?

A transfer is a transfer and to decommit is to decommit.
They are different.
After an NLI contract for an athletic scholarship /financial aid has been signed, the school must release the player or else the player risks needing to sit out a year and possibly losing a year of eligibility.

IMO one of the differences between the two is whether the student started to attend school or received any of the contractual benefits yet.
Also, signing an NLI stops the recruiting process because the student promises to stop communication with other colleges.

"If you change your mind after you sign and want to “decommit” to the college, you risk losing one year of eligibility at your new school, and must sit a year of residence and not compete."

The New Path to Commitment - College Sports without the National Letter of Intent (NLI) - Honest Game

A breakdown of the updated college sports commitment process - and how to stay eligible without the National Letter of Intent.

honestgame.com

 

[Centerstream]

A transfer is a transfer and to decommit is to decommit.
They are different.
After an NLI contract for an athletic scholarship /financial aid has been signed, the school must release the player or else the player risks needing to sit out a year and possibly losing a year of eligibility.

IMO one of the differences between the two is whether the student started to attend school or received any of the contractual benefits yet.
Also, signing an NLI stops the recruiting process because the student promises to stop communication with other colleges.

"If you change your mind after you sign and want to “decommit” to the college, you risk losing one year of eligibility at your new school, and must sit a year of residence and not compete."

The New Path to Commitment - College Sports without the National Letter of Intent (NLI) - Honest Game

A breakdown of the updated college sports commitment process - and how to stay eligible without the National Letter of Intent.

honestgame.com

I know the difference between a transfer and a commitment. I only mentioned "transfer" because of my use of "immediate eligibility". I was under the impression that once a player commits (signed NLI), if the player subsequently decommits, that at one time, they would have to sit out one season...if their original school didn't release them from their NLI. This could be misinformation (sitting out a year) but it is something I read here on the BY a long, long time ago, pre portal immediate eligibility changes. Thus my original question.

 

[Beemer]

Congratulations Hana and good luck!

 

[sun]

Hanna has not signed a NLI so she is just a typical international first time recruit.

IDK know for certain if she actually signed a NLI (National Letter of Intent) or not, but the University of Illinois
Urbana-Champaign is a NLI participating school which relies on that document to establish a commitment between a recruited athlete and the school.

University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign

NCAA Directory - Directory - Organization Detail

web3.ncaa.org

From this list of all NLI member schools.

NCAA Directory - Directory - Member Listing

web3.ncaa.org

 

[#12in21]

Hoping these four can all spend some time together stateside next season. The Muhl parents can catch a few games watching their girls play for there respective squads. I don't recall hearing of them making it over for any of Nika's games the last two season's although Darko (their dad) regularly posts on twitter about both Nika and Hana. Both parents were bball players who left the sport due to injuries (as I understand it). Nika would probably love to have her parents at a game. Maybe senior year Geno can schedule a head to head matchup for the sisters!

 

[Bald Husky]

Good looking family, hope everything works out for Hana. Nika already has a ton of supporters.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Darko is a coach on one of the better teams and has coached Nika and Hana.

 

[#12in21]

From Ball State Athletics. Hope she has a great career there (and hopefully gets to play her big sister in a future college matchup)

Women’s Basketball Welcomes Hana Muhl to Its 2022 Roster - Ball State University Athletics

 

[stamfordhusky]

Pretty sure she did and had to be released. She is a 2022 recruit.

You are correct. She signed a NLI back in November with Illinois. For her to be able to play this year, she would need a waiver from Illinois, which I imagine she got.

 

[stamfordhusky]

Although I am not 100% sure, I don't think it's considered a transfer. So, she would be immediately eligible and and to transfer with the one time exception.

It's not a transfer, but she would only be immediately eligible with a waiver from Illinois.

 

[stamfordhusky]

Unfortunately, don't believe you can do D1 preseason scrimmage games. (maybe behind closed doors - with practice jerseys)

You can do up to two D1 preseason scrimmages. Must be behind closed doors, but no need for practice jerseys. Players can wear regular uniforms. It can be treated as a regular game or the coaches can agree to do different situational things, or both. Unfortunately no streaming allowed and no media.

 

[Going4Natty]

Which doesn't answer my question but thanks anyway.

Sorry, but I don't understand your question. Your statement "once a player commits (signed NLI), if the player subsequently decommits" is a bit strange. Once a player signs a NLI, and the NLI is accepted by the school, they are not longer a commit they have transitioned in their classification to a signed player. A signed and accepted player cannot decommit. A player can only decommit before the signed NLI is accepted. They may petition the school to be released from their NLI but at that point it is up to the school.

 

[Centerstream]

Sorry, but I don't understand your question. Your statement "once a player commits (signed NLI), if the player subsequently decommits" is a bit strange. Once a player signs a NLI, and the NLI is accepted by the school, they are not longer a commit they have transitioned in their classification to a signed player. A signed and accepted player cannot decommit. A player can only decommit before the signed NLI is accepted. They may petition the school to be released from their NLI but at that point it is up to the school.

I beg to differ...many announcements in April about players decommitting from the schools that were given a signed NLI by them.

Example is the OP of this thread. Of course I am assuming that Hana signed a NLI and Illinois accepted it.

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[Going4Natty]

I beg to differ...many announcements in April about players decommitting from the schools that were given a signed NLI by them.

Example is the OP of this thread. Of course I am assuming that Hana signed a NLI and Illinois accepted it.

You are correct that Hanna signed with Illinois


So in November 2021 she signed a contract with Illinois to play basketball in 2022-23. She was no longer a commit but a signed player. She had to be let out of her contract by the University in order to play somewhere else. If she is released and has never played, then she again becomes a recruit. Now she is committed, but not signed at Ball State.

https://twitter.com/HanaMuhl/status/1518489273976168448?s=20&t=b64hb7A40mysllufBsI6Zg

 

[stamfordhusky]

I beg to differ...many announcements in April about players decommitting from the schools that were given a signed NLI by them.

Example is the OP of this thread. Of course I am assuming that Hana signed a NLI and Illinois accepted it.

“Decommitting”is not a term officially used by the National Letter of Intent organization or the NCAA in this context - but it is widely used by athletes, fans, and the media.

 

[Centerstream]

“Decommitting”is not a term officially used by the National Letter of Intent organization or the NCAA in this context - but it is widely used by athletes, fans, and the media.

Must be a few lawyers here. I was under the impression that once a player commits (signed NLI), if the player subsequently decommits, that at one time, they would have to sit out one season...if their original school didn't release them from their NLI.
I only wanted to know if this was a true statement.

 

[stamfordhusky]

Must be a few lawyers here. I was under the impression that once a player commits (signed NLI), if the player subsequently decommits, that at one time, they would have to sit out one season...if their original school didn't release them from their NLI.
I only wanted to know if this was a true statement.

I already confirmed that it was a true statement. Just wanted to point out that because a player uses the term in a tweet does not mean it is used accurately.

 

[Zarathustra]

The Ball State women's basketball Web Page has a welcoming note announcing
that Hana Muhl is a future Cardinal to be. I think the Ball State Athletic Department
has appropriately " sealed the deal ". The announcement gives a good summary
of Hana's time with the Croatian National Teams , U 14, U16, U18 as well as her
awards and as a member of the U 17 Team ( that was confusing to me, but that is how I
read it.) She was the MVP for one of her many international competitions. There was
also from very nice comments from the Ball State Head Coach. See the BALL STATE
web page for exact details. Z

 

[eebmg]

Now this thread makes sense. NIL .neq. NLI.