Great Danes 61, BCU Beagles 57

[HooperScooper]

Yup.

The purpose of the athletic department is to (hopefully) connect your school's name with winning and excellence. It's a marketing tool, and a potentially powerful one.

The northeast P5 schools are happy to just be in the club, but looking at it in terms of prestige earned for the investment, it's not so clear cut.

Yeah that's my perspective also. As a fan all I care about is the teams I follow winning a lot. I don't care how much money the athletic deaprtment makes. But if making more money helps the winning, or if not making enough money impedes the ability of those teams from winning more, then yeah it would be more beneficial to be P5. In terms of the men's basketball team I think UConn can still win without being P5. We're in the middle of knowing if it's possible. Football is another story though.

 

[HJG1984]

Can we keep it simple? BC can’t lose enough. Basketball and football programs in the toilet
Pittsburgh basketball lost to Monmouth and UMBC.

 

[Durks07]

Be careful of schadenfreude.

No.

 

[History Geek]

I let go of any resentment I had for BC a long time ago...

Not me. Never.

 

[Palatine]

Be careful of schadenfreude.

I'm more afraid of farfegnugen.

 

[Sky ball]

Pitt & Cuse do have a major football tradition so don't really blame them. Cuse had Jim Brown, Ernie Davis, Floyd Little. Pitt had Marino and Dorsett, Ditka, Revis, Fitzgerald..we're talking some of the greatest players in football history so Football drives the ship for them just like Basketball should drive UConn ship.

BC had a short QB once too.

 

[ThabeetDown]

The best part about BCU in the ACC is even despite their ACC money, they have nothing to show for it. Alumni Stadium is a dump. The facilities for the athletes are average at best. They hire a basketball coach from the CAA -- really not stretching that budget despite the ACC funds. All of that to go 2-6 in the ACC in football and squeeze into a bowl game in Annapolis vs East Carolina. So have to wonder where all that money is going, or more likely which school executives are lining their pockets at the expense of the student-athletes and the "super" fans. Great success all around!

 

[Waquoit]

There will be more excitement in the XL on Saturday alone then there has been in BCU's entire program over last decade.

 

[Kolumbo]

Things could have been a lot different. Imagine if you will, the Big East programs got together and figured out it wasn't going to work long term. Miami, UCONN, Syracuse, Pitt, Va Tech, WVU, Rutgers, Cincy, L-Ville could have split off and possibly merged with the ACC in one fell swoop. That would have kept the Big East flavor and Northeast interest much higher than the way it dissolved.

 

[cohenzone]

You are right. BCU athletics are a smashing success in the ACC.

He’s not wrong. Obviously the BE is a great hoops move, but much of the rivalry allure of the OBE is totally gone. And then there is football. From a pure competition point of view, football would get a shot in the arm from a move into the ACC. If being an Indy makes us better off than being in a decent conference is unknowable I doubt it. Obviously Cuse and BC are wallowing competitively in hoops. Would we have the same fate? Who knows.

 

[The Viking]

I wouldn’t say MUCH, I would say “some”.
There are still plenty of old regional rivals in the league. I never considered Seton Hall a big rival but they will likely become one over time because they are a good basketball program. Better than Cuse and Pitt right now.

The Big East is off to a great start. Enjoy the conference play. Meanwhile the ACC couldn’t be much more embarrassing quite frankly.

This is our first year attending Big East games again in person. It’s about to get intense.

 

[Waquoit]

Obviously Cuse and BC are wallowing competitively in hoops. Would we have the same fate? Who knows.

I say no. If we were added it would have helped all three, like a 3-legged stool. A stronger northern presence together. But they were too busy sticking the shiv to see it. Instead, they they are floating alone, just like a couple of stools.

 

[UC1995]

Yes but they don’t want to leave because the money is so much more from football? Is that right?

I don't get it though... with all this money they should be investing in the athletic program and I see places like SU begging for money to upgrade athletic facilities. Sounds like not as lucrative as it sounds in the ACC for those who left for green pastures.

Take a tour of Syracuse’s antiquated athletics facilities. A plea to donors for $150 million to fix them: ‘We’re behind’

A look at where Syracuse stands in the facilities arms race, and the plea to donors for $150 million to renovate Manley Field House.

www.syracuse.com

 

[Get a Job]

I'm more afraid of farfegnugen.

*Fahrvergnügen, but it's definitely easier to pronounce the way you wrote it. I'll give you that.

 

[willie99]

Yes but they don’t want to leave because the money is so much more from football? Is that right?

Yes, the schools get a ton more money, it's a financial bonanza

But in athletic accomplishments, what us fans care most about, they're a complete and utter bust

I would love for the school to get 15 million or so more dollars every year, but not at the expense of being losers in everything

The Karma Gods are nasty. You don't want to mess with them

 

[willie99]

Can't wait until the NBE becomes the best conference in college basketball. Just like the original

 

[Huskyforlife]

You are right. BCU athletics are a smashing success in the ACC.

I am right. My point wasn't about how good we'd be in the P5, it's just that we'd all take it, and every fan would celebrate like a kid on Christmas. That's why judging them for making the move is illogical.

 

[CL82]

I'm more afraid of farfegnugen.

I thought she transferred to Arizona.

 

[shizzle787]

Can't wait until the NBE becomes the best conference in college basketball. Just like the original

That isn't happening until Gonzaga joins.

 

[The Viking]

I am right. My point wasn't about how good we'd be in the P5, it's just that we'd all take it, and every fan would celebrate like a kid on Christmas. That's why judging them for making the move is illogical.

A lot of it is about the timing of it all. They never should have opened the floodgates to conference realignment and never should have left the Big East.
BC was widely mocked at the time for making the move (outside of Cheatnut Hill that is).
Even without BC I was perfectly fine with what was left and am still pissed ESPN worked to split up the league in round 2 after the league went to open market.
Unfortunately Pitt and Syracuse didn’t have the guts to say no once ESPN started making its move via the ACC.
Regardless the new Big East has acquitted itself quite well and BC and Cuse

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Once ESPN decided that UConn's athletic program had to die, I can see why so many schools bolted. Who wanted to stand up to ESPN in 2011?

 

[Obrero]

BC had a short QB once too.

You mean Matt Ryan?

 

[Travelman6]

Pittsburgh basketball lost to Monmouth

Huskies escaped them by 3 points in OT a few years ago in a year they finished 10-20 and under .500 in their conference....

 

[mauconnfan]

There will be more excitement in the XL on Saturday alone then there has been in BCU's entire program over last decade.

And probably more fans in the stands Saturday than BCUs total for home games over that decade.

 

[SoFla Steve]

I'm more afraid of farfegnugen.

I remember !!